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Floating skimmer baskets when pump is on

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Mattikuss said:
I have a variable speed pump that I run at 2250 RPM
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That's high. What's the minimum speed that still satisfies the flow switch on your SWCG?

Mattikuss said:
my pump basket gets full of air
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Have you investigated the possibility of a suction side air leak? How bad is the problem? Can you post a picture?

Mattikuss said:
my wife complains of floating debris on top of the water
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More skimmer suction will help.

Mattikuss said:
My skimmer baskets are always lifting out of the housing.
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Put a rock in the skimmer basket. Make sure it's larger than the skimmer suction pipe in the bottom so it can't go into the pipe by accident.

Mattikuss said:
should I be closing the drain off so all the suction is going through the skimmers?
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That would help maximize the effectiveness of your skimmer(s). Do you have a reason to pull water from the main drain?
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When to remove water (from rain fall)

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Newdude said:
The drains dont circulate the water any better than the skimmers do and aren't needed. Skimming on the other hand makes a huge difference in day to day operations so put most of the suction from the skimmers so they do their job better.



Go look at the valve when you're free and see the label that says closed. Turn that label towards whatever you want to close. Or 50/50 halfway or infinite possibilities between them like mostly closed 10/90.
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That all makes sense. I’ll switch that main drain lever to where you showed it on the picture when I get home.

When I am using the lever by the filter to empty some water from the pool, are the skimmers and main drain levels good where they are (after I move the main drain one where you recommended). I know for day to day use you say that’s best. Just wasn’t sure if I have to adjust them at all before I release water from the pool?

Thanks
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Can liquid chlorine damage fiberglass pool?

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tenkas said:
When I asked him he just said: bleach is Crud, will make it yellow you can't use that.

No science behind it unfortunately.
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I've been using bleach to chlorinate my fiberglass pool for several years now since my SWG died. My fiberglass pool is still white and hasn't turned yellow. I'd be tempted to fire that pool guy if he told me that bleach would turn a pool yellow because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Just make sure you slowly pour in the chlorine in front of a jet in the deep end. There is no need to brush afterwards if you add it that way.
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Floating skimmer baskets when pump is on

Mattikuss
Hi Friends,

I have a variable speed pump that I run at 2250 RPM (about 50 GPM) 24/7. To me, this seems high but any lower speed and my pump basket gets full of air. Also, my wife complains of floating debris on top of the water and anything less than this speed doesn’t seem to filter the water.

My skimmer baskets are always lifting out of the housing. I see a bunch of posts of this happening when the pump is off but my pump is never off and this happens. Is there something bigger amiss with my system? What about the drain, should I be closing the drain off so all the suction is going through the skimmers? Please help!
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Mustard algae and waterbody proximity

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I live on a lake. My pool is uncovered and I can't always keep all the birds and other creatures out if it. Because of this, I have mustard algae on and off all year. I scrub down everything every few days, which keeps it mostly in check. A SLAM will get rid of it... for a while.

It's not really a big deal, but I'm not sure this is to be expected when you live next to freshwater, or if I'm doing a poor job of managing my FC. I accidentally double dosed stabilizer when I opened this year, so my CYA is higher than I wanted, but... last year I had a hard time keeping CYA up at all. With all the Florida summer rain and sun I was constantly adding stabilizer on top of regular trichlor puck use. So I'm hesitant to drain and refill.

Right now my CYA is 60 and I'm trying to keep my FC at least 10. I just finished a SLAM and I've been mustard free for several days, but... I feel like it's just waiting for me to let my guard down.

pH 7.4
FC 12
CC 0
TA 150
CYA 60
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Cleaning mold off of a painted concrete pool deck

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What is the best way to clean mold off of a painted concrete deck without damaging the finish on the deck? Can I use my power washer on a lower setting and use diluted bleach to clean the deck or should something else be used? If it is okay to use my power washer on a lower setting, how can I keep the moldy water from getting into my pool? I could hire someone to soft wash the deck, but I really hate to do this unless I absolutely have to. The deck is almost black so there is a lot of mold to remove.
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Considering SWG

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I was obsessive about CSI and it helped. On my first RS35+ it worked great. After 7 years the cell was still going strong. Never even had to clean it. The current pool with our RJ 60+ is a lot different with very high TA and minimal CH. Fill water is 230 TA and I'm correcting an excursion right now. Learning all about when you have deposits it also affects the salt sensor and repeatedly shows way lower than my Taylor K 1766 test. When I cleaned it with diluted muriatic acid it bubbled like a volcano!
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NEED POOL CLEAR QUICK

