Strange behavior with a Pentair VSF pump

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Just Bought My First Case of Liquid Chlorine For 2025! Help With Date Codes?

No. Its 25/021xxxxx. Which is Jan 21. Or maybe this one is a traditional date. (You missed the 0 and wanted it to be day 217)

if its a date, It's awfully close 25/ 02/17 to the Julian 25049 which is 2/18. Will be interesting to see on future bottles if the gap widens because the 2nd one is a product# and stays the same, or they stay close because it's bottled on / boxed on. (Etc)

The 1st # on the jug should be the bottle date. On the box it's harder to tell because they're above one another.

Valve actuator addition.

04,

Most system are designed to move two valves at the same time, plus some extra.. Having an external transformer is just a cheap way to ensure that you don't blow up your existing system.
In most cases, using the existing 24 VAC is not an issue. Just something that I personally would not do. :mrgreen:

Any 24 VDC single pole double throw (SPDT) relay will work. The problem is how to mount it.. You can use the '2-speed' relay for your system, which should have a place to mount it, but they are $$$$.

It will operate like any of your Aux Circuits.. It will work just like your lights work now.. So, if you can turn on your lights from your phone, then you can turn on this aux circuit from your phone.

Thanks,

Jim R.
I can figure a way to mount it that’s not an issue. I assume it has to have a signal to close and to open or it moves back to the original position once it is turned on or off depending how it’s set up?

In beginning stages

My steel/vinyl pool is over 30 years old now. I have had to replace the liner twice due to age (so, ~10yrs per liner). I believe, most steps are fiberglass - mine are, and are original.
A gas heater is the most efficient - if you have a reasonable way to run the gas line. Water sucks a LOT of heat to warm up, so no matter what heater, be prepared for much, much higher energy bills. I only use mine a few days in the spring, and again a couple of days in the fall. A heater can be a "do it later" option if you want to hold down initial expenses.
A "bubble wrap" type solar cover can go a long way toward heating and retaining heat, just from the sun. Explore options, mine uses a manual reel to take it off, and it is a bother to cover/uncover each time the pool is to be used. Not too expensive, and can be added any time. There may be more modern arrangements than mine. An autocover is neat, but may drive your budget too high. It does need to be installed during the build.
Lots of debate about off season covers - I use a mesh type that can even be walked on, to keep the pool area safe during the winter. Others like solid covers, that are not walkable but do a better job of keeping dirt out.

BUT - the best, most important thing: Get a Variable Speed pump, and a Salt Water Chlorine Generator. This is a must. You'll otherwise go nuts managing the chemistry - it will be like adopting a puppy and needing to buy expensive food and feed it every single day. No exceptions. But, with the generator, the work load shrinks dramatically. I only need to check mine weekly, and it only takes 15 min.
The variable speed pump allows you to save massive amounts of electricity. Most of us run them as slow as we can 24/7.
Walk away from your builder if they try to scare you about rust and corrosion with a salt pool. The salt level is 1/10th the ocean, and most can't even taste it.
Thank you!

Strange behavior with a Pentair VSF pump

I went on-site yesterday and discovered an air leak on the suction pool valve diverter shaft. The obvious symptoms were air bubbles on the pool return jet, excessive air on the pool filter, and air noise at the diverter when the pump was stopped. I took the diverter apart, replaced the shaft O-rings, applied pool lube, and reassembled it. The pump primed quickly, and the variance in the flow and wattage readings decreased. I appreciate the help from the forum.

Aqualink OneTouch Control panel with blank screen - pool is new to me

The IQ30-RS kit provides you a new (and hopefully the latest) revision PCB. You also receive a new antenna 3.0 which works with mesh WifI systems.
There will be 2 RED connectors which are your RS-465 connections. As stated earlier - you can put 2 devices on each RED connectors. Most new hook ups need a minimum of 2 RED connectors Example of RS-485 connections- the RS 3.0 antenna, a VS pump and a SWCG.

I had an inside panel which I removed once I installed the IQ30-RS package. I use my phone app 99% of time and have it on an iPad if needed. But I find it best that one person controls the pool information.
I also did away with the spa controller. Mine was placed in the deck next to the spa and constantly being hit by things or the sun beamed down on it.

