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Newdude · May 2, 2025

PoolStored said:
I get 23K not including the shelf

The plans are wall height so the PB is probably right and when we subtract 6 inches for water height (about 2500 gallons) its a hair over 20K.

Pas, how is it behaving when you add stuff ? Have you seen said discrepancy with everything or only bleach ? I trust salt / cya / ch / baking soda (etc) alot more because they don't go in weaker than claimed like bleach might.

Pas_pool · May 2, 2025

PoolStored said:
As I said, use 25K.

I get 23K not including the shelf. Start with the 25K I suggested and use chemicals to adjust volume from there.

Length Width
Feet Inches Feet Inches Length Width Depth Cubic Inches Gallons
Top Volume
37
0
18
0
444
216
39
3,740,256.00 16,191.58
4 corners
48
48
36
-165888
(718.13)
Slope Sides
168
48
56
327936
1,419.64
Ramp
14
0
10
168
120
56
564480
2,443.64
Deep Sides
4
4
48
48
56
129024
558.55
Center Mass
10
6
120
72
56
483840
2,094.55
End Ramp
10
4
120
48
56
239211.5
1,035.55
Corners
-80
22,945.37

Oh okay. So the PB wasn’t too far off. He probably didn’t take into account the shelf when providing me with the gallons for the pool. I thought maybe with the actually diagram we could figure out the exact amount. Thanks again

smac22 · May 2, 2025

I've been troubleshooting a spa leak. Have it narrowed down to the main drains/suction line for the source of the leak. While troubleshooting, I pulled the drain covers off and noticed these 2 holes with no plugs. Should these bottom threaded holes be plugged? I am noticing that when my spa is fully drained, a few inches of water will find its way back in through these main drains. I'm assuming this is ground water and not sure if it's coming in through these bottom holes or if it's coming in through a line leak to the main drains. Any ideas or knowledge with these open threaded holes down there? I've attached a picture without the covers on. Thank you

Mr. Muriaticacid · May 2, 2025

Newdude said:
Here's the deconstruction thread so you can see what's going on inside.

Thanks Newdude, that was interesting. It looks like that cover is epoxied in so if I took it off I would never get it back on without it leaking worse. I’ll just leave it alone and keep it in reserve.

smac22 · May 2, 2025

RDspaguy · May 2, 2025

The floor suctions are unfiltered unless you have a pressure filter (you don't). Straight through the pump and back out of the jets. Generally speaking, if it fits through the grate it will come out of the jets. There are exceptions, of course, usually leaf stems or pine needles and such, but I wouldn't worry too much.

TinFoilHat · May 2, 2025

It just means it's illegal for a pool service or contractor to install it. You can still replace it yourself though. We do recommend a VS due to the electricity it will save over a single speed. As far as AC goes, it's not all legal now either. If a unit runs on R22 and it loses freon, that can't be replaced. If the compressor goes bad you can still run it with a new one only if the old R22 is recoverable and is reused in the new unit.

Many are very happy with the Calimar especially compared to the price of the Pentair and Hayward pumps.

Newdude · May 2, 2025

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SpeedQueen · May 2, 2025

Success! Thanks for all your help!!

PoolStored · May 2, 2025

Yes. Watch your filter pressure, you may be cleaning a lot. Or vac to waste.

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JamesW · May 2, 2025

What Does the Flow/Temperature Switch do on the IntelliChlor?[edit]

The flow switch also contains a thermistor that senses water temperature. The water temperature is used for the salinity calculation. If the thermistor is failing the salinity will be incorrect.

Flow switch has 4 wires on cells manufactured before September 2018:

Red/black - flow switch
Green/white - temperature sensor

Flow switch has 3 wires on cells manufactured after September 2018:

Red - flow switch
White - temperature sensor
Black - common

The IntelliChlor uses the Harwil Q-12DST-C2 flow switch.[2] It has an integrated 10k thermistor.[3]

With no temperature input, the cell defaults to a temperature of 77 Fahrenheit. The sensors are prone to failure. When the sensor fails and it's obvious to the software that the sensor has failed, it defaults to a standard temperature of 77 f.

To electrically confirm the cell is generating you can use a clamp ammeter to measure the DC current at the red or black wire on the surge board. It should be about 6 to 8 amps DC.

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JamesW · May 2, 2025

PoolStored · May 2, 2025

As I said, use 25K.

I get 23K not including the shelf. Start with the 25K I suggested and use chemicals to adjust volume from there.

	Length		Width
	Feet	Inches	Feet	Inches	Length	Width	Depth	Cubic Inches	Gallons
Top Volume	37	0	18	0	444	216	39	3,740,256.00	16,191.58
4 corners		48		48			36	-165888	(718.13)
Slope Sides		168		48			56	327936	1,419.64
Ramp	14	0	10		168	120	56	564480	2,443.64
Deep Sides	4		4		48	48	56	129024	558.55
Center Mass	10		6		120	72	56	483840	2,094.55
End Ramp	10		4		120	48	56	239211.5	1,035.55
Corners									-80
									22,945.37

JamesW · May 2, 2025

JamesW said:
Check the amperage.

