Concerned that a 2.7 THP pump for a 600lb sand filter would be too weak for a commercial pool, thoughts? Thank you.

TRC 100C, 600lb total media required

JVS270S THP 2.7

Total setup involves 2 TRC 100C's and 2 pumps that each have a 3.95 THP.

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Follow up question, does anyone have a recommendation for a single or variable speed with a THP closer to 3.95?

Thank you. !!

Feedback on my test numbers

Only my second season with my pool and hoping for an extra set of eyes on my pool test numbers and some reassurance to make sure I’m good.

Had a party yesterday and added some liquid pool shock overnight. Cleaned cartridge filters this morning and tested using Taylor test kit. Here are my results:

FC: 4.2 (usually in the 3 range with SWG)
CC: 0
Ph: 7.6
TA: 60
Cya: 50 (still haven’t mastered reading this test so could be 40 or 60)
CH: 300
Salt: 2800
Temp: 84
CSI: -.34

Still unsure of the CYA/FC connection. Have looked at the chart and try to keep a CYA of 60 and FC at 3.0 using my SWG and then adding some liquid shock after heavy rains and parties.

Anything I’m doing wrong or should fix?
Thanks for the feedback!

Help ID'ing Skimmer

Bought new house with an old pool. Pool has one skimmer, which resembles an old style Anthony skimmer; however, the diverter adjustment appears backwards when compared to others' on this forum. There appears to a be a rubber/metal plug at the bottom, completely blocking the main drain (please see the photo). As a result, all the suction to the pump, which is through a pipe above and perpendicular to that main drain plug, is via the skimmer. I'd like to be able to adjust the main drain suction so that it does not cause my suction cleaner hose to collapse and to improve water circulation. First, can anyone confirm that this is an Anthony skimmer? If so, can I remove that rubber/metal plug and purchase a diverter? Thank you in advance for your assistance.

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Hayward 1HP Max Flo Pump motor replacement

Hello all,

I have a hayward 1hp max flo oump, i believe the model is sp1607z1m, I attached the faded label from the pump. This pump is almost 25 years old and is used for waterfall only. It has now started to make loud grinding noise. I assume the pool motor needs to be replaced, anyone recommend a motor to purchase and is it easy enough to replace on my own? Thanks!

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Unable to get pool pump to prime no matter what.

I have a 20x40-ft inground Master pool probably built in the early 1970s. I am having trouble with getting pool pump to hold prime at all. I am using a pentair WhisperFlo high performance pump with a century one horsepower pump motor non Autopriming. This has been working for at least a year with very little issues.

I recently vacuumed the pool manually due to being gone for a month. Pump was operating fine when I shut it off. The next day I turned it on let the air out of the filter, and notice that the strainer basket was not filling completely with water was filling about halfway. I shut down pump relieved any remaining pressure in the filter and took the strainer basket cap off emptied the strainer basket then hooked up a drain bladder system from the skimmer to the strainer basket. Ran it for about 5 minutes didn't see any debris come out water was flowing relatively freely but the basket was still only filling halfway.

Not sure why this is the case that's why I'm on this forum now. I also use the bladder system on the drain line as well same result no debris coming out but water flowing. I then disassembled the pump from the motor and checked for impeller movement. Impeller seem to move fine didn't spin freely but didn't spin slow. Did not lock up in any position I cleaned out the openings around me impeller and there wasn't much debris that came out.

I took a quick look at the diffuser and the impeller and I noticed no real damage that I could see. Note I did not remove the diffuser from the impeller so I may have missed something. I also took apart the filter drained all water out of it and debris, filled filter back up to where intake pipe is and also made sure that water had run all the way back into the basket and the basket was full of water. I put back together the filter buttoned it down tighten strainer lid rechecked and tightened bolts for pump& motor. Then I ran one more flow test with the drain bladder on both the skimmer and drain lines.

At this point it still seemed to me that the skimmer basket would not fill up with water no matter what. However as soon as I would turn the pump motor on, it would suck all the water out of the basket and never reach over half full on the basket. Once I turned off the pump the basket would fill with water. Any information you can give me as to what to look at next to try and fix this thing. One additional note. would be greatly appreciated as I am stumped at this point. One additional note. I noticed at the bottom of the skimmer basket that the o-ring for the skimmer basket is gone. Could this be causing enough of an air leakto keep pump from priming?

EasyTouch controlled incandescent light - inconsistent operation. Help!

Hello all,
I'm having some issues with my pool light, and was hoping someone here might have seen something like this and could suggest a fix.
I may have to call someone to come out, but... thought I'd try here first.

