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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

You can lower FC with hydrogen peroxide----yeah the stuff in the brown bottle. You can get it for cheap at the dollar store. You will have to do a search to find out how much you would need to make much of an impact!

Kim
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

I was thinking about chlorine removal that you use for aquariums. But the hydrogen peroxide might be cheaper. Let's hope I dont have to resort to something like that. So will the ph test work at fc 10 or does it have to show 9 fc?

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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

It also suggests the possibility of an extra 5ppm play area with potential for possible higher error range that you could use should you get in a bind. But I would seriously try to drop it down to 10ppm or less before checking it to ensure you adjust correctly before all those swimmers get in there this weekend. I hope this helps. Have a nice night. Oh it's Dudette! :)
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

hi all, what a day, did I say I hate moving, I really really do.
Pool isn't quite full but went ahead and did some tests.
FC 16, coming down
CC 0
PH didn't test yet, pool is still filling so hoping that will help dilute the FC some more. (Fill water is well with 0 chlorine)
TA 70 - 80, I don't think it changed color from drop 7 to drop 8, I know it didn't change with drop 9.
CYA - I was disappointed, 85 and I know to round up to 90. Ugh. But I can make that work and continue to decrease it over time cant I?
But hopefully that will decrease some more too has I top the pool off.
Thoughts and thanks for the help, it is very greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Hello Mark,

Oh I hate that it didn't come down more for you with this drain/refill. I was hoping, and had my fingers crossed. I'm at least hoping the continued top off gets you to at least 70 or less, but that's not looking promising, but only time will tell. Of course anything 70ppm, and up per the Chlorine /CYA chart http://www.troublefreepool.com/content/128-chlorine-cya-chart-slam-shock are not recommended as I'm sure you are aware. It is not recommended because it is not practical in attempting to reach the high FC levels that are required to prevent algae growth. Plus the extended high FC levels can also result in liner/equipment damage if left that high for too long.

But to answer your question I would hate to see you have to drain again for a 3rd time, and you've come such a long way already. Of course getting your CYA lower in order to run the lower FC levels would be the best option to prevent having to attempt to reach such high FC levels, risking not meeting a high enough amount to maintain at the Shock level, plus less risk for equipment damage. But since the CYA is still hitting at 85 rounded up to"90" If you are aware of the potential risks, and want to keep doing the partial drains, and refills like you have been to attempt to get it down soon then I can't say I wouldn't blame you for attempting it that way for a short period of time.

Of course, continue to allow the FC to drop to 10ppm or less in order to properly get your pH adjusted 1st, and then continue to refill, keeping your fingers crossed that the remaining top off lowers your CYA even more in the process. With the pool party this weekend that's about all you can do at the moment.

Others with more experience than I may come back and advise you differently or have better suggestions, so please follow their suggestions over mine should that occur, but if I were in your place with 2 drains/refills already, and slow moving well water to refill, that's exactly how I'd continue on, But the choice is yours.


I hope this helps, and have a wonderful night.
 
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If I could just get the pool to a somewhat happy place for swimming this weekend, then I could continue on working on the CYA over the next few weeks. Swimming season is quickly coming to an end and want to get what enjoyment I can out of it over the next few weeks
 

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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

I certainly understand that. Yes getting those levels adjusted for safe swimming this weekend is a must. With the high CYA still, the FC will be lucky to drop to 10 by then, you might hit in the middle somewhere and be able to do it that way but 10 is where you really need to be to ensure an accurate check.

It won't take long to get the pH adjusted once the FC gets to a decent level to check it. Then you'll need to bring those FC levels back up to compensate for the still high CYA in order to have the pool properly sanitized during the pool party. So it's all going to come down to the wire for sure with this already being Thursday.

Then with your slow moving well water refills it has taken what like 2-3 days just to refill, and is still refilling now, just to be able to check the levels, yet only to realize your CYA only dropped 15ppm? :(

How much water did you drain and refill both times? I'm thinking both were fairly significant amounts weren't they, which makes me question Why your CYA is still so high? You must have been Way over 100ppm at the beginning.

