Student: Trying to Learn Where People Purchase Pool Supplies

Hi All!

I'm a business student doing some research into the pool industry. One question I'm trying to answer is what are the factors that influence where consumers/contractors/homeowners shop for anything related to their pools.

My initial thoughts / research would say the biggest factors are cheapest prices, quality service, and product availability (in that order). What am I missing? Did I get the order of importance wrong? Did I completely miss a factor?

Thanks!

Stabilizing PH

Ok so the pool isn't new. Plaster has a big MA appetite as it cures the first year.

Another frequent headache is folks chasing ideal levels in the low 7s that ask for a quick bounce back.

Try shifting to 7.8 instead of 7.6 and see if that helps any. Dose at 8+, mix for 15 mins and retest to make sure you hit the target. Repeat as necessary. Occasionally you might goof to 7.6 and thats totally fine when it happens.

2016 Pentair Intellichlor IC40 & Power Center -- time to replace?

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Thanks,

Jim R.
Went ahead and purchased a IC40 cell from marina pool spa and patio. Thanks!

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Pentair Pool Light Problems

I have the Y-764889 Pool Light. It's from 2007 or so, and not working.

The apparent alternative is the Pentair Architectural Series pool light. Outrageously expensive, so I'm hoping I might save that slight amount if I can find out the proper cord length to buy, 50' or 100'.

What was the maximum cord length you could get for the Y-764889 light? I tried to ask Pentair, and they possibly said it came in 30-foot and 50-foot lengths that she could find. So not 100% confidence in that answer. Yes, I'll have 100% confidence in the Troublefree Pool answer. The real problem also is that I'd like to disconnect the wiring, and pull it through, with a string of course so I can get the next one through, and measure it exactly, but I can't see where the wiring from the light goes to. I know, somewhat ridiculous but, where I'd think it would be, the wire sheathing is black, but at the light it is orange.

Appreciate any help.

Want to upgrade to salt, plumbing sanity check and recommendations

Cool then I'm not gonna worry about that anode then, it'll save some cash anyway. I was thinking then I can do this:
Put in a Jandy 3 way valve for bypass where the dead temp sensor is, relocate that somewhere else (better before or after the heater or does it matter?), outlet facing up and an elbow with pipe towards the outlet line
Put a check valve for the bypass between the output and the current elbow, turn the existing elbow up instead of down, then tee to accept the line from the bypass. Might not have enough room the clear the filter putting the tee before the elbow.
Go up over and down through the cell, then flow switch and back to the existing valve into the pool

The only potential problem I run into is that the check valve might move that elbow maybe an inch or so out so it's not in line with the existing pipe into the valve anymore. Not sure if I'll need to get creative to make that up or not. I might also be over thinking that too to be honest, heh.

Since I'm going to be adding the extra valves, I might go with the Pureline at Inyo then since I can get everything in one shot (discount salt pools doesn't seem to carry valves that I can find) and I already got my pump through them so it'll be a bit easier to have everything in one place too. You're right, the price isn't really that big of a deal long term either way and I'm sure the warranty difference probably doesn't mean much in real life either after 2 years.

For a laugh, I asked chatgpt to help diagram the changes to the plumbing and it gave me this. I might have to hang this somewhere near the equipment pad lol

Edit: forgot the pipe across for the bypass in the plan

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Cleaning Pool after Floc

Thanks ,
I have one more question regarding the sand filter.
I run the filter for 1 Hr just after floc and recycle the water for two hours, so the dust didn’t sunk yet. In addition I backwashed and rinse for 2 minutes. To your opinion will my filter was gummed? How can I verify it ?
Thanks 🙏
There's no way to see the sand except for you to look and see when you do the deep clean as linked.

Is it a good idea to vacuum the pool and clean the cartridges before starting the SLAM process?

I didn’t do a good job closing the pool. I had to do it early and in a rush because I was leaving for a trip. As a result, my pool is very green after opening this year, with a thick layer of algae everywhere.

I ordered a test kit that will arrive tomorrow. In the meantime, is it a good idea to vacuum the pool?

Also, should I only test for pH and CYA, or do I need to adjust alkalinity as well?

Thank you.

Stabilizing PH

I last added MA in June 2023. :ROFLMAO:

How high does the PH get ?

How much are you lowering it ?

How old is the pool ?


Ooooh. Please excuse my terrible manners. Belated Welcome to TFP !!! :wave: I musta missed your intro thread, apologies again for that.
I don’t know how high it will get. I always add acid when I see it’s above the recommended levels. I just add how much poolmath says to lower it to 7.6. Not sure how old the pool is exactly. House was built in 2010 and I moved in here last year

Stabilizing PH

Hello, just wondering how often you guys are adding muriatic acid to lower the ph? My ph consistently goes up every few days and I have to add anywhere from 6-12oz of acid to drop it back down every couple days. Just wondering if that is the normal. You can see my test and logs in poolmath. I’ve made sure the return jets are just breaking the surface to not agitate it. I don’t have anything else that would aerate the water either. I thought it was my TA but lowered that from 70-60 as I have seen on here that helps.

Pool has never looked better since I started taking over the care and have learned an incredible amount from here

MasterTemp HD400: removing/disabling the fireman's switch

Is there a way to remove or disable the fireman's switch from a MasterTemp HD400? All the manuals I can find online talk about the Smart Control which seems to be the same as the fireman's switch and they make it sound optional. I'm not sure whether the switch can be removed entirely, if I should use a jumper fuse to connect them together, or something else.

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The heater is connected to the same Intermatic timer as our SWG on the fireman's switch toggle on the timer. We've only been operating this pool for 3 years but I'm guessing the previous owners had a single speed pump and heater connected to the timer. Later they upgraded to a VSP and moved that to its own switch, added a SWG to the timer, and left the heater on the timer. Last month the off control on the timer sprung loose and the heater and SWG ran all day and racked up a nice natural gas bill in the hundreds of dollars, as well as a bunch of scaling I'm sure. I'd like to take the heater off the timer. We have always operated the heater manually anyway the handful of times we use it per year.
If you don't have the yellow jumper wire shown in JamesW's picture, cut the wires shorter at the grey box, strip the ends, twist the ends together, tape the connection, and you're good. Or, just remove the wires at the fireman's switch and do the same thing, twist them together and tape the connection. Its better to do it in the heater as rodents like the taste of wiring insulation and can gnaw through that, usually, tiny wire.

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