I control my pool with an EasyTouch remote. I'm not really sure what version or anything, it was installed in 2009.
The EasyTouch remote controls the pump, the heater, the pool cleaner, and the light. The light is setup on Aux 3, so it has a dedicated button on the remote.
The light is a 300w 120v incandescent.

This season, after the pool was opened, I hit the button for the light and nothing happened. (The LED on the remote turned on, but nothing in the pool does.)
I tried several times, scrolled through various options looking for some clue as to what was going wrong, but nothing worked.
My first assumption was that after 14 years, the bulb was probably burned out.
So I started researching how to change the bulb, what kind of bulb to get, etc...
The proposition of dealing with an electrical system submerged in water makes me a little skittish, so I've admittedly been dragging my feet a bit. Plus, I've been thinking LED this time, and they're pretty expensive. So since may, I've been debating over what kind of bulb to buy, and fumbling with the remote kind of hoping I'd stumble across a miracle, while watching videos on how to do replace it and building up courage to go and pull that thing out of there.

I finally decided on the Hayward ColorLogic Color LED Bulb - 120V, and ordered it along with a new gasket.
The night it arrived, I was looking at the box and was thinking "OK, tomorrow morning we'll do this." Picked up the remote, pressed the button one last time and...

THE LIGHT CAME ON.

What?
I didn't do anything differently. It just came on.

Ok. So... then I'm thinking, do I return this bulb and gasket? Will they even accept it back? Meanwhile enjoying a beautifully illuminated pool once again.
For almost a week.
Last night I hit the button and nothing happened. Again. The remote indicates the light is on, but it isn't.

I'm completely at a loss as to what is going on, or what I can do about it.
It'd be annoying to go through the hassle of replacing this bulb if there's some larger issue at play.

Any ideas?
Is it possible for a bulb to not work one day, and then work the next?
Is there some quirk in the EasyTouch system that might cause this?
Should I have a technician come out an look at it? Or is there something I can do?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for reading.

Lost in my SLAM

I've had a challenging pool month. My salt cell failed a few days before an 8 day trip, so I covered for that with liquid chlorine, and got the cell replaced. I returned to a pool that looked fine but was consuming a lot of chlorine and had mildly elevated CCs-- 1-2ish or so. I slammed with liquid chlorine, and it was an impressive battle-- I've been doing TFP for 10 years or more and have never seen a pool consume so much chlorine. The SLAM process has been imperfect, interrupted by storm damage, a medical procedure and a death in the family (it's been a heckuva month!). After a bit more than a week, the CCs trended up into the 5-7 range and became stubborn there, with the pool consuming about 3 gallons a day. The pool still looked great. I have had the pool cover off for the duration of the slam.

I tried to push the FC higher and added 6 gallons of 10% and the pool water seemed to get a slight yellow tint-- subtle, hard to tell with a French gray pool. About 5 years ago, I had an issue with iron staining after a high FC, so I backed off and let the FC drift back down. I felt lost at this point and decided to let the FC come down under 10 so I could get an accurate idea what my pH is and start again.

It took a few days to drift down below 10 and the pH was high, above 8, so I worked the pH back down to 7.4. The pool looks fantastic.

The CC had remained stubbornly high generally between 4.5 and 5.5. Last night it was 5, and I was wondering if I had gotten into a situation where I'd have to replace some of my water, despite looking fantastic. I rained like crazy last night, and this morning the CC is down.

Current numbers are:
pH 7.4 (tested yesterday night when FC was 9)
FC 14
CC 2.5
TA 60
CYA 50
CH 650

So, my questions are-- should I restart the SLAM process at this point? If so, what FC target-- I had been doing 24. Can I SLAM my way out of a CC over 5 with a FC of 24?

Pentair Mastertemp 400 (System Error: HLS error)

Hi Everyone,
I turned on my heater for the first time in 2 years and it's giving me a "System Error" red light. Looking at the underside of the circuit board, HLS led is lit.
The heater won't turn on (stays in "System Error"). There is no noise or ignition or gurgling. However, once I jumped the HLS connectors, it started right up and the heat pool light turned yellow.
Is this as simple as changing out the HLS? In another thread I read, it was the bypass valve that gave an HLS error. Thanks.