Check the cell temperature.

JamesW said:
What is the cell temperature?

JamesW said:
Check the amperage (DC).

JamesW said:
Check the water temperature as shown in the video.

Disconnect the temperature sensor.

fabsroman said:
When you say to disconnect the water temp sensor, are you talking about the one plumbed in after the pump/before the filter with a lead that goes to the Easy Touch panel?

Watch the video to see how to check cell temperature and how to disconnect the temperature sensor in the flow switch.

Cut the white wire.

Dattdoan · May 2, 2025

Scott3085 · May 2, 2025

I know that we aren't supposed to use our robotic vacuum or any vacuum with wheels for the first 4 weeks our pool is open. However, even after brushing twice a day for a week, there's still a decent amount of sediment at the bottom. Is it possible to use one of those cheaper style vacuum heads with just brushes instead of the normal wheeled nozzle you have on an in-ground pool vac head? To me, the brushes seem no different than those on our pool brush. I don't want to ruin our plaster but I'm also pretty picky about dirt in the pool. Thanks in advance pool pros!

Jimrahbe · May 2, 2025

John,

I have a Pentair CCP-520 and I installed two Waterway filters in a couple of rent house...

Both filters are about the same quality.. I'd go with the larger filter for the same price..

I like the location of the drain plug on the Waterway much better.

I like the belt assembly on the Waterway better..

Either will work just fine.

Here is a good place to check pricing...

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Crystal Water Cartridge

Thanks,

Jim R.

JamesW · May 2, 2025

fabsroman said:
if anybody has any advice on what I can do to keep this going, I'll take the advice and give it a shot.

I have recommended several things and you have not done them.

Gsax5260 · May 2, 2025

picklebush said:
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duxthaman · May 2, 2025

1poolman1 said:
Uprated Whisperflow. You can change the motor to a variable-speed one.

Sorry what does this mean? I can leave the housing and just get a new motor?

Alexr54 · May 2, 2025

Wow thanks guys!
I did not know its illegal.
I get the energy consumption. But i'm paying for it every month with my electricity bill. There are things that use much more energy (Like AC units) which are still perfectly legal.

My pool equipment is located at the side of my house and under a permanent attached canopy, with a roof/shingles. Its open except for the roof.
Noise is not a factor for me.
The loudest thing is the Spa blower anyway, and it's a brand new one.
I have a salt cell. Replace filters every 6 months at minimum. Have a robotic pool cleaner.

Maintenance is really a non factor.

Plan on adding a float switch in the pool skimmer with an auto top off in the coming weeks.
I like to have everything as automated as possible.

So would you guys suggest the expensive hayward pump or would you suggest the much cheaper Calimar?
Or any other suggestions?

Yorker · May 2, 2025

There is a LONG back story which for now will only confuse readers so I’m limiting this post to the portion I need to be educated on today.

Our pool lights have worked properly for the past 7 years. Everything is now out of warranty, so over the past the past 2 years I have purchased and installed 3 Pentair Globrite lights (the worst product ever).

When I called our local Pentair certified service company to review the problem that all our lights stopped working at the same time, they said:
1) your service panel is not wired correctly
2) the system is not designed to accommodate that type of functionality you’re requesting.

I know that is a bunch of craaap. Again a long back story about that.

For now all I need to understand is what are the elements involved that allow the 3 Features to turn our Pentair Globrite lights off/on in 3 sections of our pool?

— Due the three boxes outside our service panel have anything to do with light functionality?

— IS there something inside the panel that controls how the lights function?

— OR is it only how the pool light wires are connected (inside the external box) to the wires that come from the service panel?

Thanks for your time,
York

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TwinsPool · May 2, 2025

I'm out of ideas now, so it looks like I am just going to have to live with a non-fully primed pump and deal with air eventually getting into the filter requiring purging.

I am removing the skimmer/main-drain diverter from the bottom of the skimmer to alleviate at least a little head.

I'll also try removing the floating weir (I'll see if I actually need it), since it appears to be somewhat restrictive also.

I will probably return the flapper to the check valve that's located between the filter and the heater(s), since it will help avoid any inadvertent reverse flow that may accidentally send my DE from the filter either to the pool or to my vacuum-to-waste pipe.

I plan to change from full-time (24/7) pumping at 1700 RPM to a significantly less time per day. Hope that doesn't cause more problems.

I'm still open for suggestions, but it seems we have exhausted everything except an underground air leak. I suppose I could still rebuild all the PVC connections on the suction side of the pump even though the hose flooding method didn't detect anything there. Maybe I will try that sometime.

Anyway, thanks again for everyone's help to date.

Pas_pool · May 2, 2025

Who can provide me with the correct gallons for my pool? Here is the diagram. PB says it’s 22,800. But pool math is not adding up when I added chemicals. Thanks.

ajw22 · May 2, 2025

Most likely the thermistor on the heater manifold.

You can test the thermistor using a multimeter and measure the ohms which indicate the temperature it is reporting.

Temperature Sensors - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Pas_pool · May 2, 2025

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