OK, the bubbler pump is wired from the load side of the relay. But got the problem fixed (or more appropriately, it went away). When this problem surfaced initially, I turned off/on the breaker to the control panel on the EasyTouch panel in addition to all the other breakers on that panel. This time I turned off the breaker to the pool equipment at the house service panel before I took the EasyTouch front panel off. When I powered everything up again, I was able to control the bubbler pump thru the app. Not sure why its now working (other than it got "hungup" somehow) and why it took turning off/on the service breaker to get it going again.

I am a little hesitant to change the wiring to the bubbler pump to the line side. I can turn the bubbler pump on/off thru one of the AUX buttons on the EasyTouch front panel and I am thinking that the way they set this up is that they needed to use that relay to do that. I am headed back north in a couple of weeks and don't want to change the wiring now to see if that is the case.

For the first 5 years I have had this pool (the only one I have ever owned), I relied on someone else to clean it and fix it. So I never did have to figure that out for myself. That got old and frustrating and now I am doing that myself (except when I am up north). Your help on this problem has furthered my understanding of my pool and how it works. Thanks Jim R and JamesW!

I would do wire mesh or rebar in the concrete.

Turbolag said:

Yeah, Leslies
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Get your own test kit before adding more chemicals for accurate measurements. Leslie is not reliable and will lead you into the wilderness.

Taylor K-2006C or TFT Test Kits

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sha56 said:

Can you recommend me a pump my wiring is 115 but I will upgrade it if required.

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Show us pictures of your pump and the motor data plate.

sha56 said:

I will get a vsp will do salt water in future.

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All pumps can do salt water. All pools are saltwater pools.

sha56 said:

How bad it sounds does it needs immediate replacement

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If you can stand the sound, a pump can howl from bad bearings for a year or more.

I had a booster pump with bad bearings and a neighbor said she could not walk her dog nearby so I finally replaced it.

amoondoe said:

Also. I just read that it is fast setting as well…did you have any issues with that?

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I did NOT. Everything was dry fitted before I started gluing it together. I maked the pipe with tape for depth and it all went together pretty easily. I only had to use the sledge hammer once or twice...

Yeah, Leslies

ajw22 said:

Yup, replace the PSI gauge. Get a glycerin-filled gauge that goes 0-30 PSDI. You don't need a gauge that goes to 60 PSI.

Center-mounted Pressure Gauge

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Yeah, your pump sounded like it had noisy bearings.

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Can you recommend me a pump my wiring is 115 but I will upgrade it if required. I will get a vsp will do salt water in future. How bad it sounds does it needs immediate replacement

Yes, chlorine tests measure both active and reserve chlorine.

Yup, replace the PSI gauge. Get a glycerin-filled gauge that goes 0-30 PSDI. You don't need a gauge that goes to 60 PSI.


Yeah, your pump sounded like it had noisy bearings.

Jangus said:

Does anyone have a good recommendation for a reliable, color changing LED pool light?

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No color-changing LED lights have demonstrated long-term reliability. Most are too new to the market to judge.

Manufacturers keep coming out with new generations of LED lights, claiming they are improved. Time will tell.

Hello Jim!

The cell is powered via an external Pentair power supply via 240v. The first few cells were powered via the original supply but they did swap it for another one a few cells ago to see if that was the problem.

In the past, we have tried cleaning the cell with muriatic acid, however, there has never been much buildup on the plates. We have not tried cleaning the current cell as it was installed towards the end of the season last year and been powered off for the winter.

We do not have an acid feeder.

We’ve been using bio guard and Clorox brands for the past three years.

This our our third year (4th season)of the new pool. The first and second year were great, no issues. Last year the pool company told us way too much salt and they had to pump out the pool and refill it. That’s when the original intellichlor failed. After that, they’ve been replaced every few weeks with a new ic20. The last attempt was to upgrade to an ic40. Our pool is under 16,000 gallons but we needed to try something different. The ic40 worked great the rest of last season and was fine this season, however, it just recently had to start producing chlorine as the temps and salt levels just got into range. We have since changed pool companies for testing and supplies.