Issue with Pool fixture and pool light not turning on

I have a old Hayward SP-583-SL light fixture that had a old Halogen light burn out. I am replacing it with a LED light since Halogens are not obtainable in California any longer. Because of that I had to replace an old X-10 remote switch with a X-10 WS469 Amazon.com since I heard the old switch is for incandescent only. I connect everything up, live light, neutral. I use a voltmeter and see 120V at the pool light junction box, pressing the X-10 switch turns it off so I believe my connections from the pool electrical box to junction is good. I also get 120v at the bulb socket in the fixture, and properly goes to 0 when i hit the X-10 switch. So to me, everything to the fixture seems ok however i cannot get the light to turn on, the GFCI does not trip. I test the bulb in a regular light socket in the house and it works fine. Any other troubleshooting ideas? Can the fixture be bad if I still get 120v to the bulb socket? Is it a fixture compatibility with LED an issue? This is the light I used Amazon.com

Thanks for any input!

-Steve

Weir Door frame broke

I guess with all the splashing and big waves, the water going into the skimmer, then forcefully pushing the skimmer weir door up against this piece of plastic finally gave way and cracked the skimmer frame. This is causing the weir door to stick outward into the pool

Where it is cracked we can pull the this plastic lip away about an inch or so. It is attached on the left-hand side.
What’s the best way to fix this? Some JB water weld?

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Pool filling from city water - filter?

I was reading another article about phosphates and one of the suggestions in limiting them and other containments would be to use an rv filter. Just wanted to see if anyone has noticed a difference if they have gone this route or just a waste of money.

For clarification this is not to fill the pool initially but to add an inch or two after evaporation. Thanks all. Appreciate the response as I’ve learned so much on this site.

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stuck cap on Triton II TR-140 sand filter

We have 3 of these filters on our 100k gal pool. They have a screw on cap (about 10 in diameter) with a pressure gauge on top of the cap. I've been fighting a losing battle with one of the caps and I'm looking for any tricks to get it off. I've broken one of the plastic wrenches that fits over the fins on the cap. I've tried getting more leverage with a length of pipe on the wrench handle. I've tapped on the cap with a rubber mallet, scraped around the rim, applied various lubricants. It's stuck and I'm stuck. Any ideas? Thanks. --Fred

Hey Ya'll

I am Shawn and live in Troy, Texas GO TROJANS!!!!!! After having a pool for years back in the 90s (is was an in the ground Lazy L shaped pool and we payed a local company to maintain it). My wife has now talked me into getting a pool at our current home. Before spending the money on something permanent we have decided to get an intex easy set pool. We went with the 18' x 48' round and upgraded to the 16" 3000gpm sand filter. We also got the Intex skimmer and auto pool cleaner. I purchased the ZX300 pool cleaner but found when it climbs the walls it wants to come up and out. So I just purchased the regular gray one that does not climb walls and seems to be working good when it dont get stuck behind the ladder. However, I have already used this website to get an idea how to fix that. I think this will be a great resource to help guide me back into pool ownership!

paintable resin for INTEX AGP edge?

Hi all, I have been a reader of this forum for several years. I would like to ask for advice because after 6 years of honorable service the side of my intex pool, which is installed in a stable way and therefore is exposed to summers and winters, especially the side most exposed to the sun, has begun to fray. Basically the rubber compound in the part most exposed to traction is starting to give and small portions of the tissue are starting to be exposed.
It basically looks like a fluff....

I know that it is an irreversible process and that sooner or later it will involve the need to replace the liner (and at that point the whole pool) but I was wondering if it was not possible to slow down this process by painting the edge, where the problem is manifesting itself, with some resin. I would like advice on which type of gummy resin is suitable for the purpose in your opinion. Thanks to anyone who can advise me!

Am I wrong for not wanting to pay a pool contractor who didn't fix my problem and then wouldn't respond when I tried to get in touch?

TLDR Version: Pool contractor came out, misdiagnosed the issue, did two services they thought would fix the issue (and didn't do one of them right), and then didn't respond when I reached out multiple times for support after. Now he sent a $300 bill and is demanding I pay by tomorrow or will send to collection agency.

Long Version:
I just got back from being gone with the Army for about 9 months and have had a friend taking care of basic home maintenance, but needless to say have had a pretty big to-do list to get the house back to the condition I like it. My pool skimmer stopped working properly about 4 months ago, and I just told him to leave it off until I get back. I got back and started to work the problem.

All the basic fixes I tried and know didn't work, and I was out of ideas, so I reached out to a pool company around me with decent reviews. I called and before even getting to talk he said "hey text me" and hung up, so I texted him and never heard back.

The next day my dog starts barking and runs out to the backyard, and I go out and find a pool repairman already working on my pool pump. He apologizes and says he didn't think anybody would be home so he just "came in" and genuinely seems apologetic, and I talk him through what the issue is, how my pool isn't cleaning properly because of the skimmer, and I'm all out of ideas/wondering if I'm the problem.