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You have plenty of time to fix this up. Use a skimmer net to get as much out of it as you can. If the pump runs then you can start SLAMming the pool with lots of liquid chlorine. Links below. You will need to watch your filter pressure and backwash or clean the cartridges when the pressure rises 25% which will be very fast at first. Get a recommended test kit so you know what your water parameters are and because you can't SLAM without being able to get Free Chlorine levels of 10-20 ppm during SLAM. For example, you want PH in the low 7s. You might have to drain the pool first just to get a reasonable baseline for the water.
Pool Care Basics
FC/CYA Levels
SLAM Process
Test Kits Compared
PoolMath
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Stenner Pump tubing cracks

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PS. Pentair recommends all that tubing be replaced regularly. (And with what they charge for it, I can see why!) I've never changed mine. I suppose I should. The acid did a number on the internal tubing (the tube that the rollers squeeze). It was trashed. And I've had to replace the injector at least once, 'cause that got eaten up, too. Just FYI.

Even the parts made to be subjected to the acid eventually all succumb to it.
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Step Jet Returns or Not

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tylerharm29 said:
Hello,
I’ve got a question relating to whether or not I need to add additional returns to my tanning ledge or not. I’m installing a 16ft x 32ft pool with 2 skimmers, main drains and 3 returns (currently). All plumbing is 2”. The attached drawing shows the skimmer locations in blue and return locations in red. Maximum water depth is 4ft-6”. The prevailing wind blows from the tanning ledge end to the “deep” end.

Here are my questions:
If I don’t add the additional returns to my tanning ledge area, am I going to have water circulation issues?
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Not so much on circulation but more about dirt accumulating on the shelf.
tylerharm29 said:
With a 2.2 variable speed pump, is the pump large enough to even support adding these 2 returns?
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Yes, any pump can handle that but it may require running at higher RPM $$.

tylerharm29 said:
Opinions on current locations of skimmers and returns?
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If wind blows right to left, the skimmer should be in the deep end where all the surface debris will end up. Also, with that size pool, 2 skimmers is a bit overkill. But it looks like they already cut out the skimmer locations so maybe it is too late?
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Stenner Pump tubing cracks

Dirk
jonpcar said:
Hey @Dirk, shading the tubes is definitely a plus, but I also notice that in your configuration the ferrule/tubes are pointed down, unlike the recommended position for the stenner pump standalones which puts them horizontally (at least mine does with the “This END UP” labeling on my included bracket, haha).
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Are you talking about the tubes leading into and out of the the pump housing? I never gave that any thought. That pump is mounted to a Pentair IntellipH, and that's how it comes. I doubt it matters much, but it would seem that coming straight down would put less stress on the tubes vs coming out horizontally. Maybe there is some other reason your Stenner needs to be oriented that way, though I can't even guess on why that might be.
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Cordless Robot Vacuum for sloped floors BUT not for climbing walls

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I have been using a Smonet CR6 Pro I purchased off Amazon. After downloading the "app", you can set it to wall only, floor only or wall and floor by simplying pressing the on/off button multiple times to select which mode you want before dropping it in the pool. I don't really need it to scrub the walls either. My pool has a 6' to 3' deep slope and it handles it just fine. The first unit I had was spectacular. It stopped working and the company replaced it with a new one, no charge since it was still within the 1 year warrenty. Then the second one quit, replaced again. Now the third one has been having issues with one side's track not turning. They are sending yet another replacement. Great customer service. I am hoping the latest replacement is as good as the first one was. Not sure how many more I will continue with if they continue to have issues. But I would think most robotic cleaners have the option to set to floor only.
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Step Jet Returns or Not

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Hello,
I’ve got a question relating to whether or not I need to add additional returns to my tanning ledge or not. I’m installing a 16ft x 32ft pool with 2 skimmers, main drains and 3 returns (currently). All plumbing is 2”. The attached drawing shows the skimmer locations in blue and return locations in red. Maximum water depth is 4ft-6”. The prevailing wind blows from the tanning ledge end to the “deep” end.

Here are my questions:
If I don’t add the additional returns to my tanning ledge area, am I going to have water circulation issues?

With a 2.2 variable speed pump, is the pump large enough to even support adding these 2 returns?

Opinions on current locations of skimmers and returns?

I’d prefer to not install these but I’d be willing to do so if it were recommended. If recommending these to be installed, please let me know the location the I should install.

Thank you
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Fiberglass Pool Chemistry

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I'm having a problem with the TFP recommended levels are just fine part of your post. TFP recommended levels for a fiberglass pool with SWG is 350-550 ppm for ideal levels. For acceptable minimum level, it's 250-350 ppm. That does not jive with the calcium is not important advice that is often posted. I keep my calcium at 200 ppm for the pool heater.
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