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  1. spoonman

    SWG Plug-In Option

    hi TFP crew. I’m looking at installing a SWG. I’ve stumbled across a couple options that allow you to plug the SWG into a GFCI outlet. That said, SWG literature often recommends tying the SWG unit to the pump timer so that operation is synced. In the case of pumps with built-in timers though...
  2. spoonman

    Desert pool drain help!

    Hi there! I’m needing to refill my pool due to excessive calcium which is over 2500 ppm. Since it is summer and I live in AZ,I’m trying to do a drain/refill simultaneously. I have two hoses in the pool, but they can’t keep up with the drain pump. How far can I safely let the water get down...
  3. spoonman

    Cleaner trouble. Please help!!!

    Hi folks, Going crazy on this one! I’ve had a Barracuda G3 working great for the past 5 years. Recently I replaced a few parts (diaphragm, foot, pad) and since then it cleans OK but everyday the hose disconnect itself from the wall vacuum port. I suspect this may be occurring when the pump...
  4. spoonman

    Spa help!

    Hey folks I’m starting up a hot tub and last night added the right amount of sodium bromide (about 1.5 oz for 300 gal) and filled the bromine floater with bromine tabs (with holes fully open). As of today I have no bromine reading yet and am concerned about getting the sanitizer level up...
  5. spoonman

    CH and pH

    Hi Folks, I'm in Phoenix with tap water that is highly calcified. It seems not uncommon here to run CH levels well over 1000+ between water changes. I'm no stranger to this, but may be at my highest level yet which is 1700 CH. At this point (according to poolmath) I'm finding that at my current...
  6. spoonman

    Need additional 220v line?

    Hi gang I’m looking to add a heat pump to my existing in ground pool but need to figure out how to get power to the unit. For context, the pool equipment is on the opposite side of a 2-story house from the meter. Is there a way I can tell if I have sufficient service at the pool equipment for...
  7. spoonman

    Why clean a new Tub with Ahhsome?

    Hi Folks I’m curious about the notion of biofilm existing in a brand new manufactured spa. I’d think that biofilm could only be created if a spa had water in the tub, as opposed to a new tub of assembled brand new parts. Certainly I could understand there being gunk in a new tub such as...
  8. spoonman

    Timer for pool light

    Hi everyone, I have a standard on/off switch for my pool light, which is tucked away and a bit of a pain to turn on/off when desired. I'd like to swap out the switch mechanism for an electric timer so that I can set the light to come on automatically. I'd like to get feedback on whether there...
  9. spoonman

    Heater help!

    Hi folks I’m looking for some advice on the best option to connect a pool heater. I live in AZ and have a pool only with no heater. The problem with adding one now is that my pool equipment is on the opposite side of the house as the gas&electrical utilities. Ideally I would like to add a heat...
  10. spoonman

    TA Homeostasis

    Curious about my TA’s movement related to Stenner use for pH/acid control. I recently converted my pool’s Stenner pump from chlorine to acid. This has been a smashing success overall. The pool has always had fast upward pH drift, but now with the Stenner the pool is holding rock solid at 7.55...
  11. spoonman

    Insane CH increases -Help!

    Hi folks I had reverse osmosis performed on my pool water in May of this year (2018). My water was 200CH after RO as confirmed by my test kit and the RO technician. As if today (October), a mere 5 months later, my water is measuring 700CH! Sure, I live in Phoenix and have high levels of...
  12. spoonman

    Liquidator Questions

    Hi Folks, I'm considering getting a SWG, but am also flirting with the thought of getting a Liquidator as a lower cost and non-salt alternative. I was previously using a Stenner for pumping chlorine, but it didn't work well for me due to degradation of the chlorine in the Phoenix heat. Here are...
  13. spoonman

    Thinking of adding a SWG

    Howdy folks. I currently am using a Stenner pump to chlorinate my pool, but am in the process of switching it to pumping acid instead of chlorine. I'm doing this for 2 reasons...1) my pool's acid demand is more difficult to manage than chlorine demand, and 2) using the Stenner to pump chlorine...
  14. spoonman

    Convert Stenner

    Hi guys, I’m going to change my Stenner from pumping chlorine to pumping acid instead. Anything I should be mindful of when doing the changeover? Figured I’d rinse out the tank, flush out the hoses with water, and recalibrate pump times. Anything else to consider?
  15. spoonman

    Stenner Cover

    Hi folks Looking for some help from the team here. I have a Stenner Pump with 15 gallon tank. I’m looking to cover the tank to shield it from direct sun, as I believe the intense heat outside is causing undue degradation of the chlorine (I’m in Phoenix). Im considering 2 different options to...
  16. spoonman

