New Build in NE FL
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Omg Kim. I have seen some designed gas tanks but that is pretty cute! Not sure if a rented tank can be painted lol
So in other news, no one seems to know how the heater got installed too close to the house but now EVERYTHING has to come off and the plumbers have to repipe everything at the equipment pad to fix the placement. Oy!
Next, today a guy came out and busted out half of the concrete on the existing back patio. Of course, 2 separate torrential down pours blew in and turned it into a muddy mess. Grade looks good but there is one small issue....
The other part of the back patio concrete is still in place as it was a monolithic pour, meaning part of the foundation. They also made it so it is graded as well so there is more space between the concrete and the bottom of the trim/siding. But as you move back towards the house, the space becomes less and less to move the water away from the house. In the far back corner where the trim is, there is barely 1.5" of space and the trim is right at siding height. Some other areas by the doors has trim that extends beyond the siding so technically the trim can be cut to make room but the far back areas have no wiggle room.
When we had all of the pool companies out for consults when all this started, one of my main concerns was the space between the concrete and the siding as it is misleading if you only judge it by the space closest to the outer edge of concrete/dirt. It looks like no issue by the outer edge bc of the grade. Everyone said no problem! Ok....
So when we originally were doing concrete pavers, the remodeling pavers were an inch thick and I was still concerned about them fitting. Well then the whole paver issue came up and we looked at travertine. When I saw they were 1.25", I specifically asked PB if that was an issue and brought up that if it was too tight ALL of the concrete would need to be removed (which since we brought this concern up multiple times and were always told no problem, I don't think we should have to pay for that as we asked and were ready to have it included in the quote. The concrete removal due to grade issues is not our cost either as PB has already confirmed due to the pool being shot at the wrong height). Again, told no problem so we ordered the travertine.
The construction manager stopped by today and I showed him the areas of concern and how some areas could be trimmed but some couldn't. He saw what I was talking about so is going to talk to PB about that. The deck prep is supposed to be done tomorrow am (late as termite spraying was supposed to be at 10am and now has to be moved to the afternoon) but not sure what they are going to do with this "new" issue esp bc you cant just jack hammer this concrete as it could crack beyond where they are working into the remaining foundation but not sure how to cut the concrete bc the house is in the way of the concrete....
I am fairly certain plumbers are coming tomorrow to fix the heater issue, hoping the coping gets finished soon, deck crew will be here but again, need to iron that out, bug guy should be here in afternoon, still waiting to hear about the gas people. Oh hubby and construction manager did get the conduit trenches dug for the gas lines. And hubby cleared everything off the patio and pressure washed thr back patio, house, windows, and basically the entire back of the house as all the rain and dirt makes mud that has splashed up all over the house.
I am so anxious to see the deck laid out! I hope they can get this figured out and quickly. Every time we take a step forward, something else pops up.
Also, I thought I had mentioned this on here but cant find it. We had picked out CL Industries Sunstone Blue Pearl for plaster. We had picked it after seeing it and Aqua Pearl in completed pools. We want a rich, vibrant, saturated blue. We had picked this color when we had the darker deck in the sierra color. Well now that we have silver travertine, I am concerned the plaster color is not going to pop like we want. I contacted CL Industries via FB messenger to discuss their colors bc not every color is shown in an actual pool and the ones that are don't always have the best angle or lighting to get an accurate idea or the pics looked edited.
CL Industries said that Blue Pearl is a lighter blue and is very pretty but not what they would call a rich, vibrant blue. They said the St Lucia Pearl would give the vibrant rich blue. Of course, that was the one we had first inquired about back in Jan/Feb and shocker, it is an upgrade as apparently the colors cost different prices even in the same line (like this Pearl line) bc the darker ones have more pigment in the Portland cement. Is this common? No glass, just pebbles. I have contacted the PB to see if it is truly an upgrade and if it is, how much. Also still waiting on abalone shell cost for hand casting. CL Industries confirmed that they do not void the warranty and they do sell them to distributors.
Oh, and I just remembered hubby had mentioned wanting to use a different material on the actual spill way instead of just silver travertine. I am on the fence about this as the silver travertine does has unique features piece by piece, we have the ledger stone, and the glass tile. Is it too much to throw something else in with a different color and material? Or it would be a nice pop? I am so visual so I have a hard time seeing it without physically touching and seeing.