For the OneTouch, try running a new cable direct from your panel short maybe 10 feet to see if it is the cable or the OneTouch. It can use any alarm system 4 wire cable.

Also if you need more RS-485 connections you can get the multiplexor to expand capacity.

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Hayward 400FD CE Error & Aqualogic Control Issue

Good day all,

I am hoping someone can help me. I have done a number of repairs of my system, as of late. One of those was fixing the dreaded CE error which I managed to fix with a new keypad and board for the heater. The issue I am having is that before replacing the board in the heater, I could leave the heater in bypass and when I hit spa or pool on my remote and turned on the heater, it would flip the heater to spa or pool heat mode.

After replacing the board it doesn’t seem to matter whether I push pool or spa on the remote it always jumps the heater to the pool heat temp setting. I can manually flip the heater to spa mode and it takes it to spa temperature with no issue.

One other small issue, the heater is saying it is heating to 104, but the spa isn’t that hot. I replaced the heat exchanger a couple of weeks back, could that have anything to do with it?

Thank you in advance.

Valve actuator addition.

04,

Most system are designed to move two valves at the same time, plus some extra.. Having an external transformer is just a cheap way to ensure that you don't blow up your existing system.
In most cases, using the existing 24 VAC is not an issue. Just something that I personally would not do. :mrgreen:

Any 24 VDC single pole double throw (SPDT) relay will work. The problem is how to mount it.. You can use the '2-speed' relay for your system, which should have a place to mount it, but they are $$$$.

It will operate like any of your Aux Circuits.. It will work just like your lights work now.. So, if you can turn on your lights from your phone, then you can turn on this aux circuit from your phone.

Thanks,

Jim R.

Valve actuator addition.

Welcome to TFP.

You can control an actuator using a high voltage AUX relay using this circuit. Aux relays use two wires - 24 VDC and ground. Valve actuators use three wires - two 24 VAC lines and ground. AC on one line will turn the valve one way and AC on the other line will turn the valve the other way.

You could use the Aux relay to control the 24 VAC so that it will turn the valve using the following circuit. But normal Aux relays won't work as they do not have any Normally Closed contacts. You need a relay that has NC and NO contacts.

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Sorry for multiple reply’s but if I do set it up this way can I still control the valve from the automation board via my phone from an open input source off the panel or no?

Spa emptying when selecting spa

Your spa draining down into the pool nightly is not a leak and is not a major problem.

Nothing will be damaged if your spa drains down nightly, and then in the morning, the spillover refills the spa for the day.

I am happy to continue working with you to find out what is siphoning, or you can accept that is the way your pool works.
Hi AJW old thread and I’m back on the pool maintenance getting ready for summer. Quick question 1. is there anywhere I could add a check valve to stop the water emptying out of the spa when the pump isn’t running over night or as we experienced using the spa
2. Last night it drained over the spill way as we were getting in and out and didn’t refill whilst the pump was on ?

Just Bought My First Case of Liquid Chlorine For 2025! Help With Date Codes?

Do the bottles have both #s with 25xxxxxxx ?

In this, um, case (hehe), they're both plenty fresh and close in date, but we don't know which is the right one from the box. Maybe the other 25something # is their normal product code or whatever and it just happens to look Julian.
Yes! The bottles have same code. So bottled mid Feb and Purchased at my local RK a few days later. I'll check back at my RK to see if there are newer cases for purchase at that time but for now, I'm quiet pleased with my purchase.

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Pool spillover bowl dripping backwards

Do you have any installation information from the manufacturer of that bowl? Do you know who made it?

Can you throw a level on the bowl and check its level front to back?

Can you give overall dimensions of the bowl and the position of the spillover like relative to the edge of that platform?

From the picture you posted, the bowl may not be installed correctly.
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Anyone have a fiberglass spa/hot tub?

Welcome to TFP.

There are members who do and they work fine if properly installed. It may take a while as folks return here for the start of their pool season.

The challenge seems to be how the spa to pool spillover is implemented. That sets the maximum spa water level, lets the spa water be refreshed with pool water, keeps the water chemistry the same between the two, and shares the equipment.
Do you think separate plumbing without the spillover would be better?

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