Friend bought house with pool *updated*

So it's looking like a minimum of 50-60% water exchange to get CYA down?
Have him do the test following these instructions. START at #8:

Test after opening salt pool

Thank you all. I set the swcg at 10 and will check FC tomorrow. Question thought, do you run the swcg always or you switch it off here and there? I have the pool math but not the salt function. I just wonder if swcg meant to be always on or not
It is best to always run the SWCG while the pump is on.
some like to run 24 hrs and produce a little chlorine at a time throughout the 24 period
Others may run the pump for 10 hrs (example only) but the SWCG is on the full time the pump is on.

If you have Pool Math app, go to top left (hamburger menu) and select Effects of Adding. Ensure the pool volume is accurate, then select your SWCG model. Pick either pump run time or % output or desired FC to be calculated and put data in for 2 of the 3 which solves for the 3rd.
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StaRite 400 Heater woes....

The 2 low-voltage wires going from the heater to the Aqualink panel are the fireman's switch used by Aqualink to control the heater.

The first thing to do on the STA-Rite heater is to disconnect the control wire and jumper the Fireman's switch to restore local control of the heater.

Report back what happens when you do that and try and run the heater from its control panel with the pump running.


The StaRite is identical internally to the MasterTemp in a round cabinet.

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Low Salt Indication on SWG

Greetings TFP SWG Gurus!

I'm looking for advice on what to do about my SWG system. I have a Circupool RJ-45 Plus unit running on my 9640-gallon pool/spa. I bought it 4x oversized based on advice I got from these forums to purposely not over-work/stress the SWG. That was great advice!

Here are my pool chemistry numbers today before I added corrective measures and opened the pool for summer:
FCL: 5.30
TCL: 5.30
pH: 8.1
ALK: 210
CH: 385
CYA: 75
SALT: 3640ppm (measured by AquaCheck strip & a calibrated Orapxi digital tester) (Circupool recommends 3000-4000ppm salt levels)
CSI: +0.78
TEMP: 76F
WATER FLOW: ~50GPM

After plugging the above numbers into TFP's pool calculator, I added 95oz of 31.45% muriactic acid to kick the pH down to 6.9 and the CSI to -0.39. Because I have a waterfall feature, the pH will always drift upwards towards pH 8.0 or so after a few days and I've done this chemistry see-saw ritual for years without issue.

After making sure the chemistry was corrected, I removed the bypass tube, installed the SWG cell, and powered it up to it's normal 35% generation. I never run the cell if the water temps are <70F, and it is disconnected after the swim season in fall. The 2-year old cell was also cleaned before installation with a ~6% muriatic acid solution for 10 minutes as it was very lightly scale contaminated from last year.

My problem is: the cell performed well at first, but shuts off with a LO SALT warning light after about 20-30 minutes. I recycled the SWG power off, then back on again - it performs well for about 20-30 minutes before throwing another LO SALT warning. After the second time it did this, I watched the digital display on the controller carefully. After a few minutes of turning the cell on, the SWG display will stabilize at ~3200ppm salt; 22.8V; 4.71A. But, as the minutes go by, the salt level will slowly creep down after 20-30 minutes, until it goes below 2900ppm, at which time the LO SALT will start flickering, then it will completely shut down as the salt level goes down <2850ppm.

I've read through some of the older forum posts and some have suggested this may be a flow switch problem, but with Circupool, the flow switch is sold as a "Generic Flow Switch" with no apparent salt measurement ability (maybe I'm wrong about that function?). This raises another question in my mind - how are salt levels measured with the Circupool system? It must be in the SWG cell itself?

I have a bunch of questions that I have no answers to: Should I kick the salt level of the pool up to the upper range - like 3800-3900ppm? Is this 2-year old cell that I have taken very good care of just dying? Or what am I missing here? Any ideas or suggestions on what I should do?

Thanks in Advance for any ideas!

