Chloride production set at 80+%?

Do you have a test kit to measure all the parameters of your water chemistry? There is more to consider here. You have a large pool and your CYA could be low so this might be a good setting for right now.
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I only have test strips at home now that I just purchased. I will need to invest in TFPro-Salt . Thank you for the info!

Opening pool and salt level

What levels are the most important to get balanced first?

ph and chlorine

I don't want to add too much at once and make things worse.

Depends what levels you are starting with at the opening.
The water right now looks clear.

And adding chlorine ASAP will keep it clear.

Also I tested my salt level with the Taylor kit at it says 2800, but my sensor on my display says 2000. My salt cell wants 2700-3400 should I add more salt? It's only been half a day since adding the salt so I know I need to wait longer to let it circulate.
I would add salt in batches to get your Taylor test up to 3600 and see if your Aquarite gets over 2800 and begins generating.

Right now you are borderline on your cell being worn out.

solar heater questions

height - we have a 1.15hp pump. will it really be able to send the water up 12-15 feet to the roof? i imagine almost full power will be needed. i dont expect there will be loss of pressure at the returns because the water will gain some velocity in coming back down, right?

The effort pumping the water up top a roof is offset by the gravity assist of the water flowing down.

Your 1.5 HP pump may do fine at 2/3 speeds.

stagnancy - if you dont run water through the solar pipes, does the water which is sitting in there from being primed stagnate?

Solar systems should use a non-sealing valve to allow water to drain from the panels when not in use.

durability - i was shocked to see these tubing panels frequently come with 10 year plus warranties. how can black rubber that gets beat on by the sun not break down sooner??

Some panels use higher quality materials than others.

in that same vein, i understand you can leave it on the roof for winter? wouldnt snow piling, and freeze thaw cause them to break down as well? we live in ontario, canada and can get quite harsh winters
Solar systems need to be adequately drained and winterized.

Read Solar Pool Heaters - Further Reading

@Dirk can give you more color when he drops by.
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Opened pool, tested CYA with it possibly being under 30

Yes. For salt, CYA and CH

TA / PH and FC are mixed well in 15 to 30 mins depending on circulation and you can dose accordingly after.

I like 10 FC. If you retained any CYA (likely with closing @ SWG levels), 10 FC is a little over target range and once you start mixing/brushing you can lose a couple FC to the crud or the sun and still be good.

If you lost all your CYA, 10 FC is slam level so no harm done.

3 years in and still learning, thank you!
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Concrete and Plaster Patch Recommendations

Hey, I'm on my second summer with a pool and I'd like to get some recommendations and tips for products/techniques to repair some DIY plaster and concrete. The pictures show three things I'm looking to resolve:
1. There are a few spots on the bottom of the pool that are circular cracks that I don't want to expand
2. The concrete grouting between the deck and the pool tiles is breaking up in places
3. There are some cracks in the concrete pool deck that I'd like to fill, and in places where rubberized filling was used, it's starting to get brittle and break apart.

Let me know your thoughts on DIY'ing those different jobs or if you think I'm in over my head.

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IC40 Diagnostics Question

t,

That cell has to be about a million years old.. :mrgreen:

I've never seen a cell with the 'life' button...

Most cells last 5 to 7 years, I think your cell is telling you it is old and wants to retire.. :poke:

In more recent cells, a flashing 'cell' light, when the cell is clean, means that it has run out of the ability to produce chlorine..

Until recently I had three saltwater pools, so I've been through about 4 or 5 cells.. All of them failed exactly the same way.. The cell light would start flashing.. If I turned it off and on, it might run ok for a while, but within a couple of days, the cell light would start flashing again.

Sorry for your loss,

Jim R.

propane tank size questions

Have you considered solar heating? Is that a thing in AZ? I'm in Central CA. I get about 5-10° extra each day during swim season, and maybe a couple extra weeks on each side of swim season. It wouldn't heat the pool enough in the winter though. I installed it myself and saved $7K. And now it costs me nothing to heat my pool.

It's not the the best way to get a pool warmer, but the price is right! And it allows me to swim more days and hours than without it. It was a good ROI.
I've seen the things on people's roofs before and from what I understand they do work well. Especially when combined with a cover. I have not considered it though. Something to look into
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propane tank size questions

I'd be concerned that the free gas heater was "free" because it's on its last leg.
How old is the gas heater?
What condition is it in?
Any rust?

Have you checked local codes yet about burying a propane tank in the front yard in a residential neighborhood.
What kind of permitting will be required?
I did a remodel for a client about 3 years ago that took 2 years to accomplish. They finished the pool less than 2 years ago. The client never moved in. Someone else recently bought the house, I'm going to remodel it again.

Pool is being remodeled too and all the equipment is going to be replaced with new equipment. It's wild but that's what I do for a living. I redo the same work over and over again. It's feasible that the heater was turned on 2x but likely never used.

