Go with Pentair SWG or Circupool RJ Series?

I have a 15,000-18,000 gallon pool and live in the Phoenix metro area.

My local pool shop recommends a Pentair system, since thats what they service. They have a special where they'll be selling pentair systems for a discount for the equipment and providing $100 install.
I don't feel confident to install a system on my own, particularly the electrical work.


I had a guy from the shop stop by my house, and he recommended the "40" sized Pentair SWG. Not sure if he means the IC40?

He said that they're willing to install a salt system I provide, so will install the circupool system... but will charge $450 for the installation

He also mentioned that I might need to install a timer? I was under the impression my pool pump already has a built in timer...Will a separate timer be necessary?

Also, what reasons are there to go with circupool vs pentair?
All the equipment I have already, is pentair. Pentair variable speed pump and filter.

Special Buy of the day AIPER SG PRO $350

Wait. There’s no need to rush.

Also, I highly recommend that you make sure your pool has an independent suction port like how it would be designed if you used a suction side vacuum. It can be added now to the design and it shouldn’t cost all that much extra (it’s just some extra PVC pipes and a valve) . Every pool, EVERY POOL, should have the ability to run a manual vacuum head without having to plug one into the skimmer. Robots and cleaners are great but they break and manual vacuuming is sometimes quicker and easier than rolling out the robot. It’s certainly your call, but I have always appreciated being able to manually clean my pool even when using robots or suction cleaners.

/rant-off
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Inspect Salt Cell

That message will come on every 30 days as a prompt to check the cell plates. You can remove the cell and physically inspect it. If you have some calcium scaling on it then try removing it with a wood or plastic tool. While Hayward says to use diluted acid to clean it that will remove some of the materials from the plates and shorten the cell life. If you must try something to dissolve it then a 10-1 vinegar solution would be better. If the plates are clean then just press and hold the selection button which will reset the warning for the next 30 days (maybe it's measured in hours of operations, I don't remember.)
what kind of a soak time with the vinegar? I do not want to use acid. my buddy does that with his new unit and I dont have his cash reserves ;)

New to me pool - Progress pics

*after the rain.

I manipulate the weather with my pool water level. If i want a big storm to fizzle out before it gets to me, I lower before and *poof*, I have to add water. If I want us to get a ton of rain because the grass needs it, I leave the pool full and *poof* i need to drain 6 inches. #lifehack. #Murphysucks.

My PB gave me a 3 way between the pump and cartridge filter for draining on my first pool before I knew anything about anything. I didn't use it often but when I did it really really came in handy. It's also great for vac to waste after big storms (kill 2 birds lowering the pool and getting rid of the crud) or heavy cleanup in the spring after slacking or being closed for the winter.

But yeah. It was high on the priority list for pool #2 after moving.
Do you think I need something like a Jandy 3 way valve for that, or can I just use a T, with a valve on the drain side only?

Water by Pool

We’ve had constant issues with our pool build here in NE San Antonio (clay) and our pool builder dropped us like a hot rock saying the water source was not the pool.
Irrigation, septic and house have all been ruled out.

We will have pressure testing redone next week. The Gunite wall where the wet/dry vac is pretty much crumbling. Not sure if it was too much to put in that wall. (Equalizer, skimmer, light…) Water in that hole and when we dug under it is but hard to tell where the water is coming from but looks like the direction of the pool.

Spa side has risen up - luckily not attached to our building.

I let the pool sit 24 hours with it off for a drop test and it doesn’t seem to lose too much.

Now I will do a drop test with it on tonight.

Any suggestions? Do soil injections work?

Thanks in Advance,
Kathy

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Hayward H400FDP Shuts Off With No Error Codes

Exhaust gas temperature limit:

The exhaust gas temperature limit monitors the flue gas temperature above the heat exchanger and trips if temperature rises high enough to indicate that the heat exchanger has been damaged and is no longer transferring heat to the pool water effectively.

If this limit trips, effort must be made to rectify the situation that has damaged the heat exchanger.

This is generally due to low water flow, poor water chemistry, or a combination of these and other factors.

Replace the limit as well as the heat exchanger before operating the unit again.

Running the unit without replacing the heat exchanger after this limit trips could damage the entire unit and will not be covered by Hayward’s warranty.

To replace the exhaust gas temperature limit:

1. Turn pump, gas supply, and heater power “OFF”.

2. Remove the upper end cap on the header side of the unit (see Figure 8).

3. Unplug the two wires from the exhaust gas temperature limit located in the flue collector panel above the middle of the header.

4. Unscrew the (2) screws securing the limit to the panel and remove the limit and gasket.

5. Place the new limit and gasket in place and reverse the above steps to complete the procedure.

Recommendations for new robot?

Call Marina Pool and Spa. They can give you the best recommendations based on your needs, they keep up on all the models. They have been good to TFP members. Oh, and because they are brick and mortar, you get the full warranty.

As for dust/dirt, you might find a model with "fine filter" option to be best for you...

[email protected]
303-985-0077
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HOA Pool

$5,000 to $6,000 per month
$5000 per month.
-400$ CPO Certification
-600-1000$ for inspection prep and pool inspection.

Leaves $3600-4000 / month in maintenance.
$120-133 / day.
$60-65 per visit, if twice a day.
Not sure how they make much money at that rate.
Does the 5-6K include all other maintenance expenses (pool pump repair etc.?)?
Does the expense include all the chemicals?
Does the maintenance company take all the liability of non-compliance...that alone may be worth the expense...

Question for Long Island NYers.

We put ours obnoxiously front and center to see it all the time. I was worried about the dogs falling through the ice the couple of times it freezes each year so we got a safety cover. The dogs were ripping the brand new cover so I had to safety fence the area to protect the cover which was meant to protect the dogs. :roll:

Not only do I want to enjoy looking at the pool, I really really want to stop looking at the keepaway9000.

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I hear ya. 🤣

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18 x 33 x 56" Semi-In Ground NJ

But the plumbing/equipment is the backbone of the trouble free operation. It's not exciting like fancy lounge chairs or pretty decking, so it's usually where folks skimp.
Speak for yourself I think the whole planning of this, and the mechanics is more exciting than a fancy chair! 😂😂😂😂. I'm sure I may think differently of that once we break ground but we'll see!

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