Here is the only pic I have for now. The removed section of concrete and mud after the first down pour today
So in other news, no one seems to know how the heater got installed too close to the house but now EVERYTHING has to come off and the plumbers have to repipe everything at the equipment pad to fix the placement. Oy!
Next, today a guy came out and busted out half of the concrete on the existing back patio. Of course, 2 separate torrential down pours blew in and turned it into a muddy mess. Grade looks good but there is one small issue....
The other part of the back patio concrete is still in place as it was a monolithic pour, meaning part of the foundation. They also made it so it is graded as well so there is more space between the concrete and the bottom of the trim/siding. But as you move back towards the house, the space becomes less and less to move the water away from the house. In the far back corner where the trim is, there is barely 1.5" of space and the trim is right at siding height. Some other areas by the doors has trim that extends beyond the siding so technically the trim can be cut to make room but the far back areas have no wiggle room.
When we had all of the pool companies out for consults when all this started, one of my main concerns was the space between the concrete and the siding as it is misleading if you only judge it by the space closest to the outer edge of concrete/dirt. It looks like no issue by the outer edge bc of the grade. Everyone said no problem! Ok....
So when we originally were doing concrete pavers, the remodeling pavers were an inch thick and I was still concerned about them fitting. Well then the whole paver issue came up and we looked at travertine. When I saw they were 1.25", I specifically asked PB if that was an issue and brought up that if it was too tight ALL of the concrete would need to be removed (which since we brought this concern up multiple times and were always told no problem, I don't think we should have to pay for that as we asked and were ready to have it included in the quote. The concrete removal due to grade issues is not our cost either as PB has already confirmed due to the pool being shot at the wrong height). Again, told no problem so we ordered the travertine.
The construction manager stopped by today and I showed him the areas of concern and how some areas could be trimmed but some couldn't. He saw what I was talking about so is going to talk to PB about that. The deck prep is supposed to be done tomorrow am (late as termite spraying was supposed to be at 10am and now has to be moved to the afternoon) but not sure what they are going to do with this "new" issue esp bc you cant just jack hammer this concrete as it could crack beyond where they are working into the remaining foundation but not sure how to cut the concrete bc the house is in the way of the concrete....
I am fairly certain plumbers are coming tomorrow to fix the heater issue, hoping the coping gets finished soon, deck crew will be here but again, need to iron that out, bug guy should be here in afternoon, still waiting to hear about the gas people. Oh hubby and construction manager did get the conduit trenches dug for the gas lines. And hubby cleared everything off the patio and pressure washed thr back patio, house, windows, and basically the entire back of the house as all the rain and dirt makes mud that has splashed up all over the house.
I am so anxious to see the deck laid out! I hope they can get this figured out and quickly. Every time we take a step forward, something else pops up.
Also, I thought I had mentioned this on here but cant find it. We had picked out CL Industries Sunstone Blue Pearl for plaster. We had picked it after seeing it and Aqua Pearl in completed pools. We want a rich, vibrant, saturated blue. We had picked this color when we had the darker deck in the sierra color. Well now that we have silver travertine, I am concerned the plaster color is not going to pop like we want. I contacted CL Industries via FB messenger to discuss their colors bc not every color is shown in an actual pool and the ones that are don't always have the best angle or lighting to get an accurate idea or the pics looked edited.
CL Industries said that Blue Pearl is a lighter blue and is very pretty but not what they would call a rich, vibrant blue. They said the St Lucia Pearl would give the vibrant rich blue. Of course, that was the one we had first inquired about back in Jan/Feb and shocker, it is an upgrade as apparently the colors cost different prices even in the same line (like this Pearl line) bc the darker ones have more pigment in the Portland cement. Is this common? No glass, just pebbles. I have contacted the PB to see if it is truly an upgrade and if it is, how much. Also still waiting on abalone shell cost for hand casting. CL Industries confirmed that they do not void the warranty and they do sell them to distributors.
Oh, and I just remembered hubby had mentioned wanting to use a different material on the actual spill way instead of just silver travertine. I am on the fence about this as the silver travertine does has unique features piece by piece, we have the ledger stone, and the glass tile. Is it too much to throw something else in with a different color and material? Or it would be a nice pop? I am so visual so I have a hard time seeing it without physically touching and seeing.
Here is the only pic I have for now. The removed section of concrete and mud after the first down pour today
Taking this one at a time:
-You can always paint over it------------------piggy time! :slidehalo:
-Spill over-what does hubby have in mind? Go look at Will's spa spill over. His is made of something different and it looks great!