Main filter pump breaker tripped

Thanks!
So, replacing single speed Whisperflo and installing Whisperflo VST:
1--Remove black and red wires from the pump relay and connect them directly to pump breaker.

No. Slide the black and red wires from the pump under the other side of the LINE screws.

The relay LINE screws will then have two wires - one from the circuit breaker and one from the VST pump.
2--Connect green and yellow wires from automation cable from pump to COMM port on surge board.

Yes.

3-- Do you keep all the wires connected to the J20 COMM port (two reds, two yellows, two greens, two blacks, coming from the salt board and the antenna) alone? Leave them connected right whwere they are?

Leave them as is.

4--Do you keep the white and yellow wires (coming from the large transformer)connected to the relay?

Yes, to the LOAD side of the relay.

5--Anything else?
Do you understand the relay screws LINE and LOAD?

Relays have four screws - LINE1, LOAD1, LINE2 LOAD2.

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Friend bought house with pool *updated*

So went and checked it out and gave him my test kit as I have a new one showing up Monday. As I expected the CYA tested off the chart. I did it three times to confirm and it was almost completely clouded out after only a couple 'squirts'. The attached picture was the lowest test and its halfway to 100 from the bottom. The owner left a log of the pool service he had been using ($130 a month) and it was serviced last 2 weeks ago. There was a couple small chunks in the floater but the sample didn't even turn color when adding the powder for FC drop test.
FC: 0
PH: 8
CYA: High
CH: 750
The sand filter was replaced new in 2023.
The pump didn't have receipt for replacement so I'm guessing it might be original?
The heater is broken and was deemed not repairable by the pool inspector.
The pool was drained and had a bunch of work done in 2017 for re-pebble and tile and new plumbing to include autofill
We estimated at about 15,000 gallons off quick measurements but he's going to confirm depth and better measurements tonight.
The auto was running the constantly the couple hours I was there. It was 30mph winds and in direct 95 degree sun all day but mine doesn't do that in the same conditions. Told him to get a bucket and showed him how to shut off auto fill and do bucket test.
I've never had to deal with algae so don't know for sure what it is but the returns all had orangish brown below them that could be brushed off. I'd assume it's been at 0 FC for quite a while. Pictures are in next post.
So it's looking like a minimum of 50-60% water exchange to get CYA down?

Does the spa get water through autofill or does the valve have to be open to the return jets to keep the level up?

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StaRite 400 Heater woes....

My heater is wired to a jandylink rs6 panel, and normally when I press the heater button, it turns on like it always has for years....until it didn't......

Here's where I am at...

1. Replaced the relay, no luck
2. The heater button on the panel does not illuminate when I press it, the panel is in service mode btw....
3. I moved the hot wire of the heater to another breaker that was not in use and when I flip it on, still no power on the heater control panel membrane, i verified 110v power is present
4. There are 2 low voltage wires going to the jandy panel, i'm guessing this is for temperature readings?
5. i do have a replacement membrane panel as mine is all cracked, I'm going to proceed with replacing that.

Aside from all of this, can anyone think of any ideas why this heater won't power on?

Pool lights stopped working, PX300, iAqualink RS

It seems I should see 120v correct?
Let's slow down here.

By "Control Box" you mean the Aqualink relay?

Looking back at your post, you never found 120V at the transformer. I thought you did.

Go back to your Aqualink panel. Start at the relay that controls the lights.

Post pictures of your open Aqualink panel showing the wiring, breakers, and relays.

Find the wires in the Jandy that are attached to the relay that controls lighting. Then with the lights turned "on" at the Jandy, test those same color wires at the transformer. It should be 120V.

Test if there is 120V going into that relay, it should be at terminal 1 or 3 and to ground or neutral bar.

If not, is there voltage coming at the breaker? Test from the terminal to neutral or ground. Is the breaker tripped?

Is it a GFCI breaker?

Is there a GFCI in the light circuit that is tripped? If there is one on the side of the Jandy cabinet, the lights may have been wired through it and it tripped.
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