CYA is the death of me with Taylor 2006C

Got a new liner, filled the water, did the math, poured the liquid CYA....

waited a couple days.....digital tests at 2 various pool stores ranged from 25-40.....last three though were 25,28, and 27.....I can't tell if i can see the dot or not when I do Taylor...Even when I got my third 27ppm...I added 20 oz of liquid stabalizer, still got the same results from the pool store....I have to be really close to 30....have ABG vinyl above ground pool (not salt)....am I close enough to 30?!?!
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Tenatious Black Algae in 28-year old PebbleTec Finish Pool

I followed the TFP Black Algae treatment instructions, using the Pool Math calculator. I kept the FC elevated during a week of brushing and for a week or more thereafter. The algae retreated a little, but never disappeared until winter. Then I retreated. I was unaware of the need to run FC high forever. Is the rough surface making this more difficult?

Del Ozone 25 module issues?

It is for an outdoor pool. The first couple years we had our pool, it never needed more than .5ppm in chlorine. Sometimes I would run completely out and it would be fine a few days. Lately (past couple years) I have to keep the chlorine really high all the time and as soon as it drops, I start getting algae. Assumed it was due to the modules no longer working on ozone generator, or the generic fusion replacement cartridges I have been buying.
Here’s the spiel on ozone. We don’t recommend Jt’s use.

CYA is the death of me with Taylor 2006C

Got a new liner, filled the water, did the math, poured the liquid CYA....

waited a couple days.....digital tests at 2 various pool stores ranged from 25-40.....last three though were 25,28, and 27.....I can't tell if i can see the dot or not when I do Taylor...Even when I got my third 27ppm...I added 20 oz of liquid stabalizer, still got the same results from the pool store....I have to be really close to 30....have ABG vinyl above ground pool (not salt)....am I close enough to 30?!?!
The pool store isn’t any better at the test than you. Fill up the dial to 30 mark and check if you can see the dot or not. If you can’t, it’s 30ppm. Don’t fill in between the lines on the tube.
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Two steps forward, four steps back

You must drain the water to add the pavers if you have started filling. When you do this be sure to bury them so their tops are flush with the ground the pool bottom is sitting on.
All the legs should be level each way (all around) - you just have to keep adjusting them as the pool fills.
Thank you for the insight. The link has great
info as well. Now I know the legs will expand with the pool!

New rj60+ only works at 100% pump speed (2500) stops at all other speeds randomly

You likely have algae, even if you can't see it.

How are you testing your water? If you don't have a proper test kit, order one now. Link-->Test Kits Compared
If you have one, post a full set of results. FC, CC, pH, TA, CH, CYA, Salt.

If you have one, do this test tonight. Link-->Overnight Chlorine Loss Test
If you fail, you SLAM. Link-->SLAM Process
Testkit should be delivered tomorrow. I post more when I know it.
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Tenatious Black Algae in 28-year old PebbleTec Finish Pool

Welcome to TFP.

I have given it multiple TFP black algae treatments over the past 3 years. The algae disappears in winter, but is already coming back in May with FC at 6 or higher and CYA at 65
Exactly what are the TFP black algae treatments you have done?

Current recommendations are:


Gently scrape a sample of the suspected black algae with your fingernail and then smudge it on plain white paper. If the smudge scrapes off and is a greenish color, then it’s black algae.

For Black Algae, you will have to disrupt the surface of the algae physically. You can use a wire brush or if it is just a few spots, put on a mask and snorkel, go into the pool, and pick at it with a bamboo BBQ skewer.

If you have more than just a few spots, get in the pool with a weak pressure washer, and you can use that to blast away the BA.

After physically disrupting the BA, you should dose it with Liquid Chlorine. Get the strongest LC you can find, and if the BA is close to the edges, pour the chlorine down the side where it washes over where the BA used to be. If the BA is all over the place, you can fill a 1-gallon pump sprayer, get into the pool, and spray those spots. And yes, you can do this all underwater.

Then you must keep your FC at 20% of CYA for the next several weeks.

This is the part that sucks; run your FC on the high side in the future at a minimum of 12% of CYA; 15% is better to try and keep the black algae at bay.


