Pool dig started Manteca, CA

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Two skimmers run back to the equipment pad. You can use a 3 way valve to join them and be the T into the pump suction or run them into 2 way diverter valves and then T into the pump.
 

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Hi All,

So the big day is finally here!! Dig day is tmrw. So I've been doing a lot of reading here and other sites.

Quick question wjich is more important getting thicker rebar vs. 3/8" OR getting rebar 6" inch on centers vs. 12" inch thanks!
From Construction Best Practices - Further Reading

Rebar and Gunite
Concrete swimming pools are structures and, therefore, by code, require structural engineering. The exact rebar specifications should be designed by a structural engineer for a project.

Without getting into specifics, there is usually a range of specifications for things like rebar size, spacing of the rebar, concrete thickness, concrete strength, etc. At the lower end, the idea is to save money on construction. It is usually worthwhile to go above the minimum to help minimize long term problems.

It is best to inquire about the range of specifications, the cost differences, and the strength differences so that you can make an informed decision.

If you want to know what the specifications of the plans are, ask for a copy of the drawings and discuss them with the PB or the engineer. However if you disagree with the drawing, then you should probably be ready to scientifically / mathematically state your case about why you disagree and which building standard or municipal building code section your objection is covered under.

Try to refrain from requesting that x amount of rebar of your choosing be spaced at y distance. You will only alienate both the PB and Engineer with frivolous requests.

If the soil is an issue, you should get a geotechnical engineer to evaluate and advise. You may need piers if the soil is not considered stable.

For rebar engineering specifications read Reinforcing Steel and Swimming Pool Construction by Pool Engineering.

It's always best to have an engineer design a plan for your specific project. Using "standard" designs only works for nominally standard projects.
 

mihzyd777

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Hi All,

First off thank you to everyone here who has helped me with my old pool over the years and now our new pool build. Digging started today and we are excited to provide picture updates as well as question we'll probably have along the way on this journey. I do know one thing the kids are super excited!!
 

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Looking good! I am envious of a yard that doesn't need to be mowed! If it weren't for our dogs I would have artificial grass installed, lol. Keep us posted on your build, and post the equipment list for the members who know about that stuff!
 

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3/8 is the smallest rebar used, 1/2 is more the standard. I would rather 6" on center vs 12" and 1/2 steel for a standard build. Why is this an option do you not have engineered plans stamped by a PE?
 

mihzyd777

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Looking good! I am envious of a yard that doesn't need to be mowed! If it weren't for our dogs I would have artificial grass installed, lol. Keep us posted on your build, and post the equipment list for the members who know about that stuff!
Lol I hear ya I have 3 kids and 2 dogs Grass is on the far other side of the yard lol. It's like a pie shaped yard with 2 large side lots.
 

mihzyd777

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3/8 is the smallest rebar used, 1/2 is more the standard. I would rather 6" on center vs 12" and 1/2 steel for a standard build. Why is this an option do you not have engineered plans stamped by a PE?
Ya I do I didn't get a chance to look at it but I'll first thing tmrw.
 

mihzyd777

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Couldnt imagine digging a pool with a skidsteer and all sand. Jealous. Make sure the area that is the ramp is properly prepared. That is the high failure area for settlement
Thank you for bringing that up. Can you please share how that area should be prepared so I can tell them. I have no clue on that. Thanks!
 
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mihzyd777

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Tile. With minimal grout lines. Not as pretty as stacked stone when new, but a couple years later you have a better shot at it still looking good.
Not to hijack this, but I have 2 round pillars in the back side of my pool on a 24" inch wall. The sheer descents are 36" I faces those round pillars with the tiles and then the rest of the wall with stack stone. Hope this will be somewhat ok?
 

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Thank you for bringing that up. Can you please share how that area should be prepared so I can tell them. I have no clue on that. Thanks!
Here are pictures I took today of the fully finished dig.
Skimmers in red at the top and returns in green at the bottom. Water will flow from bottom to top.

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Ok I was able to get the 2 skimmers added. The one you placed on the left is a few feet over to the right but still a good 15-18' ft. from the one on the right. Hopefully it is ok. You can see it in my updated pictures .
 

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mihzyd777

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So can someone tell the proper way to secure that open hole in the ramp area so that it's not a point of failure at a later time. What do I want to see them do to ensure it's done properly. Also does the pool of the floor need to be compacted and will they do that right before installing the rebar?
Thanks!
 

mihzyd777

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Stacked stone is a rough surface. Cleaning it as you say is easier said than done.
This is what we are putting there. Bad/good? The greenish square is the "verde" krystalkrete quartz we pickedout since we got tired of blue in our last pool lol.
 

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mihzyd777

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Stacked stone is a rough surface. Cleaning it as you say is easier said than done.
So this is the stone going on the wall and the smaller square tiles will go on rounded part on the side raised wall where waterfall comes out. The greenish squares is called verde will be our pool bottom because we had blue on our last pool lol. So talk to me good/bad?
 

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mihzyd777

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So this is the stone going on the wall and the smaller square tiles will go on rounded part on the side raised wall where waterfall comes out. The greenish squares is called verde will be our pool bottom because we had blue on our last pool lol. So talk to me good/bad?
Woops didn't realize I losted twice sorry.