Went through pool school - waste
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Testing CYA ten times annually (which is plenty), that works out to a 6.5 year supply.
While R-0013 is the most inert chemical we use, I would not advise TFP's to keep any reagent over 2 years.
While R-0013 is the most inert chemical we use, I would not advise TFP's to keep any reagent over 2 years.
So far i tested my times since pool guy ducks. This is worth it even if I use a quarter if it.
I am sure when stored properly, this shelf life can be greatly extended. But this opinion is for me not for tfps.
I am sure when stored properly, this shelf life can be greatly extended. But this opinion is for me not for tfps.
I bought the 8oz size and used it up quick when adjusting my CYA
Now that I got it at 80 I haven't tested again. Probably will in the spring
Thanks for the guidance.
I test monthly (as a minimum) for CYA and sometimes more often as I use pucks occasionally when I had to travel for short term trips. Also with the rain & tropical storms we had over the summer, I wanted to ensure my CYA was kept in check.
- Nov 12, 2017
- 12,648
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Well... @ciaka got a little carried away. I had originally suggested the 16oz size for $15, which is a significantly better deal than the 2oz size, especially for one that needs or wants to test often during their learning curve...
- Jun 1, 2018
- 16,019
- Pool Size
- 26000
- Surface
- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
I also buy the big bottle - it will keep well if stored properly. I am always helping people with their pools & it’s nice to not worry about running out.
Hey they are in Texas and we know they always go big
I wish I had bought a bigger size, doesn't take long if your like me and still not sure and do it a couple times
- Nov 12, 2017
- 12,648
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Just a reminder/tip... If you're testing across multiple days, then yes, you'd use a fresh dose of R-0013 each day. But if you're unsure of a result, you don't need to start from scratch. You can pour the mixed sample/R-0013 water out of the testing tube back into the squirt bottle, and then repeat the test to determine your CYA number. You can do that multiple times, until you're sure you get a good number. This needs to happen within minutes, not hours. I always repeat the test at least twice, sometimes three times, until I'm happy with the result.
Thanks for another tip.
My CYA still way low, I'm building it up slow u guess, and need testing fresh til its up to near 25 or 30 I assume.
Don't have any tabs in chlorinator anymore, dissolved.
Today told the pool service that left me hanging, that instead of coming here for month, they shod drop off chemicals and I'll do it, for whatever value the service is. They said ok. So we will see what they drop off tomorrow. Regardless, they should be out of the picture now, and I can enjoy doing this and knowing it is done right.
My CYA still way low, I'm building it up slow u guess, and need testing fresh til its up to near 25 or 30 I assume.
Don't have any tabs in chlorinator anymore, dissolved.
Today told the pool service that left me hanging, that instead of coming here for month, they shod drop off chemicals and I'll do it, for whatever value the service is. They said ok. So we will see what they drop off tomorrow. Regardless, they should be out of the picture now, and I can enjoy doing this and knowing it is done right.
- Nov 12, 2017
- 12,648
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Do take steps to secure your warranty. An email from the PB about this new plan, along with an assurance that it won’t affect your warranty would be good to have in hand...
LOL. If you knew me, you would just know I would go for 32oz.
Anyway, I will use it I am sure. If anything, will give some to some friends that will need some too.
Like you told me, filled out me pool details, and also linked my username to the pool math app. Just love that app thing. Sooooo useful and actually very accurate from what I found (measured vs expected changes - I always put in little less in general to ensure not 'getting carried away'.
Did contact the PB. They know and signed off on the plan. If I had not done anything, I would have been with a pool that had no water treatment at all (ZERO) for about 2.5 weeks. Thats how long PB and the Pool service left me hanging without a word. If I had not been making calls and emails/texts, no one would have even asked if I need anything.
Even the pool service company, last week scheduled to come out yesterday (Thu), then I texted to them to confirm, and only then found out they 'moved things around' and planned to come out here today (Fri). That is when I started talking to them and said gimme chemicals and dont come back. So they dropped off 4 gal of MU and 6 gal of Chlorine (their pool service stuff). Told me if I need more to let them know. With my CYA low, I am sure I will go through the Chlorine like hot knife through butter.
Anyway, I will use it I am sure. If anything, will give some to some friends that will need some too.
Like you told me, filled out me pool details, and also linked my username to the pool math app. Just love that app thing. Sooooo useful and actually very accurate from what I found (measured vs expected changes - I always put in little less in general to ensure not 'getting carried away'.
Did contact the PB. They know and signed off on the plan. If I had not done anything, I would have been with a pool that had no water treatment at all (ZERO) for about 2.5 weeks. Thats how long PB and the Pool service left me hanging without a word. If I had not been making calls and emails/texts, no one would have even asked if I need anything.
Even the pool service company, last week scheduled to come out yesterday (Thu), then I texted to them to confirm, and only then found out they 'moved things around' and planned to come out here today (Fri). That is when I started talking to them and said gimme chemicals and dont come back. So they dropped off 4 gal of MU and 6 gal of Chlorine (their pool service stuff). Told me if I need more to let them know. With my CYA low, I am sure I will go through the Chlorine like hot knife through butter.
