Metals in my pool

[Lykebu]

Until you have a proper test kit, add 5 ppm FC worth of liquid chlorine each day. Pump running.

I'm SORRY for my ignorance, how do you measure and add 5ppm? How much is 5ppm in oz,gal or lbs?

 

[JamesR]

For a 17,000 gallon pool. One gallon of fresh 10% chlorine will give you roughly 6ppm of chlorine.

 

[mknauss]

I'm SORRY for my ignorance, how do you measure and add 5ppm? How much is 5ppm in oz,gal or lbs?

Great time to learn to use PoolMath

 

[Lykebu]

For a 17,000 gallon pool. One gallon of fresh 10% chlorine will give you roughly 6ppm of chlorine.

You are wonderful, thank you! I need to know exact measurements since I'm new to all this so this helps alot.

 

[JamesR]

Like Marty mentioned, the PoolMath app is great. You can use the “effects of adding” feature in it to select any chemical added and what the result will be. Here is a screenshot for adding 1 gallon of 10% bleach to a 17k gallon pool ;

 

[Lykebu]

Like Marty mentioned, the PoolMath app is great. You can use the “effects of adding” feature in it to select any chemical added and what the result will be. Here is a screenshot for adding 1 gallon of 10% bleach to a 17k gallon pool ;

I am new to using the app so I am still trying to figure out how to do this math, did you go to menu and add chemicals then calculate? I think I need to subscribe to get these exact measurements? Also do you know how long I need to wait to add cl since I just used metal out to lower copper in my water? Store said to wait 24hrs other sites say 3days, I do not want to stain my pool or make it turn green.

 

[Brian PacNW]

So for now just 10% liquid chlorine? I ordered the kit. Pool Math suggested 126oz of 10% bleach jug size 96oz. Does this make sense?

126 fl oz would indeed raise a 17k pool’s free chlorine by about 5.8 ppm.

 

[Mdragger88]

I am new to using the app so I am still trying to figure out how to do this math, did you go to menu and add chemicals then calculate? I think I need to subscribe to get these exact measurements?

Go here

Then here

Then put in your pool volume & bleach strength here

Or you can do this

Without a subscription it will only keep 1 log at a time-

Also do you know how long I need to wait to add cl since I just used metal out to lower copper in my water? Store said to wait 24hrs other sites say 3days, I do not want to stain my pool or make it turn green.

Was it green or had stains before you used the metal out? If not then 5ppm per day is fine it is certainly not enough to reach shock/slam level- just enough to keep the pool from getting worse & replace what is lost each day until your kit comes.

Btw- The metal out doesn’t remove the copper- it just hides it. The only way to remove it is to replace the copper laden water with fresh water.
They sell 10% strength liquid chlorine at Walmart, lowes, Home Depot, ace hardware, menards etc. in the pool section.
Get several gallons.

 

[Lykebu]

Go here
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Then here
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Then put in your pool volume & bleach strength here
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Or you can do this

Without a subscription it will only keep 1 log at a time-

Was it green or had stains before you used the metal out? If not then 5ppm per day is fine it is certainly not enough to reach shock/slam level- just enough to keep the pool from getting worse & replace what is lost each day until your kit comes.

Btw- The metal out doesn’t remove the copper- it just hides it. The only way to remove it is to replace the copper laden water with fresh water.
They sell 10% strength liquid chlorine at Walmart, lowes, Home Depot, ace hardware, menards etc. in the pool section.
Get several gallons.

Lol thank you! I did figure it out and I’ve been using. I appreciate your help. So since you’ve been on this site you’ve had great experience and results? Less money spent?

 

[Mdragger88]

Lol thank you! I did figure it out and I’ve been using. I appreciate your help. So since you’ve been on this site you’ve had great experience and results? Less money spent?

It’s all I have ever used since I had a teeny tiny pool many years ago. Thank goodness too because I couldn’t ever really afford to be “pool stored”.
Here’s a great thread for your evening reading, my testimonial is in there.

I knew I was Pool Stored when...

With the influx of springtime new members rolling in, oddly, I found myself astounded at the number of members that have been Pool Stored. I don't know why it struck me this year, after helping so many that have been pool stored in the past, and even having the username PoolStored, but...

www.troublefreepool.com

And a little bit about what, why, & how we do things

What is TFPC?