    Stenner Troubles

    Hi folks. I’m using a Stenner for chlorine Automation. It was working well for a while, but since summer has come I can’t seem to keep up with chlorine demand. I’ve tripled the run time, insulated the fed tubes, and have verified that chlorine is in fact feeding from the supply tube.Yesterday...
  17. spoonman

    Water Softener for Pool (salt vs no salt, etc)

    Hi folks I'm interested to learn more about softeners as I’m considering adding one in the future to combat high CH. Living down in Phoenix I have terribly hard water. Right now I’m in the process of having RO performed on my pool water. I’ve heard that “salt free” systems aren’t very good...
  18. spoonman

    Stenner for Acid

    Hi folks Recently I added a Stenner system to dose my pool daily with chlorine. It has worked like a dream!! Now I’m curious about automating the pH by adding a second Stenner for acid. I know some folks have done this but I’m a bit hesitant to do this though because if not watched carefully...
  19. spoonman

    Low pH /Scale Control Product

    Hi folks I’ve had some tile scale due to managing excessively high CH (1425 currently). As part of resolving this, I’m about to have RO done on my water soon to remove the calcium. Before I do RO I want to tackle the water line ring. Today I added Bio-Dex Protect All, which is supposed to...
  20. spoonman

    Pool ladder help (In Ground)

    Hi folks, I'm having a bit of trouble related to my pool ladder. Hope some fellow TFP-ers can provide some advice :confused: One of my ladder bumpers that touch the plaster doesn't actually touch. I assume that this is due to imperfections in the pool wall or that the ladder was installed ever...
  21. spoonman

    Bio-Dex Protect All

    Hi folks Does anyone have knowledge of this product? It is supposed to held remove or soften calcium buildup caused by high CH/CSI. Supposedly it is a good pre-treatment before cleaning scale from tile.
  22. spoonman

    Stenner Help

    Hi folks, I just installed a Stenner pump which I plan on using for acid. Everything is set, I just need to fill the tank and program the unit (Econ series). My plan is to set the timer so that I can dose a fixed amount of MA each day when my pump is running high. My goal is to keep a stable...
  23. spoonman

    Paint in my pool

    Hi guys I’m having some painting done in my backyard and noticed that there is overspray floating on the surface of my water. It hasn’t seemed to mix in, rather it seems like it may have dried before hitting the water (though it is water based paint). How big of a problem is this and how can...
  24. spoonman

    Pool in Arizona . Need help with a couple things...

    Hi folks, I live in Arizona and we have REALLY hard water. My pool is 18 months old and my CH is already at 1425. I’ve only used liquid chlorine too and it’s still that bad. To add, my 12,000 gallon pool has always drank muriatic acid like a fish (half gallon min). It has been tough keeping...
  25. spoonman

    Testing plaster stains

    Hi folks, I have a white plaster pool that is a year old. I've had staining on the plaster that has gotten somewhat worse over time. There are gray/tan colored blotches mostly on the flat surfaces of the pool (steps and bottom). After following the recommendations of this site, I've tried...
  26. spoonman

    Tired of pH drift

    Hi folks My pool is plaster and is about 11 months old. Since the pool was constructed I've had an uphill battle keeping the pH in line. The pH increases about .3ppm per day meaning I have to dose with acid every other day best case. To compound the problem, I live in Phoenix so my water is...
  27. spoonman

    Mysterious Tile Deposits

    Last week I cleaned my waterline tile with a scrub pad and tile cleaner. The tile had minimal scale, so my goal was to keep any scale from getting worse. A few days later it now appears that there is actually more scale at the waterline than before I cleaned it. I'm puzzled by this because...
  28. spoonman

    Help with high CH

    Hello! I've read a number of threads on controlling CSI but can't quite pin down the best strategy for my pool. I'm in Phoenix with a CH of 700. The fill water here is very high in CH, so RO is the only option for my pool besides controlling the issue with proper chemistry. FWIW, I chlorinate...
  29. spoonman

    Stenner Install

    Hi Folks, I've decided to install a Stenner pump to dispense liquid chlorine. My pool uses about 32oz/day (in the spring). I've decided to buy the Econ T series pump, which combines a timer with the pump. The model I selected is 15 GPD, so I plan to run about 20-30 min/day, which will dispense...
  30. spoonman

    Stenner Pump - Econ Series

    Hi All, I've been considering whether to get a Liquidator or a Stenner Pump. After careful thought, I'm leaning towards a Stanner pump due to the more precise injection of chlorine. The Econ T model looks especially good as it contains a timer, which means one less item (timer) that I have to...