I have not checked on permits or whatever but the propane company will be able to help with all of that. My plumber can trench a line and we will get that inspected.

New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

TP.

Well, I guess the buttons could be bad, or you could just try a little patience... :mrgreen:

I am not there of course, but it kind of sounds like I initially had the same issue..

When I push the start button... there is no light that turns on, so it seems like it is not working.. but, if you look closely at the constant power light.. It will quickly blink once or twice. Then it takes another few seconds for the robot to respond.. Pushing the button again will just turn it off..

In any case, if bad, Marina will take care of it.. Let's give it a day or so to make sure it is actually bad.

I have found that if I use the app.. it is worse.. for lack of feedback that what you asked it to do it being done.. :(

Dust wise, it will take several cycles to get it all cleaned up and then the 'dust' problem should go away.. I assume you are using the extra fine basket???

Thanks,

Jim R.
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IC40 Diagnostics Question

Hello! It's been awhile since I've hopped on here, but I use the Pool Calculator app alot! I've always appreciated TFP.
I did search for this issue on google and this forum, but the search bots seem to want to talk about the salt level being low :) So here's my issue:
I have a Pentair IC40 SWG that has lasted me quite some time (7, 8, 9 years), and the Life cell was blinking last year, so I know my time is short.
Yesterday, I removed the dummy cell and connected the SWG cell, and fired it up. I had already balanced the pool and added some salt per my test strips, but figured I may need to add another bag or two.
The SWG was happy enough to give me the yellow Check Salt light and I ran it most of the day, but the red Low light came on in the evening so I shut the pool down.
I added another bag of salt this morning and started the SWG again, and the Life and Good lights now flash alternately (I'm attaching a pic (6469) where my camera caught the Good light lit, but it alternates between the Good light and the Life light).
I held the More button to enter diagnostics, and the red Low light lights and stays lit, along with the green Pwr, Cell, and Life lights. (Pic attached, 6470). My 60% and 80% 'bulbs' have been out for some time (but the 20, 40, and 100% bulbs do work), so I'm not really sure what the bottom row would otherwise show.
So I'm just wondering if I'm out of luck and now have a bad cell, even though it seemed to work yesterday until the red Low light came on?
Thanks as always for any help!

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What kind of pool light is this?

We need to know the size of the light. Nothing in the picture provides any scale to jud.

There are three circles. What is the size of each? The inner lense? The inner ring with about 8 screws? And the outer plastic ring?

I'm sorry! I should have thought about that.

Here are the measurements:

Outer ring is 3 in

Inner ring with the screws is about 2 in

Bulb is about 1.5 in

It is a vinyl liner pool. The pool equipment pad is probably about 25 feet or less from the furthest light. I believe the wiring goes to there.

I hope that's all you need. Please let me know if you need anything else.

If there are any multi-color lights you would suggest for reliability and ease of mainteance i'd be really appreciative! Especially, if you have links to where i can purchase it as well. Thank you so much!!

Switching to a VS Pump Today - What to know?

I upgraded to the Easytouch automation a few years ago and it slipped my mind!!
D,

That makes it easy... :mrgreen:

I would go with a 3 HP IntelliFlo3....


I am not sure what HP pump you have now, but the bigger the better when using a VS pump.. This is because the bigger the pump, the slower you can run it and still move a lot of water.
The slower it runs, the less it costs, and the quieter it will be.

I never, ever recommend a smaller VS pump..

Thanks,

Jim R.

Leaky diverter

So, here's my layout, showing all the Pentair diverters used:
The three right diverters (closed) come from the skimmers and the deep end.
The three left (open) go to the jets.
The one single allows for discharge to waste before it gets to the filter (waste line closed in the pic).

(The loop by the SWCG is just because the heater is dead, and waiting for an install).

Pump looses prime at low speeds. Filter self empties, when at lower speeds. With system off, a full filter gurgles, and rapidly fills with air.
Placing my hand over the waste pipe end (obscured in the photo) and I get a pretty good suction as the filter self drains. The waste diverter is closed, as in the pic. With the six inputs/outputs closed, draining and suction stop.

So it appears the bad boy is that Pentair diverter for the waste line. No water leaks when under pressure, but allows air in when not pressurized. And it has to be a fair amount of pressure, since the system runs dry at lower speeds.

I, of course, will take it apart to see if there is any debris in it. And apply lube.
When new, this valve did leak water. A call to the installer, and they replaced all the guts, but not the housing. No more leak.
Operated well all last year, so too late for another call back.
Should I just embrace the pain, and replace the whole thing (which means filter fitting too, since there is not room to splice in)?
Any other advice?

(apologies for the lack of cleanup - was gone over the winter, and just arrived back a few days ago - so whole yard winter leaf/debris cleanup is in process!)

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