Anyway you'll be hoofing it for sure to try to get it all done by the weekend, but it can be done, lol if the water will hurry up, and the levels will cooperate.
 
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Moving is not a fun thing at all! It has been 13 yrs for me since we moved and I can STILL remember it! We say the ONLY we are leaving is in a pine box!

I bet we can get the pool safe for swimming by this weekend. Just let us know when it is full and what you test it at.

Kim
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Its full, or I guess its full, if full means about1/2 way over the skimmer then its full. a few minutes ago I did take my shoes off and stick my feet in, skin is still intact. Based on the size of my pool 37' x 18.5' and draining about 13" that would be 5,500 gallons so x 2 about 11,000 gallons. And since the pool is around 30,000, I have only done a third so far. Should I do tests tonight? Can you do cya with inside lights? wait until morning?
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Yes and yes LOL (sorry I had to do that).

If you can see well enough, and want to test tonight then yes that will be fine, and we'll let you know what needs to be done to get it in swimmable order for the weekend.

Yes, You can do the CYA inside under good lightening. If you have any issues seeing, or think you will, and want to wait till morning to it, and the other tests too, then that will also be fine. LOL See we're easy to get along with around here, so whatever is best for you, works for us too.

Just post them either tonight, or in the AM, and we'll go from there.
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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

FC is at 14.2, I did the .2 test this time around.
CYA is at a solid 80, going to have to buy more chemicals for that test.
So some improvement
Went ahead and did a PH, it is yellow so less then 7, 6.8?
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

The FC is down 1.7ppm since 5pm.

With the 14.2 FC, I'm still questioning the accuracy of the pH reading at that level. So let the chlorine continue to drop tonight/tomorrow, and recheck the FC tomorrow afternoon, hopefully the FC will be lower by then and we can increase pH accordingly. I just don't want you to adjust it too much, and get it too high.

The Slam/Shock level is 31ppm for the 80 CYA in order to kill the algae. It is safe to swim UP TO that level. But don't increase FC until pH is corrected then we'll start raising it back up at that time. I hope this helps. Have a nice night. :)

EDIT: when is the POOL Party?
 
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If I play around in pool math, and use 6.8 as my starting point for PH (yep, figure it could be way lower), then my options to raise it up are Washing Soda/soda ash or borax. Playing with the effects calculator, I would think I want to use borax, since it will only raise my TA by 8.4 vs the Washing soda that would raise it by 31. Does that sound right?
With that, I am estimating the pool at 30,000, starting PH 6.8, desired level 7.5, I need to add 16lbs of borax.
Make sense?

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Will do on waiting until tomorrow to add anything, but looks like I need a bunch of Borax regardless, right? I can run out early in the morning and get some to be prepared.
Thanks
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

You are correct that Borax will add a lot less TA, then the soda ash/washing soda will.

Yes, 16 pounds of Borax is what I show too, if using the TA of 70.

I would still recommend a recheck FC and pH again prior to doing any adjustments though with the FC still being so high.

You'll need to add it in small increments like add 3 pounds wait, and circulate for 30-60 mins recheck, add 3 more pounds, wait 30-60mins, recheck, continue until it is where you need it to be, or all your chemical is added. I hope this helps. Keep us posted on how things are going. Good luck.

EDIT: You need per Pool Math 258 oz. of Borax to raise your pH from 6.8 ppm to 7.5ppm. 20 Mule Borax is 4.75 pounds=76 ounces. Take your 238 ounces needed, and divide it by the 76 ounces per box, and you should need 3.13 boxes of 20 Mule Borax. (So buy 4 boxes, use a little less than 3 1/2 of those boxes, and you'll have a little over a half a box left for later :)).

I hope this helps.
 
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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Looks like you are getting the upper hand on your pool and it's needs! Look at your using Pool Math and knowing what does what! That is awesome to see!

I see swimming time this weekend for sure!

Water in the middle of the skimmer is the purrfect place for it to work properly.

Kim
 

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