-moving equpment-gurrrrrrrrrrrrr and many adult words!!!
-removing slab-Talking from my gut here so see if you can follow me-they use a BIG saw and cut as close to the house as they can get and then jack hammer that part out. THEN a small chisel (air chisel) to cut and remove right by the house. I WOULD be standing right there watching every move they made and being ready to STOP them if needed. You and I both know they will not be as careful as you or I would be as it is not their house. Even if they cannot remove the whole thing maybe they can use the chisel to chip off just enough to use your stone.
Kim
-You can always paint over it------------------piggy time! :slidehalo:
-Spill over-what does hubby have in mind? Go look at Will's spa spill over. His is made of something different and it looks great!
-moving equpment-gurrrrrrrrrrrrr and many adult words!!!
-removing slab-Talking from my gut here so see if you can follow me-they use a BIG saw and cut as close to the house as they can get and then jack hammer that part out. THEN a small chisel (air chisel) to cut and remove right by the house. I WOULD be standing right there watching every move they made and being ready to STOP them if needed. You and I both know they will not be as careful as you or I would be as it is not their house. Even if they cannot remove the whole thing maybe they can use the chisel to chip off just enough to use your stone.
Kim
Thanks for the tips Kim. I will try to find the close up pics of Will's spill way.
Right now I can barely type I am so mad. Today a dump truck came to drop off paver base and then the construction manager and plumbers were here. SOMEONE hit our brand new fence that is holding the gate up to our driveway. It caused over an inch of space on all sides of our 8 inch post. Now the gate can't open bc the post is loose. So whoever did it didn't bother to tell anyone. They just grabbed a piece of wood and jammed it against the fence to make the post stand up right so clearly they were aware they damaged it but chose to try to cover it up. So we called PB and turns out the deck subs subbed out a dump truck to deliver the paver base and it was him. Ugh! We told the PB we want the same company who just installed this fence to fix it and someone other than us was going to pay for it. They apologized and said they will handle figuring out who is paying for it. So now I am waiting on a call back from the actual guy who does the fence work to call me back to discuss everything. Always something I swear.
Right now I can barely type I am so mad. Today a dump truck came to drop off paver base and then the construction manager and plumbers were here. SOMEONE hit our brand new fence that is holding the gate up to our driveway. It caused over an inch of space on all sides of our 8 inch post. Now the gate can't open bc the post is loose. So whoever did it didn't bother to tell anyone. They just grabbed a piece of wood and jammed it against the fence to make the post stand up right so clearly they were aware they damaged it but chose to try to cover it up. So we called PB and turns out the deck subs subbed out a dump truck to deliver the paver base and it was him. Ugh! We told the PB we want the same company who just installed this fence to fix it and someone other than us was going to pay for it. They apologized and said they will handle figuring out who is paying for it. So now I am waiting on a call back from the actual guy who does the fence work to call me back to discuss everything. Always something I swear.
OH adult word NO!!! That is unreal! They better hope someone else is there so they can live through the day by standing between him and you!
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I can help you with one thing:
Vegas OB! Just got plans back and need some feedback (pics included ) - Page 32
post 629 shows his spillover-SO pretty!
Kim
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I can help you with one thing:
Vegas OB! Just got plans back and need some feedback (pics included
) - Page 32post 629 shows his spillover-SO pretty!
Kim
Thanks. I see he did like a flag stone. We just have a 15x27 inch opening where I thought we would do travertine but our largest piece is only 24". I wish we had enough glass to do a glass spill way.
ohhhhhhhhhh do you have ANY of the tile left??? We could sneak some in here and there as kind of a surprise treat!
Kim
Kim
I have 9 pieces of 2x2 squares from a sample. First issue is that we need something to lay down to extend out past the ledger stone so we will have a waterfall. If we did tile we would need like a concrete piece or something. I guess I COULD contact Lightstream and see if they would let me buy 2 or 3 sheets.... After all the issues you would think they would...... Hmmm....
Hubby was thinking like a piece of granite or something? I am just worried something different than what we have would be too much?
Hubby was thinking like a piece of granite or something? I am just worried something different than what we have would be too much?
Oh but the right piece of granite could be just what you want. Have a nature edge for more "interest" on the water or a smooth edge for a "cleaner" fall of water.
BUT then you KNOW I would love more BLING so.........you could call LS and ask........
Kim
BUT then you KNOW I would love more BLING so.........you could call LS and ask........
