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Expert in Cordless Pool Cleaning Robots – Tips & Recommendations for Purchase and Discussion

Newdude
Dragons Den said:
your 65,000 gallon pool is easily double the size of my 20×40 30,000 gallon rectangle pool. I understand your frustration in finding a good robot for your application.
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@PGQ24 did you look at the commercial robots such as the Wave models from Maytronics/Dolphin ?

Like everything else there is a substantial bump in price getting a commercial model but you're well beyond what should be expected from a residential cleaner IMO.
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Is it worth buying a large container of R-0870?

HermanTX
I rinse my scoop after each use. I just spray some pool sample water on it and let it dry before putting back into kit.

I only seen the 10gram and a 1/4 lb of R-0870 powder. Taylor Technologies website only shows those 2 sizes.

I think I would just purchase 2 or 3 bottles of the 10gram size and open as needed.

I do not think the larger size will go bad but it may get clunky so would have to pound on it to pour into a 10gram container.
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Pentair Warrior SI - No power at robot

Jimrahbe
Eva,

How old is the robot??

Sounds like the cable might be bad.. Most likely at the swivel..

Unfortunately, it could also be a flooded motor box... :cry:

You can buy and replace the cable, but they are expensive, and I would not invest any money in a robot that is over 3 years old.

See this review...

New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

About a month ago I needed a new robot pool cleaner and I contacted Margaret at Marina Pool and Spa. My initial goal was to buy another S200 "style" robot as I have been happy with them so far. Margaret suggested that I might want to look at a new line of robot cleaners that Marina is now...
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Thanks,

Jim R.
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Please recommend a VS Pump best suited for my config

R
1poolman1 said:
To get the best performance for your pool, you need a big (2.7 or larger) high-head VSP. Your P4 will only "talk" to a Hayward VSP. The Hayward SuperPump you have now is a medium-head, 2-speed, 1hp (1.50 total horsepower based on the rating plate) pump to begin with. Basically, as you have experienced, a medium-head pump can't overcome the resistance that a high-head one can (dirty filter, etc), though you can stop any pump eventually. It is worse on your pumps low speed.

Published pump curves seem to indicate that the Calimar 3hp VSP is a high-head pump. With the addition of an automation adapter (about $50.00 US) you could have some control with your automation.

As to service, that may be another issue as they are not sold through normal pool-parts distributors. So, many pool companies may not be familiar with them or willing to work on one if they can't source, and then get a warranty on, parts. Many who have posted on this site are very happy with them.
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That’s my concern on both being able to get the calimer serviced, does it use parts that are interchangeable with Hayward or does it used non proprietary type parts that can be sourced?

Which automation adapter are you referring to and what does that allow me to do? Can you link it and tell me where most people are ordering the Calimer from please.

Alternatively I could look for a use rebuilt Hayward VSP, is there a specific model you recommend I look for? That will help a lot in my search.

My P4 isn’t compatible with an internet app and the modules to add one on is astronomical in cost, do any of these VSP pumps provide that functionality or will it drive up my cost too much? I am being used though if I go Hayward.
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Stains all over pool

R
Woke up to a bunch of rust looking stains in my pool. Took a water sample to my local pool store and they said I had a lot fo copper in my water. I attached the report. I do have a lot of trees surrounding my pool and mulch bed with sprinklers (I attached pics so you can see the set up). That might be the problem? Anyways any advice on how to remove the stains would greatly be appreciated.
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Question about backfilling wait time on new construction

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I am in the process of having a new pool installed in Oklahoma City. My builder is saying that they can backfill the shell with dirt the day after the gunite is shot. I figured there would need to be some cure time before they do this. We have red dirt clay soil. Also another question we are doing Hydrazzo for our pool finish how long should the shell cure before this is shot. Thanks in Advance.
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Expert in Cordless Pool Cleaning Robots – Tips & Recommendations for Purchase and Discussion

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PGQ24 said:
Dragon Den, robots have a diminish return on investment.
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That's true of all appliances. They'll always be a net expense in exchange for convenience.

Some appliances will always last longer than others, for example we purchased a Speed Queen washer and dryer in 2009. Both still running. 100% analog outlives pretty much anything with digital controls. Simple is almost always the best choice.

Looking at your information, your 65,000 gallon pool is easily double the size of my 20×40 30,000 gallon rectangle pool. I understand your frustration in finding a good robot for your application. Perhaps you can purchase two robots and drop one in each end and see what happens? At any rate, that's a lot of cubic feet of pool to clean.

But you're right about all the marketing hype and model number manipulation. That makes it difficult to make an informed decision.

What robots have you tried so far?
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Failure to prime

P
I'm trying to help out a friend. He bought a house with a half-in ground vinyl lined pool. Of course, the pool was closed when he purchased it. (you can see where this is going).

He paid someone to open the pool for him, and at open the vendor suggested that there might be a problem in the lines was there was some water in the skimmer that shouldn't have been there. He tried filling the pool, but it kept failing to fill above the return line. Pool vendor suggested that there is a leak and he wouldn't have time to do that kind of extensive work until June. Enter me.

I opened the panel behind the pool and low and behold, yea...there was a leak - because when closing, the prior owner disconnected the return, and sealed from there. I suppose that since this a very small and simple setup (approx 6K-10K gallons by my estimate) with a single skimmer and single return, they used the return to act a drain and keep the water level from overflowing the pool. I reconnected the piping, filled the pool the rest of the way and presto. We were on to cleaning out all the gunk, algae and god knows what else.

And then...

I noticed that the pump was having trouble priming. Despite multiple bucket loads of water, it's still just dribbling in. I cleaned the filter and that improved things, but the pump basket is still not completely full, and seems to require intervention whenever the pump is off and it restarts by timer. Right now, we have it running 24x7 since we just started a SLAM. Any thoughts on the cause? I didn't think a dirty filter could be it...although cleaning it did solve some of the issue. It's a Hydrotools Cartridge filter (#70152), and a Hydrotools pump, model 71906. There's a Hayward chlorinator as well. I turned off the valves to the heater to keep things super simple - one line in, one line out.

Thanks.
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PVC Newbie - Having Trouble Getting Pipe to Fit in Fittings

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Hello All,

I had a pool for several years and have been following the TFP methods. I decided to try tackling hard plumbing this year; however, I am having all kinds of trouble getting pipe to properly set in fittings. I am using Oatey Purple Primer and Oatey Rain-R-Shine Blue PVC cement. The glue always seems to be gumming up and and I can't get the pipe fully inside before it locks up. I think I'm moving at a reasonable speed. Am I underestimating the pressure it takes to get it fully seated....maybe I'm just on strong enough and need my husband to do it?

How critical is it that it is fully seated? Is there product that is more forgiving that will stills work? I am using a ratcheting pipe cutter on 1 1/2 PVC...I am deburring. I am not chamfering...at least not well...is that crucial? All help and advice welcome! Thank you!!!
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Circupool RJ+ $10 Upgrade program gone???

Newdude
The RJ has adjustments down to 5%, which is nice for dailing it in. On the other hand, the core forces you to run hot as your choices are often either too much or too little production. Anyone who doesnt want things to go swampy picks too much.

The one time more difficult install wouldn't sway me. Future cell swaps for either are a 5 min job.
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