I bought a box of those trichlor tabs, and am thinking to use them up. Online found about 1 lbs of the trichlor tabs (about 2 of the 3" tabs), will add about ppm of CYA to 10,000 gal pool. So with mine, I would assume, 7 of these tabls will increase my CYA by about same.
So am thinking to put 3 or 4 of them into the chlorinator, so that I can use them up, and get the CYA up too without adding dry stabilizer. Already bought them, why not. What do you wise men on here say? Thanks.
So am thinking to put 3 or 4 of them into the chlorinator, so that I can use them up, and get the CYA up too without adding dry stabilizer. Already bought them, why not. What do you wise men on here say? Thanks.
- Nov 12, 2017
- 12,648
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
I usually always add an extra splash or two of chlorine. A little too much will do no harm. But not enough can lead to algae, or unsanitized water. Better to goose a little than to be shy with it, you can't really get carried away with chlorine unless we're talking about gallons.
For pH, dead-on is best. Too little acid can lead to calcium buildup on your pool finish. Too much acid can lead to corrosive water, which is not good for any plaster, let alone new plaster. pH is one of the most important to keep at your target level. Fortunately, it's one of the easiest tests to do, and to get right.
For pH, dead-on is best. Too little acid can lead to calcium buildup on your pool finish. Too much acid can lead to corrosive water, which is not good for any plaster, let alone new plaster. pH is one of the most important to keep at your target level. Fortunately, it's one of the easiest tests to do, and to get right.
- Nov 12, 2017
- 12,648
- Pool Size
- 12300
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Perfectly fine. Just double-check the math so you don't accidentally go over. Someone here might as well. I've never used a tab so I don't work with those equations...
You know that PoolMath app you just raved about? It's about to get better. Go to the menu then select Effects of Adding. Set it to Trichlor, one pound, and you'll see that for your 34,000 gallon pool the one pound of trichlor it will raise the FC by 3.2, raise CYA by 2.0, lower pH by approximately 0.2 (for TA of 80-120), and raise salt by 2.6. Just verify the number of tabs to weight, I don't know that off the top of my head. Or weigh them with a scale.
If you log the addition of trichlor tablets, you can also check out the Summary page and see the total amount of CYA you've added over time from all sources of CYA, with a breakdown of how much was from what source (dry stabilizer/dichlor/trichlor). This last point only if you have the paid subscription so logging is enabled (which I highly recommend).
It is indeed a really great app!
Yeah, as soon as I installed it, I subscribed. So have access to the full features.
Thanks for that reminder. I have been using the "effects..." to calculate my additions, and yes, it works wonders for me.
I will go and check, will weigh one of them tabs, and try to convert to ensure I dont add too much. Once they dissolve they do not add anymore anyway, and my CYA is super low still.
Thanks for that reminder. I have been using the "effects..." to calculate my additions, and yes, it works wonders for me.
I will go and check, will weigh one of them tabs, and try to convert to ensure I dont add too much. Once they dissolve they do not add anymore anyway, and my CYA is super low still.
I 2nd that, not bad in the winter but you will be shocked how fast your pool can go from clear to green if your FC gets low and water gets warm.
I made of a note of this from a previous thread and I just double checked it in pool math.
3 pucks, fully dissolved, will raise CYA approximately 10ppm in a 10,000 gal pool
Each 8 ounce trichlor tab will add 5.5 FC, add 3.3 CYA and drop PH by 0.29 in a 10,000 gal pool
So you can do your own calculations in Pool Math or use the above for every 10k gals of water.
3 pucks, fully dissolved, will raise CYA approximately 10ppm in a 10,000 gal pool
Each 8 ounce trichlor tab will add 5.5 FC, add 3.3 CYA and drop PH by 0.29 in a 10,000 gal pool
So you can do your own calculations in Pool Math or use the above for every 10k gals of water.
Thanks.
Trichlor I am using has each 3" tablet weigh 0.5 lbs. It was right on the box, and I weighed to verify.
So for me, easy.
For 34,000 gal. Pool, adding 4 of these tablets will:
- raise FC by 6.5 ppm
- raise CYA by 3.9 ppm
- lower pH by 0.4
That is, after all tablets are fully dissolved. From what I vaguely recall, 4 tablets will take about 2 weeks to dissolve fully at setting 3. So the increases/decreases are going to ramp up to that. Which is ok, since I don't mind ramping up slow. Will keep eye on pH and FC, and slowly work on getting TA lower over time.
Trichlor I am using has each 3" tablet weigh 0.5 lbs. It was right on the box, and I weighed to verify.
So for me, easy.
For 34,000 gal. Pool, adding 4 of these tablets will:
- raise FC by 6.5 ppm
- raise CYA by 3.9 ppm
- lower pH by 0.4
That is, after all tablets are fully dissolved. From what I vaguely recall, 4 tablets will take about 2 weeks to dissolve fully at setting 3. So the increases/decreases are going to ramp up to that. Which is ok, since I don't mind ramping up slow. Will keep eye on pH and FC, and slowly work on getting TA lower over time.