We are at the end of our 3 year warranty in a few weeks. Any help is greatly appreciated!

ajw22 said:

What is the filter PSI?

Is there an air relief valve on the filter and have you purged air until water flows?

If your return flow is normal I would not worry about the sounds.

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The pressure gauge is at zero looks like it went kaput. Needle doesn't moves even when I blow into it. Going to get a new one from HD. I don't think I this model has release valve. Now I think the noise is from pump. It is super series Hayward single speed 1.5 hp

agjr85 said:

Following as we are looking at doing pavers and I hate to deal with pavers's on sand.
But didn't think about doing a concrete base, then pavers over sand

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You see it more in commercial construction where it has already been specified in the drawings and the guy bidding the job doesn’t have to explain the additional costs and benefits of the concrete.

I have high clay soil content in my region, so my current patio has dips and heaves all over the place. When I redo it, I’ll go this route.

HermanTX said:

If you could not see the dot at 30 but can see at 40 then it is 40

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Other way around…

Reread this:

What is the filter PSI?

Is there an air relief valve on the filter and have you purged air until water flows?

If your return flow is normal I would not worry about the sounds.

Maldravus said:

I edited my post - I meant to say 30 not 40. So it is somewhere between 30 and 60.

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If you could not see the dot at 30 but can see at 40 then it is 40

It’s 40 then.

No normal duration. Takes what it takes.

Calll it 50.

I don't think you mean ScreenLogic as I obviously have the app for the Mac, I think you mean the program that directly interfaces with the PA. I used to have a Mac and recall using it to upgrade the PA many years ago

So I am on day 4 of the SLAM. Water is crystal clear (maybe the clearest it's been since I moved here). Chlorine dropped a little overnight so have not passed OCLT yet. Chloramines are 0.5, and I still see some green when I brush in certain areas of the pool, so I expect at least one more day. I know it varies, but what is a "normal" duration for a SLAM ?

Also, I got my new IC40 salt cell yesterday and have wired in the Power Center (not terminated yet). I will put some questions about that in the SWG forum.

Wife is excited because the pool looks so good. Last year we had a neighborhood person coming weekly and I didn't like her - wouldn't tell me what she added to the pool and by her shocking every week it kept me from understanding my SWG wasn't keeping up.

Also, I am revising down my pool volume based on how the FC is reacting to chlorine adds. Right now I am estimating more like 22k gal.

Welcome to TFP.

BuilderOKC said:

My builder is saying that they can backfill the shell with dirt the day after the gunite is shot. I figured there would need to be some cure time before they do this.

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If no access is needed to the outside walls, the gunite can be backfilled after the shot. Gunite will cure fine in the ground.

Gunite/Shotcrete needs to be protected from rain until it obtains its final set, usually 4 or 5 hours. Following the final set, it should be wet cured for at least 4 days, preferably 7 days.

BuilderOKC said:

We have red dirt clay soil. Also another question we are doing Hydrazzo for our pool finish how long should the shell cure before this is shot. Thanks in Advance.

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I would give the shell at least 7 days of watering and curing. Then tile and coping needs to be installed. By the time the shell is watered and tile and coping installed it will be ready for plaster.

amoondoe said:

Hello All,

I had a pool for several years and have been following the TFP methods. I decided to try tackling hard plumbing this year; however, I am having all kinds of trouble getting pipe to properly set in fittings. I am using Oatey Purple Primer and Oatey Rain-R-Shine Blue PVC cement. The glue always seems to be gumming up and and I can't get the pipe fully inside before it locks up. I think I'm moving at a reasonable speed. Am I underestimating the pressure it takes to get it fully seated....maybe I'm just on strong enough and need my husband to do it?

How critical is it that it is fully seated? Is there product that is more forgiving that will stills work? I am using a ratcheting pipe cutter on 1 1/2 PVC...I am deburring. I am not chamfering...at least not well...is that crucial? All help and advice welcome! Thank you!!!

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I use the blue stuff as well. Just apply some to both the pipe and the socket and then insert the pipe within 10 seconds (and hold it there for about 5-10 seconds, or it can back itself out) and it should be fine. If you’re taking longer than 10-ish seconds you will need a slower glue or change your process to be quicker.