New pool build in NJ (2/16/23)

[FuturePoolOwner]

UPDATE 1: SEE POST #14 FOR FILTER PAD AND PLUMBING

Hello all,

I am embarking on the pool building process. Excavation started and finished today just before some rain hit. Pool kit and installation comes next week. I will be asking tons of questions during this process. Appreciate everyones help and I hope this thread will help future pool owners. Will update thread as progress is made.

40' x 32' x 16' true-L vinyl liner pool with steel walls.

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[YippeeSkippy]

Exciting times! Take a mess load of pictures, especially of the plumbing lines for future reference if a need arises.
Keep us in the loop

Maddie

 

[Newdude]

Take a mess load of pictures

Mondo +1.

Mine already came in handy a few times in the first couple months. I even laid a tape measure out for many of them to know the pipe in question is X ft from the foundation of the house, pool wall, etc. They're saved forever in the cloud.


I trenched this irritation pipe 64 inches from the house. This will be huge if I'm ever breaking up patio to get to it.

 

[kimkats]

FUN times ahead! That is going to be a big pool! I see many happy days happening!

Do you have your equipment yet?

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

Yes it will be around 35K gallons. Doing around 1800 sqft of pavers

3 skimmers and 5 returns

Cartridge Filter 520 sq ft Pentair
Pentair Intelliflo variable speed pump
Pentair Mastertemp Electronic Natural 400,000 BTU
Pentair Intellichlor 40,000
2x intellebrites
Intellicenter
Maytronics Dolphin Active 20

 

[kimkats]

Do something for me with your equipment. Find out the model numbers of all of them. There are many of different ones out there. I want to make sure you have what your pool needs.

 

[YippeeSkippy]

You're going to need a bigger cell, one that supports 60,000 gallons. We always suggest oversizing at least 2x, but 60k is the largest residential on the market that I'm aware of.

Maddie

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

Will do and what variable speed pump pentair would you recommend I have? I will clarify with my PB

 

[YippeeSkippy]

Take a look at Pentair's 3hp pump, and you can shop it with a bundle to include the salt system. Go for the 60,000 gallon cell.

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

Take a look at Pentair's 3hp pump, and you can shop it with a bundle to include the salt system. Go for the 60,000 gallon cell.

Pump: IntelliFlo3 VSF 3.0HP (011075)
SWG: will upgrade from ic40 to ic60.
Filter: pentair clean and clear plus 520 sqft (160332)

 

[YippeeSkippy]

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

The PB says there will be Jandy never lube valves at the filter pad but for each of the lines coming back he uses a Praher valve. Says the Praher valves are easily replaceable and the Praher valves I would only be turning twice a year (at opening and closing). He says he can do all Jandy but it will be more trouble than its worth for me if I need to replace them in the future.

 

[dleonard1122]

The PB says there will be Jandy never lube valves at the filter pad but for each of the lines coming back he uses a Praher valve. Says the Praher valves are easily replaceable and the Praher valves I would only be turning twice a year (at opening and closing). He says he can do all Jandy but it will be more trouble than its worth for me if I need to replace them in the future.

A couple of links, just in case you haven't seen them already:

Equipment Pad Best Practices - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Valves - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

It sounds like they want to use the Jandy valves on the suction side, and the Praher ball valves on the return side. I did all Jandy on mine, but your PB is correct that I only ever turn the return side valves 'on' or 'off'. It looks like the Praher valves can be rebuilt down the line too, so probably not a huge deal.

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

Update: Pool walls are up and plumbing from pool to filter pad setup. Pressure test by inspector next week then comes concrete collar.

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

Passed pressure test. Concrete collar comes next week. There will be nights where temp may drop around 30-32 for a few hours with day temps in high 40s/low50s. Any concerns with the concrete curing?

Also a pic of the pool with walls

 

[YippeeSkippy]

A good concrete guy can handle, and adjust as needed, for temps in the 40s and 50s.

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

Concrete collar was poured yesterday ~3pm temp in low 50s. 11 yards total with depth concrete collar ranging from 8 inches to 10 inches

Overnight the temperature dropped to 33 degrees for a few hours beginning at 2 AM and there was some light snow ~1 inch! Nothing frozen, woke up to a light amount of snow over the grass but everything was melted on driveway and concrete collar. However, there were some areas in collar with water puddling to about ~1-2 inches. Temps came back up to high 40s.

PB says it will be fine. Though, nothing can be done about it at this point. Is the collar screwed? Ugh...

 

[dleonard1122]

You're going to be just fine. Temps were warm enough to start the curing process when it was poured. Air temps didn't even get below freezing, and ground temps have been so warm that I doubt the moisture in the concrete ever got even close to freezing. It's going to slow down the curing process, but that's fine.

 

[JamesW]

Core drill a sample and see how much compression it can take.

 

[FuturePoolOwner]

Electric to filter pad trenched 200 feet completed.

Getting fencing quotes. Will be aluminum fence. My backyard is pretty large and the fence is mainly for keeping my kids out of pool area as my yard is not fenced.

What space do you all recommend between patio and where fence starts. I'm thinking about putting in some evergreens and perennials, maybe 3 feet.

Also recommendations on gate width? Plan to put in 2 gates, one to enter the pool area via 6 feet wide walkway and a second in the back near the filter pad.

4' vs 5' height fence?