Hi all, we’re redoing our pool and have selected these teal half moon tiles below, and are now choosing a pool plaster color.

I love DB Midnight Blue because we live in a wooded area and I wanted more a dark lake vibe, as an aqua pool seemed too tropical. The problem is I’m worried the green undertones of the teal won’t sit well next to the midnight blue. For those with more experience, does that matter? Should we switch to a lighter plaster? The original owners had a basic ivory but I really do love that dark blue lagoon color.

Any thoughts welcome on if we’re overthinking it. Thanks in advance! This forum is a godsend.

I opened up my hot tub (2020 Marquis Euphoria) this afternoon, and there was debris on the floor. It looks like it is some type of flexible plastic. I first thought it was a piece of hose/vinyl tubing, but I don't seem to be losing water. Some of the bits look like there was writing on them. Has anyone seen this, or have any ideas? Thanks.

Hello all,

Apologies in advance for the long post.

I'm puzzled by the water flow in my pool's plumbing. When the main pump is running, all appears well, with no leaks visible anywhere near the exposed plumbing around the filter, pump, etc. I seldom need to add water except when it gets really hot, dry, or windy.

When the main pump is off, I hear gurgling sounds that suggest water is flowing out of the filter, back through the skimmer basket, and out to the pool, but I can't detect where in the pool any water is entering. Moreover, air is entering the water lines during this process. After sitting overnight, the skimmer basket has water up to the level of the input from the pool; i.e., it drains until it can't drain any more, with air filling the remainder of the basket. The gurgling sounds have stopped; no more water is running out of the filter. When the pump comes back on, it needs to re-prime itself, and every couple days or so, I have to bleed air out of the filter.

If I open the bleed valve on the top of the filter while the pump is off, air is sucked into the top of the filter as the water drains from it.

I'm trying to figure out where the air is entering the system and where the water from the filter is going when the pump is off, so I can "fix" it. Try as I might, I'm not getting it figured out, so I thought I'd stop by here to see if any of the experts can "solve" the puzzle for me.

I've attached a picture, below, of my exposed plumbing for reference.



Numbers in the picture correspond to water flows as follows:

1. Filter to heater
2. Filter from pump
3. Heater to pool and spa
4. To spa
5. To pool, fountain, vacuum
6. To fountain (note there is a check valve in this line)
7. Spa bubbler/blower (no water)
8. To fountain, after check valve (continuation of 6)
9. To pool, vacuum pump
10. To vacuum pump
11. To vacuum
12. Spa drain, pool skimmer basket, main drain to pump skimmer basket
13. From spa drain
14. From pool main drain
15. From pool skimmer basket

I've tried opening and closing various combinations of the Jandy valves when the pump is off and I get, to me, very confusing results. Examples follow.

If I close the valve at 12, presumably I cut off all flow back to the pool from the pump, but when I do, flow continues out of the filter!

If I close that same Jandy valve to 14 and 15, then flow stops. If I move that valve back to 12 and close the Jandy valve at 15 (theoretically prohibiting flow to both the pool skimmer basket an main drain, flow continues!

I've tried a few more combinations, but I'll stop here to seek any input or advice you folks might have. I'm willing to call in our pool service, but I really want to try to figure out what's going on, if I can, before I do.

Thanks for any insight.

I have a 15,000-18,000 gallon pool and live in the Phoenix metro area.

My local pool shop recommends a Pentair system, since thats what they service. They have a special where they'll be selling pentair systems for a discount for the equipment and providing $100 install.
I don't feel confident to install a system on my own, particularly the electrical work.


I had a guy from the shop stop by my house, and he recommended the "40" sized Pentair SWG. Not sure if he means the IC40?

He said that they're willing to install a salt system I provide, so will install the circupool system... but will charge $450 for the installation

He also mentioned that I might need to install a timer? I was under the impression my pool pump already has a built in timer...Will a separate timer be necessary?

Also, what reasons are there to go with circupool vs pentair?
All the equipment I have already, is pentair. Pentair variable speed pump and filter.

TinFoilHat said:

That message will come on every 30 days as a prompt to check the cell plates. You can remove the cell and physically inspect it. If you have some calcium scaling on it then try removing it with a wood or plastic tool. While Hayward says to use diluted acid to clean it that will remove some of the materials from the plates and shorten the cell life. If you must try something to dissolve it then a 10-1 vinegar solution would be better. If the plates are clean then just press and hold the selection button which will reset the warning for the next 30 days (maybe it's measured in hours of operations, I don't remember.)

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what kind of a soak time with the vinegar? I do not want to use acid. my buddy does that with his new unit and I dont have his cash reserves

Hello fellow pool owners! I am a fairly new pool owner in the Austin, TX area. Just got my pool built and started up in the end of December. Everything has been mostly ok, but there are a few issues I am yet to figure out, Looking forward to getting yall's opinions on some stuff.

Nice to find this community!