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Discrepancy between TFP test kit and Pool Math App
- By ajw22
- Testing and Balancing Your Water
- 9 Replies
You have a test kit from TFT which has different recommendations then TFP.
TA down to 50 is OK.
www.troublefreepool.com
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TA down to 50 is OK.
TA - Further Reading
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Why are TFP Recommendations Different than Manufacturers? - Further Reading
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When to remove water (from rain fall)
- By Newdude
- Just Getting Started
- 33 Replies
So we get about 3ft of off season rain and it's your choice if you pump it from above or below the cover. But it'll need pumping. Solid covers are nice for leaving a pump on them to mostly be hands off, but will still need fiddling at times. I drain mine 1ft at a time 2 or 3 times depending on the year, when I was already around all day anyway. It takes 10 mins to setup/breakdown and occasional checking every once in a while, but you're mostly free to do whatever else while it drains so that time doesnt count IMO.
Either way would make me appreciate the drain to waste during the season.
Solid covers can handle more stress, my Basset was digging in for traction and ripping the 'dense mesh'. Not to say he couldn't with a solid cover, but it'd be less likely.
I put my mesh on/off by myself and would need help with a 800 sq ft solid cover because its much heavier.
Mesh is tradionally 1/4 to 1/3 less expensive but not cheap.
That's all I got for now, hang tight for other thoughts.
Sweet. Disregard.
Nasty stain on Pebble Sheen!
- By dndrich
- Swimming Pool Start-up and Closing
- 8 Replies
OK, excellent advice! I am going to give the vitamin C trick a try soon. If it works, I assume I could use ascorbic acid in a sock and spot treat the stain.Looks like metals staining - iron or copper.
Crush up some vitamin C tablets into a paste and put it in s sock and rub it on the stain. If it lifts it is iron staining. If it gets darker it is copper staining.
Stain ID Kit | Jacks Magic
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Ascorbic Acid Treatment - Further Reading For iron staining
Copper in Pool Water - Further Reading
When to remove water (from rain fall)
- By Pas_pool
- Just Getting Started
- 33 Replies
Oh ok. I have three of those haha. Before I found the leaks in my basement and patched them I had some fun a. One seasons backNot that often to matter IMO (3 to 4 times a season) and the puddle was gone in 20 mins. But before the pool that area was nothing special.
Yup. I got a bigger one that takes a 1 inch or 1.5 inch hose because waiting hours and hours gets old. Now I only wait hours. Lol. Amazon has a 1.6 HP Lanchez pump for $83 which is cheaper than the 0.3 HP at the box stores. Kinda a no brainer.
What did you mean I’ll need a pump when I get a mesh cover? My PB quoted me one installed, but I’m trying to research solid covers now. Want to the price difference and benefits of each
SLAM Complete: Still Milky
- By Newdude
- Algae - Prevention and Treatment
- 19 Replies
It hurts nothing but your patience.
To be fair, i'm up early everyday and i'd probably do them for funsies too.
That's one of the 'should I slam' criteria. (1+ CC).
To exit slam / pass OCLT you need :
-TFP clear water
- Overnight loss of 1FC or less (IMO C's don't get degrees here, so i count 1 FC as a fail).
-CC's of 0.5 or less. (IMO, if one needs 0.2 resolution to pass, they got a C- at best)
Have refreshers, more will make sense now :
SLAM Process
Overnight Chlorine Loss Test
Any noticable improvement compared to the slow improvement ? How quickly did the PSI spike ?
FC and CYA - Justifying the increased cost of Liquid Chlorine
- By PoolStored
- Just Getting Started
- 26 Replies
Welcome to TFP!!!
Being in SoCal, it may be that you have high CYA degradation. I'm not sure your approach is sustainable.
3 pucks a week is 8.2 FC. and add 5 CYA. So 20 CYA per month...that is high, but not out of the realm of possibility.
