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Plat. Pools pride themselves on having "in-house" plumbing crews. Surprised they are doing a lower HP pump, guessing the no spa and water features.
If you ask for the salt water generator, they may push you to alternatives, very rare to find a PB in Houston that promotes SWG off the bat.

As for your gas heater, that's pretty much the standard in Houston. Given you have no spa then I would steer more towards the scenario of how often you plan to heat up the pool? Do you plan to use it as early as March/April? As for doing it after, how much are you going to save after you factor in plumbing / setup. If you dont' make sure to leave enough space on the equipment pad (ensure you have the pad poured as if you were doing a gas heater).
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dereksanders
oledan said:
Yes, I admit my fold up chairs are a bit tacky next to a very nice pool area (thank you for the compliment btw) but they were 19.99 at Wally. We take them to watch my Granddaughters softball games.

But you’re right and gave me something to think about. 😁
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If so inclined, you can find plans and build your own for the cost of the lumber which will cost substantially less and provide more satisfaction.

Once I get home I’ll take a pic of mine.
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Pump noise

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Last year before I closed my pool I was noticing that my pool pump was taking longer to prime and I hear this grinding noise? Kind of sounds like something is in there, I did flush it out and theres nothing in there that I can see. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix the noise? I uploaded the video to youtube, hope it works lol

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First look at Pentair's new IntelliChlor Plus30

JoyfulNoise
Lake Placid said:
This is actually a bit nuanced. You can be a Pentair partner and NOT be authorized to perform warranty work…. Even on your own installs as a professional. You have to be on a separate secret list to be authorized to perform Pentair warranty work. Ask me how I know….🤣
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First time pool opening and a lot of conflicting information

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PoolStored said:
Yes, that CYA got converted into ammonia, the ammonia was removed by the chlorine.

No, leave it, you want it low for the SLAM.

Yes! When you start it up, run the pump on high and not clean pressure. During SLAM, you want to run your pump on low speed, filters better. Every couple hours, run on high speed and note pressure. When pressure rises 25%, clean the filter again. You may be doing lots of filter cleaning.
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I think I made a mistake. I was suppose to go to 12ppm but instead I went to ~10 and it’s been holding steady and didn’t drop any overnight (swg was off). Should I increase to 12 and do it again?
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Bestway Flowclear 1500 Sand filter issues, backflow loss of pressure

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Oh my goodness - when they say you need to regularly deep clean your sand filter, they mean it. Between ant nuptial flights and oak flower season, it was totally clogged up. It took 10 minutes just to flush out my puny 20lb of sand with the garden hose.

I checked the gasket on the multiport as well as the pump impeller and everything looked fine. I'm just an idiot. :p Hopefully this was causing my flow/circulation and subsequent algae issues.
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No Chlorine

SJPoe
See, that makes me mad tho.
Newdude said:
...if they are simply ignorant to basic water chemistry, all those swamps are very profitable.
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Great, so basically they are trading on a false pretense of expertise - how is this not fraud ?

But if they DO know basics water chemistry and do how they do, all those swamps are very profitable.
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In this case, it would be deliberately misleading the customer to enable more sales. That HAS to be fraudulent...

Thats weatherman level 'I get paid to screw up' right there.
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In the weatherman's defense, they have way more variables to deal with than the pool store.
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SJPoe
We've been swimming, and it's almost nice enough to pull all the furniture out of the pole-barn, but not quite...probably next weekend.

Meanwhile I've been working on my automation - need to plumb in a couple temp sensors, and the pressure sensor, and then the plan is to add a motorized valve to bypass the heater when the pool doesn't need heat, and be able to drop the pump speed down even further. Of course, explaining to the wife why I need to spend a couple hundred bucks on valves and plumbing parts in order to cut my power usage from 500W to 300W...that's a bit harder ;)

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Raypak 206A Rapidly Heating Water

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Stuck on this issue after a lot of troubleshooting and repair attempts.

Behavior: Burner lights fine. Clean blue flames. Readout water temp on panel rapidly rises (beyond 100F at unrealistic rates for normal flow) until heater kicks off due to lack of heat demand. After heater kicks off and pool pump is still pushing water, temperature continues to rise, often all the way to 150F before stabilizing and eventually coming back down.

Checked water flow into pool, very good pressure. No air, all water when bleeding from filter.

Replaced thermistor (twice). Same temp behavior.

Vacuumed, soft-brushed, and low-pressure water-cleaned heat exchange fins. Same temp behavior.

Removed and tested unitherm governor. It lengthened in hot water like you would expect. (Governor O-Ring was a bit worn, added lube and have a replacement coming tomorrow.)

No scaling or other buildup present anywhere in the unit that I can see.

I'm stumped. It doesn't seem like a control board issue, because the temperature readings are normal (~70F) until heating starts. I would be surprised if there is scaling inside the heat exchanger, I have the version with cupronickel, and my pool chemistry is normal.
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What did you do to your pool today?

Turbo1Ton
oledan said:
Yes, I admit my fold up chairs are a bit tacky next to a very nice pool area (thank you for the compliment btw) but they were 19.99 at Wally. We take them to watch my Granddaughters softball games.

But you’re right and gave me something to think about. 😁
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I'll second the polywood adirondacks. I have 4 of them, sans cushions, around my fire pit. They are very comfy. And they stay put in high winds also.

--Jeff
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Tiny bit of black algae in corner - keep slamming?

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Hey all, after opening and slamming my pool, the water is crystal clear except for one tiny corner in the deep end that looks like black algae. Hitting it with any kind of pressure with the brush is difficult because of how deep it is, but I am able to brush it. Brushing seems to do nothing. During the SLAM, the spot did reduce slightly. Should I keep my FC at SLAM level for this small spot, or let it reduce down to normal levels and jump in to brush it better? I've attached two pictures, one zoomed in and one without zoom just to get an idea of how small it is. Any advice is appreciated - thanks!

Vinyl Pool with SWG - currently off, will turn this on once FC levels reduce
FC is at 14 (this is 2 days after bringing it up to SLAM level of 20)
CC is 0.5
CYA is 50 (will bring this up to 60-70 after I get this spot cleaned up)
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No Chlorine

SJPoe
Bryanth76 said:
liquid and powders plus tablets. I put 2 lbs of shock weekly and 1 gallon of liquid just to add some chlorine my pool store can’t figure it out
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Your pool store is stupid then.

Your pool is going to use 2-4 PPM of Chlorine EVERY DAY. Probably more if your CYA is as low as 35. Mine uses 3-4 a day in Mid-Michigan...

In a ~ 30,000 gallon pool, '2 pounds of shock and a gallon of liquid' would come out to (at best) about 9ppm. So, assuming your pool ONLY lost 2ppm FC a day, you'd lose 14 in a week, so the last 2.5 days you basically have no FC. Which is exactly what your tests are telling you. You have no FC because you aren't adding enough to offset the losses.

The solution (which the pool store wont like...)

1) Order yourself a good test kit - some examples are listed Test Kits Compared
2) Add a gallon of 12.5% Liquid Chlorine every day until the test kit arrives
3) Once the kit arrives, perform a full set of tests, and an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test
4) Post all the results here and the brain trust will give you more specific direction
5) Review Pool Care Basics

6) Don't trust the pool store again.
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