He offers to attempt a basic fix that should help get the skimmer working, and the fix fits under the cost of the $150 service call, so I say cool go for it, maybe I did it wrong. He tries it, does it, and it doesn't fix the issue. He then offers to do a filter cleaning which may help, which isn't hard at all, but I figure probably needs to be done, and frankly I was doubting myself. He explains it's $135 for a filter cleaning and might fix the issue, so I agree to it and go back inside while he works. Seems like a good guy genuinely trying his best. He knocks on the door and says pool filter is clean, I don't need new filters, and he thinks it should work, and sure enough, skimmer starts to work. He leaves and says his boss will bill me. 5 minutes later the skimmer stops working again and I call the company about it, no answer, so I text.

Next day with no warning a different pool guy shows up, and primes the pump and does more basic fixes, which gets it going again. He leaves, but then 5 mins later the issue pops up again. I call, text, no response. Next day text again, no response. Next day text one last time and he finally responds and says "not sure what the issue is but I can refer you to this guy."

At this point I've busted my own butt to fix it and it turns out I had a clogged pool line and also needed new filters, the "clean" filters were completely messed up and so I spend $40 on plumbing supplies/drain bladders and $300 on new filters, which sure enough fixes the issue. Yesterday he texts me that my bill is overdue and I need to pay. I call him and he doesn't answer, so I text him why I have an issue paying the full $300. The guy proceeds to call me dishonest, that he never agreed to "clean my pool" (like that isn't what a filter does), and that I owe him $300 for service call and filter cleaning.

I tell him I'm okay paying the service call, but don't think the filter cleaning is fair since it wasn't done right and it didn't fix the issue. He proceeds to act like a toddler, refuses to answer the phone, says he wants to keep it to text "so I have everything in writing." He said he's done talking and if I don't pay by Monday he'll send it to collections. After his behavior I really really want to be difficult, but I also don't want to be dishonest and become the scum. But his communication has been awful throughout, the pool guys themselves seemed good but what they did didn't work, and when I reached out for support he blew me off but then magically starts communicating when he wants me to pay the full $300. I offered to pay the service call, and that's in writing, and he refused to even consider that.

Should I put a flaming bag of dog poop on his doorstep? Pay it and leave bad reviews?

Almost No Water Flow to Pump, Zero Pressure

Hello! I am a fairly new and somewhat inexperienced pool owner. Our pool was built in the mid-80s; I don't know the last time there was an overhaul on the equipment.

Problem
Currently, I have next to no water coming into my pump and the pressure gauge at zero. A dribble of water comes out if I try to backwash the filter. No water coming out of the jets and no water sucking in the skimmer.

Description of Problem
We had a pool company open our pool. They told us we needed a new pump because our pump would not prime. The pump was pretty old so that seemed reasonable. I bought a new two-speed pump (I want a VS pump but that was not in the budget currently) and as we were preparing for installation, we noticed the lines were still plugged and the valves were not opened during the opening. We then opened all the lines and turned on the old pump, which started right up and was seemingly running fine. The next morning, the flow from the jets seemed weak. I tried to backwash the filter but nothing seemed to happen. I turned the filter back into position but there was zero pressure, nothing was coming in from the skimmer, nothing was coming out of the jets, and little to no water was flowing in.

We then decided to go ahead and install the new pump since the other one was so old. We got it installed, turned it on, and everything was running fine. The pressure was at 10 psi, the jets were flowing nicely with no bubbles, and the skimmer was flowing properly. Then a few hours later we noticed bubbles coming from one jet and nothing from the other one. I turned the pump off and back on. The same thing as before happened - no pressure, no water flow, no movement.

What I have tried
From everything I read, it seems like there could be a blockage in the skimmer line. I got a rubber bladder and inserted it into the line running from the pool to the pump and closed the valve to the main drain. I let that water flow for quite some time on a couple of different occasions. I saw some tiny debris coming up through the skimmer but it was not significant. I also tried alternating between flowing water with the bladder and then turning the pump on to see if that would lodge any potential blockage loose. I still had very little water flow and zero pressure. Also, just to be sure, we replaced the pressure gauge.

Other information
  • The water level has pretty much not moved.
  • I believe I messed up last year when vacuuming the pool in preparation for closing. I vacuumed a lot of leaves but did not use a vacuum plate. I didn't even know such a thing existed until I started trying to troubleshoot these issues. Therefore, a blockage seems very logical to me because of my vacuum mistake.