The weekly shock is likely cal-hypo...which adds calcium, and like CYA only draining removes it. I don't think you get enough rain to pump out enough to lower it.
Normal FC consumption is 3-5 per day, so on the low end, you use 21FC per week. The powdered shock likely is how he got by.
As to the cost side, here are comparisons for your pool size. Don't know the price of the pucks you get, but this is fair comparison with your pool size. Installing an SWG is the way to lower your cost per FC.
Kinda doesn't matter what you do at this point, without a kit, you don't know where you stand. Get the kit, do your tests, then if you want, follow his routine and report your numbers for a week. Then we can figure out what is going on...
Being in SoCal, it may be that you have high CYA degradation. I'm not sure your approach is sustainable.
3 pucks a week is 8.2 FC. and add 5 CYA. So 20 CYA per month...that is high, but not out of the realm of possibility.
The weekly shock is likely cal-hypo...which adds calcium, and like CYA only draining removes it. I don't think you get enough rain to pump out enough to lower it.
Normal FC consumption is 3-5 per day, so on the low end, you use 21FC per week. The powdered shock likely is how he got by.
As to the cost side, here are comparisons for your pool size. Don't know the price of the pucks you get, but this is fair comparison with your pool size. Installing an SWG is the way to lower your cost per FC.
Kinda doesn't matter what you do at this point, without a kit, you don't know where you stand. Get the kit, do your tests, then if you want, follow his routine and report your numbers for a week. Then we can figure out what is going on...
CC - Wont go down!
- By HarrisonHRG
- Testing and Balancing Your Water
- 21 Replies
Thanks for the link, I think we are going to go for the Elecro Quantum AOP system, reasonably priced & meets the right criteria.Haha … my water hits 31°C from sun exposure on any given afternoon starting June 1st …
The Dryden Aqua people are in your neck of the woods (Scotland). You might look into their filtration systems to see if that’s something you’d invest in. They do sell an Advanced Oxidation Process (AOP) cell that uses UV/peroxide injections to reduce CCs. The only issue there is that a peroxide based AOP system will reduce FC levels so its use would have to be timed in such a way as to not compete with your chlorination process.
I think the plan upon high CC’s would be to stop chlorinating over night, run the unit all night, then program a chlorine dose in the morning before the pool opens to bring the level back up/replenish the FC it removed in the process.
If this enables us to reduce CC’s in a high demand pool we will be happy with the result.
Does anyone know? Are the CC’s still gassed off with the AOP system? E.G we still need to look at adequate ventilation/air exchange?
Thanks
ok, after much research, i still need help knowing which UV system to purchase/install
- Everything Else
- 19 Replies
@JoyfulNoise is likely your best source here.
You've probably seen this Wiki page, but I'll post it anyways. Good luck in your research.
www.troublefreepool.com
You've probably seen this Wiki page, but I'll post it anyways. Good luck in your research.
UV Systems - Further Reading
www.troublefreepool.com
When to remove water (from rain fall)
- By Newdude
- Just Getting Started
- 33 Replies
Not that often to matter IMO (3 to 4 times a season) and the puddle was gone in 20 mins. But before the pool that area was nothing special.
Yup. I got a bigger one that takes a 1 inch or 1.5 inch hose because waiting hours and hours gets old. Now I only wait hours. Lol. Amazon has a 1.6 HP Lanchez pump for $83 which is cheaper than the 0.3 HP at the box stores. Kinda a no brainer.
We Have a Winner! TFP Pool of the Month (May 2025) - "Cannonball!" - Family Fun
- By Mdragger88
- About Trouble Free Pool
- 8 Replies
Most of mine are videos so this will have to do!
RayPak Outdoor Stack Kit or Pagoda
- By ajw22
- Everything Else
- 7 Replies
You have a draft hood designed for indoor installations. The section you have is designed to be connected to a custom vent pipe with a vent cap on the top.
The guys who you had install it are hacks.
The guys who you had install it are hacks.
