From what I am reading of your post, you sound frustrated. I can understand that completely, this must be a horrible situation. My take away from all this is that like any covering, be it plaster, paint, or echo finish, the cover will be as good as the surface it's applied too. Since I've spoken to many people who are quite happy with this product, I'm comfortable with it's application provided my pool provided the surface is prepped correctly. There is little risk to me due to it being a new pool as I said earlier.Since this post from RobStl was put on the thread as well as a message directly to me I feel I should post my message reply to RobStl on the thread so that everyone can understand that yes my pool is an older pool but we based our decision on having this done because of what we were told that could be done and was promised they could fix these bumps on the walls. The pool was not a "poorly designed pool structure"
The reply - "Well, the facts are that the original company represented themselves as the EcoFinish company when in fact they were in partnership with the authorized EcoFinish installer. The fact is my pool had bumps, not blisters but my wife and I were told that they could fix these bumps. They were the ones that ground open the bumps to create the breach in the fiberglass, thus causing blisters and they were the ones that cut into the seams that were not leaking and caused them to leak. The fact that the authorized EcoFinsh company came in just to blow the EcoFinish over what their partner did and not prep the pool themselves is on both of them. I have now read enough from other pool owners / installers that suggest that Ecofinish is not recommended for pools with fiberglass and of course bad prep by both companies is another important factor.
I see that you are in the industry in St. Louis. Do you work for one of these companies? "
I hope everyone understands that I used this posting thread to educate others to be cautious based on my own experiences but of course they can make their own decision on whether they want to go with EcoFinish or some other process / product. This is just an FYI on this great website. i hope to have positive news on how to remove the EcoFinish and what is being done to put the pool back into proper shape within the next 60 days. Stay tune.....
You ask a lot of questions and I have answers for all of them but since the lawsuit has now been served and filed with the courts I think it would be best to refrain from going into more details at this time.From what I am reading of your post, you sound frustrated. I can understand that completely, this must be a horrible situation. My take away from all this is that like any covering, be it plaster, paint, or echo finish, the cover will be as good as the surface it's applied too. Since I've spoken to many people who are quite happy with this product, I'm comfortable with it's application provided my pool provided the surface is prepped correctly. There is little risk to me due to it being a new pool as I said earlier.
Being a business owner myself I would ask you: Are you 100% sure the company that prepped your pool walls are "partners" with the people who applied the echo finish? Is it possible the echo finish company was simply hired to apply the covering? Did you hire both the company that "repaired" the pool AND the company that put on the finish? Or did you hire the company that repaired the pool and THEY brought in the company that applied the finish. These things really matter because if that company that applied the finish was sub-contracted they would not really be able to bring any concerns directly to you. They would have to express them to the company that contracted them.
The internet is so permanent nowadays, I'm always careful when dealing with issues of "fault" One thing is for sure, the company that prepped your pool for the finish did not prep it correctly. This caused a domino effect that continued (and continues) to cause problems for you even today. I'm not reading anything in your posts that would fault the finish. It's just a finish, like so many others. There is a recurring theme I am reading in other posts that you mentioned: It's beginning to sound like damaged Fiberglass pools are more problematic to repair / resurface than other types.
Is your pool repairable? I am curious to know where you are leaning as far as a solution goes.
I wish you all the best of luck!
Jay do you have a build thread? I wanted to see how ur pool is looking.I've been reading all the posts on Eco-Finish / Aquabrite. Seems that it all comes down to one single thing:
Living in St. Louis there are two installers here and both seem to be okay. The one I use has had a LOT of experience with installs, so I think my odds of a successful finish are good. Also, my pool is brand spanking new. So there will be no plaster. The walls are Alpha One Composites which are geared for such a finish, the floor is Gunite. Hopefully it will all work out. I have NO INTEREST in plaster whatsoever. Just a personal choice.
Hi Jim!Jay do you have a build thread? I wanted to see how ur pool is looking.
You say you won’t have any plaster? I thought Aqua brite had to be applied over plaster vs gunite? Your floor is gunite. So they would apply a white plaster base to that and then apply the epoxy and then aqua brite right?
I have not dug too deep into the process.. I have complete confidence in them. I don't know the procedure for a gunite botton and composite walls. Right now I'm just praying they SHOW UP tomorrow. It could be our only day without rain. They could use it to clean the property and do a final grade. If they don't then I'll be waiting another two weeks to do it. I don't mind the weather delays, but that plus "getting line" on the number of pools they are building is proving amazingly stressful. Normally it would not be a huge deal, but if they miss tomorrow, then I lose 10 more days waiting for good weather. I'm not enjoying this part at all. My contractor is good at building pools, but they win NO AWARDS in communication. I'm never told anything about schedule or if they will or will not show up. Driving me nuts right now. I have a severe hearing loss so I try to communicate through text or email. It's a rate moment when someone writes back. Not fun.So jay yes epoxy ontop of the gunite but then a layer of plaster before the aqua brite? Did he mention that. I know all the ones I have seen here done had a layer of plaster out down before the finish layer of aqua brite.
So that’s what the plaster layer is for. I figured it was for a bonding process. Not just for a smooth finish. That’s good to know.If they did a gunite floor they will have a plaster coat between gunite and ecofinish, unless they troweled gunite smooth. If they did a straight poured concrete they can apply ecofinish direct to it as long as it is smooth like a basement floor.