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Messed up slamming my pool

Hi all, so I really messed up. I had to slam my pool and the pool math app said to use 5 gallons, but I didn't check the percentage of the chlorine. It was for 6% and I used 12%. So I added twice as much as I should have and now my chlorine level is 40. Do I just wait it out? Will this damage my pool? Do I add in some fresh water while draining it? TIA
You are likely fine. What is your CYA?

Pool was leaking, owner drained it, pipe in concrete wall-need help.

Welcome to TFP.

What do you think you are looking for in opening up the gunite walls?

Schedule 40 PVC does not crack in the walls of a pool.

A glued joint may leak in Schedule 40 plumbing, but only an insane plumber puts a glued joint within the gunite walls.

If you have a leak it is often around a penetration in the wall - return pipes, skimmers, lights.

Or the leak is outside of the pool in the pipes that run from the shell to the equipment pad. Again, it's likely a bad glue joint.

I think you are damaging the pool with your surgery.

Bad Plaster Job?

Last May I had my 25,000 gunite pool replastered, followed all maintenance instructions, with no issues. I opened pool last week and while removing the plugs from the return I noticed the walls were rough and not smooth as they were after the job was finished and throughout the season last year. Also, my Dolphin robot has been picking up a lot of what appears to be white looking sand. I have had sand in the pool before due to the filter but it was more of a brown color and below the returns. I was just told they use sand in the replastering jobs. Is this a result of a poor job ? Thanks
Another thought is that is possibly a bad tile job.

CYA is the death of me with Taylor 2006C

Got a new liner, filled the water, did the math, poured the liquid CYA....

waited a couple days.....digital tests at 2 various pool stores ranged from 25-40.....last three though were 25,28, and 27.....I can't tell if i can see the dot or not when I do Taylor...Even when I got my third 27ppm...I added 20 oz of liquid stabalizer, still got the same results from the pool store....I have to be really close to 30....have ABG vinyl above ground pool (not salt)....am I close enough to 30?!?!

Messed up slamming my pool

Hi all, so I really messed up. I had to slam my pool and the pool math app said to use 5 gallons, but I didn't check the percentage of the chlorine. It was for 6% and I used 12%. So I added twice as much as I should have and now my chlorine level is 40. Do I just wait it out? Will this damage my pool? Do I add in some fresh water while draining it? TIA

Tenatious Black Algae in 28-year old PebbleTec Finish Pool

Hello. I'm wondering if the source of my seemingly incurable black algae problem on north-facing wall and shallow-to-deep transition is the roughness of my 28-year-old PebbleTech surface and increasingly warm water temperatures in Central Florida - currently water is at 91F. I have given it multiple TFP black algae treatments over the past 3 years. The algae disappears in winter, but is already coming back in May with FC at 6 or higher and CYA at 65

The pool is 21,000 gal. It is clear and bright, with a DE filter and variable speed pump running 12 hrs/day. Clorination is by SWC, supplemented by liquid or tablets, and is maintained at 6 PPM, except when following the TFP black algae treatment routine, which I have done multiple times. It uses a robotic cleaner. Phosphates are in the 100 to 250 range. Pool gets very little use. I fully understand the TFP approach to pool chemistry and have been diligently following it for three years. I've tried various size stainless steel and other brushes (pro-tuff). I suspect they don't reach deeply enough into the aged surface. I have not tried a pressure washer. I don't currently have one, and would be interested in what sizes have been successful. Thanks for your help

Hi looking forward to learning

Hi all, I’m Kristi and I’m so glad I found this forum!
I’m pretty new to pools but am working on building myself a pond and maybe even a “natural” swimming pond/pool at some point.
I’m in South Texas and man the rock here is no joke and coupled with the heat, trying to work outside can be exhausting, whew!

I’m found this forum trying to help a neighbor with a pool leak and look forward to learning more about all the things.
I told him upfront that I know little to nothing about pools, but I’ve done small ponds, can work a mansonry saw and know a bit about plumbing so… happy to see if I can help….but I’ve quickly realized that while many pools are similar, the things that make them different can throw a substantial change in how things should be done moving forward, how they actually work and how much it costs. Who knew pool builders actually would cover pvc in concrete 🥴.
I’m happy to roll up my sleeves and do the work, but I’m also smart enough to know that I need the experts at times to help guide the way.
Looking forward to learning and who knows, maybe I’ll be able to help someone else too.

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