Newnan GA New Pool

[ajw22]

@jimmythegreek
Now we were told the VSF has a sensor connected to the drain on the bottom of the pool. As an example if a child get sucked the sensor would turn the drain off? This os what I was told today in a pool store. I went there to try understand the difference between the vsf and vs. Is this true? We have a 6 and 7 yrs old which we will teach to swim (classes) but knowing about this feature it eased my fears a little bit.

You are getting half truths as explanations.

All drains in new pools are required to be VGBA compliant. These are safety drain covers that prevent anyone from being sucked onto the drain. These are mandatory primary safety devices that you should be getting.

Then the pool industry pushes a safety vacuum release system in their more complicated and expensive pumps as a secondary safety system. The problem is the sensor will false alarm and shutdown your pump unexpectedly. It may be hours or days before you notice it. So if you get the pump understand it will probably be a PITA.

For more on VGBA drains you can read...

https://www.poolsafely.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Pool-Safely-FAQ.pdf

http://apsp.org/portals/0/PDFs/Summary%20of%20the%20Act.pdf

http://apsp.org/Portals/0/PDFs/Consumer%20Safety%20Brochures/Layers%20of%20Protection.pdf

 

[Rich D]

What is a compactor (backfill) ?

When soil is excavated it is fluffed up and aerated. If you just dump it back in the excavation it leaves a massive amount of air space in the soil. Over time the soil will compress and fill the air pockets (settle). This can take many years depending on the soil type and how much moisture is introduced to the area. The proper way to place soil back in any excavation is to compact it in lifts. This means putting in a maximum of 12" of soil then running a compactor over it which Is rated for that depth of lift and soil type. Then place the next 12" in and rinse and repeat until you get to the top. The compactor compresses the soil to get the air pockets out. Please see the last comment I posted and check out the attached link.

 

[Rich D]

This is what PB offer.

For the VSF we would pay an extra $ 800.

Should I change anything ?
Should I also ask for VS 011028 instead?

Easy Touch automation it has the salt built in
Filter: Pentair Cartridge - 420
Salt: Pentair IC40
Pump: Pentair IntelliFlo VSF 3HP

Will meet with him tomorrow morning as he is coming to to backfill.

@Rich D @bdavis466 @ajw22
@kimkats

I assumed you would be discussing the backfill and compaction with the PB before he did the backfill..... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[jimmythegreek]

These guys explained it perfectly. The coping can go on now its sitting on the concrete walls no issue. Whatever goes behind that decking wise is the issue. The VSF pump will be a pain its targeted to pools with single drains to be a safety measure. With dual main drains its not needed or wanted. Usually when a PB just dumps dirt for backfill they are planning a concrete deck and planning on the concrete to span over any settling that may occur. It will short term but it wont last. Much cheaper and easier to just do it right from the start you dont want to stare at cracks or birdbaths in a few years