Kim
In other news, we did finally get our tile grouted and plumbers fixed the heater issue. There are a few areas where the grout needs to be touched up as the Lightstream glass isnt perfectly flat and the grout is stuck on the glass. They are coming out to do the prep for the deck but still no answers about the issue with the concrete patio so???
Here's the grouted wall
Some of the grout that needs to be cleaned up
And one area showing how little room there is
So other than a few areas, the grout looks really good. Apparently the accent areas are being prepped in the next day or two as well. I am so anxious to see the deck so I hope we can get this concrete area figured out.
Here's the grouted wall
Some of the grout that needs to be cleaned up
And one area showing how little room there is
So other than a few areas, the grout looks really good. Apparently the accent areas are being prepped in the next day or two as well. I am so anxious to see the deck so I hope we can get this concrete area figured out.
You did a great job picking that grout!!! It really looks awesome with that tile! LOVE IT!
Yeah there is not much room for sure.
Kim
Yeah there is not much room for sure.
Kim
- Jun 18, 2015
- 712
- Pool Size
- 11000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Shantelly - you may want to ask Suz about using glass tile for the spillway. I cannot recall if she's had a problem with it there or under her sheer descents, but I know one of the areas has frustrated her in trying to clean it.
Yeah she had some cracking on her spill way and she gets a build up behind the sheer decent. Thanks for bringing that up.
I am going to check out some granite or other materials and see if I see anything that strikes my fancy.
I am going to check out some granite or other materials and see if I see anything that strikes my fancy.
Even though having our gate messed up and all the other issues, I have my friend here for the week and she has her 4 month old Dobie here and he is such a love. And no one has told him that 45# is a little big for a lap dog! :lol:
I love my tile on the spillway, but there has been some cracking. So far, it doesn't seem to be a problem. With my spillway running whenever my pool pump is, I've had no trouble with scaling there. (definitely behind the sheer descents as you said). The tile on the slanted spillway catches the sun like crazy. At times it looks like diamonds. I would do it again (at this point). If your spillway will catch the sun for over half the day, I would do it. Mine faces southeast, so it has sun all day except a couple of hours before sunset. If your spillway gets a lot of shade, I don't think I would bother with it.
I know what you're talking about needing a bottom ledge to create a water fall. I used my coping, and I love it.
Your coping would look great. As the bottom piece to make the waterfall. If you don't use the tile, is there any way you could use leftover ledger stone pieces? I think that would be gorgeous. I need to look back at your pictures again.
I didn't realize I don't have a good picture of the spillway with the sun on it and water flowing. It's almost blinding.
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Ohhhh... What a sweetie! He's so handsome!!
I know what you're talking about needing a bottom ledge to create a water fall. I used my coping, and I love it.
Your coping would look great. As the bottom piece to make the waterfall. If you don't use the tile, is there any way you could use leftover ledger stone pieces? I think that would be gorgeous. I need to look back at your pictures again.
I didn't realize I don't have a good picture of the spillway with the sun on it and water flowing. It's almost blinding.
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Ohhhh... What a sweetie! He's so handsome!!
Your spill way is stunning. Ours is just a flat space. We were told they want a solid piece for the spill way and no joints which is why we cant use a paver or coping piece. Given that our spill way is flat, I am not sure it is worth it to do anything special. The spill way faces west north west and the trees and house will create shade except between say 11am and 3-4pm.
Sorry, I didn't have the right picture of your spa in my mind. My post wasn't any help at all. I don't understand why you can't have any joints. I probably wouldn't do anything special there either. Sorry I was on the wrong track.
I have seen some nice slabs of either quartz or granite use on the flat spillover.
Here's one:
I have seen some nice slabs of either quartz or granite use on the flat spillover.
Here's one:
Ahh that's nice. Maybe I can find something with some sparkle to it as I have seen counter tops with bling but also would love some veining and movement.
but also would love some veining and movement.
- Jun 18, 2015
- 712
- Pool Size
- 11000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
A beautiful granite with gorgeous "bling" is Russian Volga Blue. I used in on a wet bar top in a house a few years ago and it was positively jewel-like. Lots of depth and parts that look like they are lighted from within.
Tip: call around to several stone fabricators and see what leftover "waste" they have sitting around in their yards. That way you'll get a good price, as the slab was already purchased and used. That's how I ran across the Volga Blue piece!
Tip: call around to several stone fabricators and see what leftover "waste" they have sitting around in their yards. That way you'll get a good price, as the slab was already purchased and used. That's how I ran across the Volga Blue piece!