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You know.... I'm not so sure the float type levelers "break all the time"......and if they do they're fairly easy to fix. Its just like the float valve in your toilet. How often really does that break?
I sure wouldn't pay $900 for an electric one is far more likely to be problematic, IMO!

With a hose bib near the pool you can store a hose in a pretty hose pot and no one will see it :)

Maddie
 
I have the Poolmeiser auto fill and have had zero problems with it. It has an overflow built into it and uses a fluid master toilet style anti siphon fill valve. If it ever breaks they are available at the big box stores , and just screws in. It also has an adjustment knob to raise or lower your water level. I believe the replacement valve is like 10 dollars.
 
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Thank you )
I found it odd my suggesting it brought such a negative reaction.

Almost everyone on this forum has the auto fill. I did double check and a few older posts have a few problems with leaks. Maybe it's the type installed.
 
Talked to the pool builder earlier today. We decided not to go with the auto fill. Which is fine.
On the SWG. He said they have a warranty of 3 years and they usually need to be replaced about then. He did say the SWG is only for salt water pools. Is this correct? He recommends an ozone generator which cleans better and still uses less chemicals in the pool. Thoughts?
 
Sollace said:
He did say the SWG is only for salt water pools. Is this correct?
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Yes. Salt Water (chlorine) Generator
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He recommends an ozone generator which cleans better and still uses less chemicals in the pool. Thoughts?
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Everything is bigger in Texas. Including PB ignorance. The ozone generator only treats the half gallon of water passing through the unit. The SWG makes residual chlorine that will mix with the rest of the pool water sanitizing the whole pool. you need to add the same amount of liquid chlorine if you go with ozone, so whats the point ?

Ozone Systems - Further Reading

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Yes, the ozone generator was only brought up when talking about the SWG. More research required!
If we go for a salt water pool we'll use the SWG. I assume there isn't an equivalent (SWG) for a chlorine pool?
 
You PB knows bupkis. My first SWG cell, being oversized of course, lasted 9 years.

Ozone provides no residual sanitation. Its a waste of money for you yet a money maker for the PB. What good is a small amount of cleaned water if the rest of the pool is still unsanitized and still needs chlorine to protect swimmers?!?

Perhaps you should refer your PB to TFP to update his knowledge base. (maybe after the build, eh?)

Maddie
 
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Sollace said:
If we go for a salt water pool we'll use the SWG
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You bring up a good point if it hasn’t been stated yet. You can just add salt to a regular pool just for feel and treat it like a chlorine pool. You don’t have to have a SWG to add salt. Just know ahead of time if you make that decision that it can’t be removed without draining.

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I assume there isn't an equivalent (SWG) for a chlorine pool?
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There are 3 options for residential sanitization. Salt/SWG, Chlorine (possibly with salt for feel) and Baqua. There are many threads here of people leaving Baqua because it’s expensive and very hard to keep right without precise testing options.
 

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And remember that a SWG pool *is* a chlorine pool. It just has its chlorine making built in.
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Yes, that is what confused me. I understood what a SWG was and does but not what TYPE of pool it applied to. I know salt water pools have chlorine. I know chlorine pools have some salt. Most on this forum use SWG but it's not clear what type of pool they have. (Salt water OR chlorine) Now I know that almost everyone on this forum has a salt water pool. My questions are answered. Of course let me know if I'm wrong!

Our PB said water here is very soft but alkaline. He also made a good suggestion about alerting the water company that you're filling the pool and that one month's increase in water is a one time deal.

Oh yes and we're still working on what is in the bid. Interesting enough he said his company has a disclaimer if we go with Pebble Fina (just Pebble Fina). There's another disclaimer when going with an auto fill.
 
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Now I know that almost everyone on this forum has a salt water pool
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There are still many chlorine pools on the forum. First off it has to make sense to justify the purchase. Many above ground pool people don’t see the justification when it costs as much as the whole pool, or at the very least a good chunk of it. But there are also folks who got it anyway because of ease of use.
 
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My guess is that there are many more non-saltwater pool owners here at TFP than there are saltwater pool owners.. The saltwater guys are just more vocal about it... :mrgreen:

My guess is 65% to 35%...

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Jim that is funny about the SWPool owners being more vocal. Your response made me smile.

SO!
We decided to go salt water. Our pool is 12 X 28 and hubby calculated that to 10,000 gallons
What size type salt water generator should we get?
Anything else we specifically need for a salt water pool to list on the contract?
Is 2 HP Hayward Tristar Variable Speed w/ digital controls - The right size for the pool?

And after talking about it and reading a bit more on this forum, we opted to get the auto refill, the electric version which the PB doesn't need a wavier on. Probably costs more too.

Thank you everyone for your help.
 
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we opted to get the auto refill, the electric version which the PB doesn't need a wavier on. Probably costs more too.
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$900!! That's what you said before...... I just can't imagine it being worth that much!? Wouldn't that be better spent on something else or just to lessen the total cost??! :oops:

Maddie
 
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Just saw your picture rendition of the pool. If you plan to do laps in the pool, the full width steps will make turning difficult.
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Yes, we hit a snag when there's a 7.5' set back from the fence. . . . And a set back from the bay window (depended on pool depth). So 12' is really stretching it. While I love to swim, I've never been a lap type. Blame going to the beach all the time growing up!
 
  • How many more bids do you have? You should have 3 minimum.
  • What does lifetime warranty mean?
  • All the structural miscellaneous details about beam size, concrete strength etc are meaningless. Just make sure the design is stamped by a registered professional engineer, meets all codes and the price includes all permits that will be obtained by the builder.
  • Get references and check them.
  • Make sure you understand every word of the contract including your obligations and the builders
  • Make sure the payment schedule is fair to you and builder.
  • Don't agree to make final payment until you have agreed it passes a simple, practical performance test.
  • Don't start until you have a complete scope of work that is priced.
I hope this helps.

Chris
 
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