Mixed Instructions - VS Pump & SWG

Depending on the type of timer, he may be able to wire the pump to the line-in side of the timer so it has 24/7 power. Then you can use the switched side of the timer for the SWG. Advise him this is your preference.
wow! so basically make the pump have full power always which is what i want since it has an onboard pc...and then put the SWG on the timer. if i want the swg running 24/7 i just remove tabs...if i want it to be only 12 hours a day that's simple enough too....

WOW did i recap that right!?

Suction side plumbing leak advice?

Hi All,
I have always had the dreaded air bubble pancake on my pump, but it's been worse lately to the point of my pump basket is only about 3/4 full. I think my union on the suction side it busted and needs to be replaced, I'm just not 100% sure how or where on the plumbing to do so. The union itself isn't completely smooth on the connection surface and the small ridge seems to have hairline fractures - not sure if it goes all the way through the pipe or not. Maybe that rough edge is what was causing the original leaking?
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Here's a wider picture. I can here air noise from the union area with the arrow. When I had the pump off while I was cleaning the cartridges for the filter, I noticed that the concrete below the union was wet - ie, water had leaked back out thru that area. I did try to relube (magic lube) and tighten the union, but that's when the air bubbles got worse.

Maybe ya'll have some less destructive ideas to try first (now that I've written this, perhaps I try smoothing that rough/gouged area - with what - sandpaper or a file?). I think if I had to go full replacement, I would have to cut the pipe at the purple line on the right, get a new coupler (which is what I think the star'ed object is), add a new short section of pipe and connect it to a new union.

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And in case you couldn't tell, I don't have much experience with plumbing/piping at all - I did put an end cap on a broken sprinkler line once. So maybe it would be good to just get a local pool person to come out?

Thanks in advance for any ideas / help.
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18 x 33 x 56" Semi-In Ground NJ

Fair enough for keeping it in this thread! I know on some forums you’ll get the “this doesn’t belong under this topic” argument so just wanted to put that out there.

With the CYA and staining is that somthing that’ll happen in a day if the granules stay on the bottom? I stored up with the pump discharge a bit then I swept the bottom a bit but there are still granules, no piles like the picture I posted.

I did move the CYA bag in front of the discharge from the submersible pump, little surprised after a week it’s still dissolving, which was the reason I screwed with the bag…and spilled some granules 😬

The test kit is a little intimidating at first glance when I opened the box but isn’t bad once ya read a bit and a used some YouTube lol. Much appreciated as usual!!

Mixed Instructions - VS Pump & SWG

here's a photo of my little oasis in CT....i use a normal tarp in the winter....so it collects debris which sadly gets dumped into the pool in the spring when i open it. doesnt take much to clean it but that's what you're seeing in there now. ill upload photos later.

also including a photo of my electrical area where everything will be going.

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Reno, advice needed

No. Pucks add CYA, they are not sustainable. You either go (LC) OR (SWG), or (use pucks until your CYA get to 60, convert to liquid, allow CYA to drop to 30, go back to pucks) or (use pucks until your CYA gets to 60, drain and replace enough to get to 30, then continue with pucks.
Read this:

Correct. The VSP has it's own clock and configurable programming and should be wired directly to GFCI breaker.

In TX? Pfffffft...no question. Get one that is rated for 2x your pool volume.
Ok, he came back with the equipment.
Intelliflo3 1.5 hp and pentair clean and clear plus 520 sq ft. Is that a good size for 18k?

Also had him quote a salt generator, he quoted the pentair one with a IC40 cell.

CYA Zero

Calcium (8 drops) 80 PPM
Switch to 10ml samples and each drop is 25. Its petty but every little bit of effort saved helps.


PH was at least 8.0 (a tad darker)
Lower it 0.4 at a time, mixing and confirming 30 mins later, until its a 7.2. Then slam away.

SLAM Process

Use PoolMath for all chemical adjustments

Mixed Instructions - VS Pump & SWG

you guys are all literally incredible, i can't thank you all enough. So i do not have ANY water features... i have 3 return jets....1 split main drain and one skimmer (double roman pool). i do not have an IFCS...i have a plug in daulphin nautilus robot so i dont need extra power for that.