Next
The owner of the pool company that botched our opening has reached out to apologize. I think I am going to ask for his assistance with this issue but I want to make sure I am as educated as possible. In our short time owning a pool we have not had great luck with pool companies. I was hoping to get some advice from people who know more than me.

Thank you for reading my very long post! :)

Aqua Rite Not Quite Right

Hello all! My pool just seems to be whipping my butt this summer! I just had to have my sand filter replaced due to a pinhole leak in the old one. I had been running my SWG on the lowest setting for a while now and the chlorine was always a bit high, but not too bad so I never worried about it. After the sand filter replacement on Tuesday I noticed that the water was cloudy. I tested for pH and chlorine, and there was NO chlorine. I am guilty of not having checked it in a while, I will admit that. So I switch the Aqua Rite over to super chlorinate and leave it for 20 hours. When I came back today I tested for chlorine again and I couldn't discern if there was any or not, if so it was faint. Also when I came back after 20 hours, the Aqua Rite display was off. I can't remember if any lights were illuminated or not. So I took the readings from the diagnostics and they were as follows:

3100
91
27.3
3.16
57p
-3100
AL-0
r1.55
t-3

So then I came back here and did my research and the first thing I noticed is that my percentage was set around 20-30% but was reading 57%. Also it seems that my voltage and amperage are in the right neighborhood but outside of normal range. So then I went back to the panel about an hour later, it was still on, showed generating like one would expect, no issues or error. I went to the diagnostic screen that shows the percentage and I am not getting the full sweep of the range, it goes from around 24% to 80% with a big dead zone at 67-68%. Also while I was adjusting the range I could hear the panel clicking (not sure if this means anything). I am guessing I might have a display or PCB issue, but could it possibly be the salt cell? I saw the recent similar article and could take the cell in for testing next week, but the display being off leads me to think it's related to the control box.

New testing equipment for me :-)

I didn’t want to jinx it, but now I have delivery confirmed for tomorrow…..
Being frustrated with not having a proper testing kit, I took the plunge and ordered one from the Big US 😁
The K-2006 cannot be shipped overseas, so I went for the K-2009 instead (without the TA and CH reagents), but with additional R-0013 (16 oz) and R-0871 (2 oz)
Even for legal imports, there is a risk of additional import taxes (which could be sky-high), but according to my son, when ordering from Amazon import taxes are included. Something I didn’t know when placing the order, but that explains the fast shipment.
So from tomorrow, I can have exact knowledge of my values and work towards a really TFP 😁😁😁
K-2009

First time using solid pool cover

Good morning, I've never used a solid cover for our pool. I've searched the forums about using a cover when closing the pool for the winter, and I think I've got a good idea of what to do, but thought I'd just get some confirmation since my situation is a little different.
In NC we really don't have to "close" the pool, since it doesn't get too cold. I don't drain anything or lower the water, and the pool pump has a thermostat to turn on when temp gets below freezing. Like the previous owners we used to put out a pool net to catch leaves during leaf season. Ran pump about four hours a day to keep things filtered (might not be needed?)
This year the pool net became deteriorated and I got rid of it. I'm thinking of putting on a solid cover with water bags and tie downs. Reason for not getting another pool net is that I think the falling leaves from a maple tree next to the pool contribute to an iron staining problem I have every spring.
So, I am thinking of putting down a solid cover from around mid-September to mid-December. Will the pool cover cause any problems with running the pool pump for a few hours, or if temps drop and the pool pump turns on? I will bring up the water to SLAM level before putting the cover on. I'm also wondering if running the pool pump is even necessary when the pool is covered? Thanks!

Using Liquid Chlorine system on a SWP

Hey guys.

We love the feel of our SWP. Our Cell is going bad and I'm going to need to replace it. When I look at the different sanitation systems as a cost per year deal, The cells are expensive. Going with liquid chlorine is much more cost effective, however we love the feeling of the salt water.

Any reason we couldn't install a liquid chlorine system in our salt water pool? This would be without the salt cell. Both pools still use chlorine either way. I can get a liquid system for 700 and 70ish bucks a year in chlorine vs 1200 for a new cell every 3 years @ 400 a year.

Would this give me the best of both worlds?

Thanks!

After cleaning filter, water remained a yellowish cloudiness

I added 5 gal liquid (10%) chlorine, and the water cleared up overnight; however my test kit (taylor k2006) indicates no free chlorine.
I took sample to Leslies and they show .13 ppm, and ph 8 and 1846 ppb phosphates along with .5 ppm copper. I'm attaching their 3 page report
They recommend a multitude of chemicals and I'm a bit skeptical based on previous opinions from TFP.

Thanks for any suggestions,
Norm

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