We believe any pool owner can achieve and maintain safe, crystal clear pool water, by using the science-based, Trouble Free Pool Care (TFPC) methodology.

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[JamesR]

Lol thank you! I did figure it out and I’ve been using. I appreciate your help. So since you’ve been on this site you’ve had great experience and results? Less money spent?

Since following the basic TFP approach years ago, I have not been back to the pool store, stopped having algae outbreaks, stopped spending a fortune on useless chemicals, potions, additives, algecides, , clarifiers, filter aids...
I accurately test my own water, and maintain it myself. It’s always crystal clear and sanitized.

 

[Lykebu]

Since following the basic TFP approach years ago, I have not been back to the pool store, stopped having algae outbreaks, stopped spending a fortune on useless chemicals, potions, additives, algecides, , clarifiers, filter aids...
I accurately test my own water, and maintain it myself. It’s always crystal clear and sanitized.

Wow! I am amazed by the testimonials, I thought I couldn't do anything without the stores, I have spent $1000 so far in the 3 months I have the pool. So I hope this site will help me and I can keep using it. I don't ever want to set foot in the store again. But I plan to go to walmart tomorrow and get the gallons of liquid cl and SLAM my pool for the first time, please stay around to help me lol.

 

[Lykebu]

Go here
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Then here
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Then put in your pool volume & bleach strength here
View attachment 521856
Or you can do this

Without a subscription it will only keep 1 log at a time-

Was it green or had stains before you used the metal out? If not then 5ppm per day is fine it is certainly not enough to reach shock/slam level- just enough to keep the pool from getting worse & replace what is lost each day until your kit comes.

Btw- The metal out doesn’t remove the copper- it just hides it. The only way to remove it is to replace the copper laden water with fresh water.
They sell 10% strength liquid chlorine at Walmart, lowes, Home Depot, ace hardware, menards etc. in the pool section.
Get several gallons.

I definitely will get it tomorrow, so the best time to start doing the SLAM is at night or should I use it as soon as I get it? My store results shows my Alkalinity is 104, store told me to add more alkaline, I am not sure the difference between TA and adjusted alkalinity-91 and just Alkalinity-104, should I add more alkaline?

 

[mknauss]

I definitely will get it tomorrow, so the best time to start doing the SLAM is at night or should I use it as soon as I get it? My store results shows my Alkalinity is 104, store told me to add more alkaline, I am not sure the difference between TA and adjusted alkalinity-91 and just Alkalinity-104, should I add more alkaline?

Until you have a proper test kit, add 5 ppm FC worth of liquid chlorine each day. Pump running.

 

[Mdragger88]

As Marty mentioned- only add the 5ppm (1gal of 10%) of liquid chlorine each day until your kit comes in. Nothing else. No baking soda.
This is not doing the SLAM Process as that requires testing with the kit. This is just to keep things from getting out of hand until then.
When your kit comes do all the tests & post the results here.

 

[Lykebu]

As Marty mentioned- only add the 5ppm (1gal of 10%) of liquid chlorine each day until your kit comes in. Nothing else. No baking soda.
This is not doing the SLAM Process as that requires testing with the kit. This is just to keep things from getting out of hand until then.
When your kit comes do all the tests & post the results here.

I will definitely do that starting tomorrow, going to walmart first thing to get pool essentials liq cl and start there, my kit arrives wednesday.

 

[Mdragger88]

I will definitely do that starting tomorrow, going to walmart first thing to get pool essentials liq cl and start there, my kit arrives wednesday.

Your pool needs chlorine every day.
If you all you have on hand is the cal hypo you can add 5ppm of that now. It just shouldn’t be used in large amounts & you should switch to liquid chlorine tomorrow.
Use
PoolMath

 

[Lykebu]

Your pool needs chlorine every day.
If you all you have on hand is the cal hypo you can add 5ppm of that now. It just shouldn’t be used in large amounts & you should switch to liquid chlorine tomorrow.
Use
PoolMath
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Really? Well they had told me to wait 3 days after using metal out to add anything else, thats why I was waiting until tomorrow

 

[Mdragger88]

Really? Well they had told me to wait 3 days after using metal out to add anything else, thats why I was waiting until tomorrow

Show us which metal out product you used.

 

[mknauss]

metal out

Remember, that product does not 'remove' the metals. It hides them, for a while. The sequestrant will wear out. To rid the pool of metals, it must be drained and refilled with metal free water.