So going with the 24/7 theory....how do i set it up so that the pump turns on the first time after shut down (backwash of DE filter etc) and have it run at higher rpms for 30 minutes to prime the system and then just drop way down to just enough for the salt system to run. i dont think there's a setting for that in the pump.

or do i just set it to say start up or first cycle for 30 minutes or 1 hour is high rpm....then it just drops down. and every day when that 30 minute cycle hits it just ramps up for 30 minutes and then just goes back down? you see what i'm trying to say....if i follow advice above i want it to prime at a higher speed just at startup and then say for the next 6 days stay at 1100 rpms without going back to higher speed. of course ill monitor this and report back...i need to see how well the system is turning over water, maintaining chemistry and skimming the top. thankfully i dont get much debris (except for these next few weeks with pollen, but that's it. i honestly might even shut off my skimmer during pollen season...never tried that before...but now that i'm saying it or typing it it kind of makes sense. i'd rather use the net and get it off every day than let it clog my de filter.

i still need to figure out now when the electrician comes in the morning how i want this pump wired. as of now the pump i have has a big crazy looking plug...so i believe he'll just be taking the existing plug/wiring off of my existing hayward tristar and installing it on the new pump. that outlet has a manual timer attached to it which i guess i just remove the tabs and it'll just be an on/off switch. not sure how he can wire the SWG into that same outlet....as of now he was planning on just plugging it into the gfci outlet that my lights plug into.

Definitely NOT the capacitor

Check the actual switches under the cover plate. Those outdoor switch covers have a tendency to fail and not move far enough to force the switch into the off position. Seals fail and let water into what should be a sealed box….Inspect everything related to the switch box.

On another note, that motor housing looks well used and beyond its useful life. It’s missing its back cover plate in addition to the maladies you describe. There’s corrosion on the bottom mounting foot indicative of shaft seal failure. I can’t tell if the wet end is useful or in a state of degradation from the pics…Perhaps it’s time to consider moving on and upgrading.

PH making jacuzzi water cloudy

Hi all,

I’ve had this issue on two refills now and dang figure it out.

I have a 3500 liter fiberglass jacuzzi with a gas heater. My understanding is that this requires to keep my calcium at 250’ish, which I’ve done.

All of my other numbers are perfectly in range according to the Pool Math app, and I’m using a Taylor test kid.

The issue I’m having is the slightest bit of PH up is causing cloudy water. I’m talking about a spoon full is clouding the water… and all I’m doing is slightly raining the PH into range 7.6-7.8.


Is this as a result of the calcium? How do I prevent this?

Fixing the cloudiness is a hassle each time also. Usually I have to empty and refill as bringing the PH down and running the pump for a few hours doesn’t fix it.

Thanks in advance!

Definitely NOT the capacitor

If the motor acted like the rotor was locked in place before you freed it up the capacitor “may” be okay. A open capacitor or a locked rotor will sound the same. When the cap is bad, or if the rotor is locked, then the motor will get hot, overheat, and then the internal thermal cutout will open the power to the motor. When the motor cools down enough the thermal cutout resets and the cycle repeats.

It sounds like you also have a bad on/off switch.

Turn the breaker for the motor off, reinstall the cap, and then turn the breaker back on. Power it up and see if it runs. Still likely a bad cap, but if the rotor was locked up that could also be the cause.
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18 x 33 x 56" Semi-In Ground NJ

I was going to stick on this thread when it comes to water chemistry.
This is the 'all things your pool build' thread. Balancing the water and learning as you go applies to that, and is something everyone else building who reads this in the future will have to go through also. Teaching you preemptively helps teach them. (y)

Chlorine bottle says 2.5-4.75 quarts for 15,000gal & the conditioner says 3.75 lbs for 15,000 gal
Forget any and all of anything that isnt
PoolMath

I opened up the bag a bit to check it and a little bit of it came out and settled at the bottom of the pool, which I'm assuming is completely fine?
Cyanuric *acid* ????? What could go wrong ? (Lots could go wrong. Always brush any spillage until it dissolves. Really try not to spill in the first place).
Free Chlorine = 3.6ppm
Switch to 10ml samples and each drop is 0.5 FC. There's no need for 0.2 resolution. A 2.2 and 2.5 equally suck and put you on the same bullet train to SwampVille.
CYA = Big goose egg
Sweet. Something would be horribly wrong if it was in your fill water. Or any water besides a pool that it was specifically added to for that matter.
Ph = 7.3
Alkalinity = 110 ppm
Hardness = 80 ppm
Let em ride. These 3 won't ever really do or need much with vinyl and pool friendly fill water.

possibly get the liquid cya?
It clumps on the bottom so besides being 4X as expensive its impossible to get a partial dose. With the full jug you can rinse and rinse and rinse it at least.

So stick with granual CYA. The UV demand is still low and you have time to take your time. Count it as added once its soaking. You will quickly see how many FC you lose per day, then you start to forsee it happening tomorrow.

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As it warms up. You'll lose a little more each day and dose a bit higher to match it. Steer clear of minimum by the time you test/add next. If you need 5ppm in July, add 5 and a few insurance glugs. 2 may last a week in Septempber/October once it cools down. Know where min is, and what you need at that point in the season to avoid it. Thats it. Its the easiest thing ever under those parameters.
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