2 year old Warrior SE not working

[mwemaxxowner]

Thanks, I'll check it out!

If there is one model substantially better than another, even if it's pricey, I'd definitely be willing to at least look into it. I think I might email Polaris and give them my pool details and see what they recommend.

I had a "Vingli" suction side cleaner that was identical to a Barracuda that I never could get to work worth a hill of beans. Plus I have to use the adapter on my skimmer port, so if I was running that full time I wouldn't be skimming.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

Our 280 worked down to the ~45 degree water temps we get in winter; the hoses were very noticeably stiffer, and the tail didn't sweep, but it was able to move about the pool and suck up leaves. But I could see how the stiff hoses would make it less tolerant of coils/tangles and lower pressure, for sure.

Are you using the regular zipper bag? I tried a "leaf" bag a few times and that didn't work at all regardless of temperature -- while the bag was theoretically bigger, between the neck at the bottom seeming to be too stiff and not having that side "chute" the regular bag shunts debris to, it quickly clogged at the neck and never filled the bag.

When the booster pump failed this fall I replaced it with a Dolphin E30 (equivalent to S200/Warrior SE/etc), which does some things better (bigger basket collected all the leaves from the wisteria that hangs over the pool without help), and some things not as well (it ignores palm fronds).

This quote has me hopeful one would be good enough in the winter. Here in SC it'll be 60 or better much of our winter, and it would be rare that water temperature was at or below 45.

I wish I hadn't thrown away the old Rover...(it had many problems and needed a full rebuild so I tossed it) The rebuild would make for a much less costly experience it turned out to be a failure.

 

[JoyfulNoise]

I wish I hadn't thrown away the old Rover...(it had many problems and needed a full rebuild so I tossed it) The rebuild would make for a much less costly experience it turned out to be a failure.

When I got my S300i robot I sold my old Pentair Sandshark to another TFP’er. It was old (5 years) but still working. Probably just need new flaps (cheap, like $20) and maybe a gear kit rebuild (cheap too). But I always regretted that as a dumb decision because in the winter I did not want to run the robot and manual vacuuming is just a nuisance. If I had kept the old Kreepy Krawly, I could have thrown that in the pool in the off season and left the robot in the garage.

Well, after my S300i broke down, I had a choice - buy a new motor assembly for $450 and hope to get a few more years out of it OR spend $450 on a new Kreepy Krawly and know that I will definitely get 5 years or more out of it. I decided going back to a suction cleaner was the smarter choice.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

 

[Mdragger88]

Whoo hoo!

 

[JoyfulNoise]

Glad to see them responding. Hopefully they help you out.

What I find truly annoying, in a general grouchy old-man sense, is that nowadays you have to use social media and the tacit threat of saying not nice things about the them to get anyone to respond. There are those of us (yours truly) that grew up in the age before computers and waaaaay before Mark Zuckerberg was a twinkle in his momma's eye, and we learned how to communicate with words spoken over a phone or written in a letter. You could actually speak to another human being and have a decent conversation. Nowadays, it has to be words written from behind a cellphone keypad and unspoken threats to get anyone to respond.

Truly sad ... but I'm hoping they do the right thing and get your robot fixed without too much expense on your side.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

A lady named Laura called me just now from Pentair. She was extremely nice, and extremely helpful.

She apologized for the two shops dodging me (not Pentair's fault) and asked me if I'm confident in my ability to change the motor unit myself. I told her absolutely, so they are sending me a motor unit by mail free of charge!

It failed 1 month out of warranty and I couldn't even produce the S/N. They had every right by the book to deny any assistance. Good job Pentair! I am wholly satisfied, tickled even, with this outcome.

I'm going to repair it, but I'm also going to do something about a pressure side cleaner to take some of the load off of this robot and extend its lifespan. It would also (hopefully) prevent me from getting caught with my pants down and serve as a backup if the robot fails again.

 

[JoyfulNoise]

A lady named Laura called me just now from Pentair. She was extremely nice, and extremely helpful.

She apologized for the two shops dodging me (not Pentair's fault) and asked me if I'm confident in my ability to change the motor unit myself. I told her absolutely, so they are sending me a motor unit by mail free of charge!

It failed 1 month out of warranty and I couldn't even produce the S/N. They had every right by the book to deny any assistance. Good job Pentair! I am wholly satisfied, tickled even, with this outcome.

I'm going to repair it, but I'm also going to do something about a pressure side cleaner to take some of the load off of this robot and extend its lifespan. It would also (hopefully) prevent me from getting caught with my pants down and serve as a backup if the robot fails again.

Good job Pentair

Yeah, my worst case scenario fall back is always manual vacuuming but it is really not a viable option in the dead of winter when the water temp is hovering in the high 30’s and it’s cool and breezy outside. But running a robot cleaning in cold water isn’t good either as I really don’t believe the seals are designed for that kind of thermal contraction. Even the robot manuals state that they shouldn’t be run when the water temps are below 60F.

So I definitely encourage the use of an alternative cleaning method even if that means manual vacuuming of the pool

 

[mknauss]

My water never gets much below 50F, but I run the robot some in the winter. Not every day or anything.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I've never tracked water temps, but our winters here in SC are pretty mild.

Regardless, I won't waste that much of the bot's lifespan any longer....also not gonna manual vac it daily either.

I have a big heavy green cover for the pool. The last two years I enjoyed not covering it so I could see the condition of the water, but I may go back to covering.

The last year I covered it, when I opened it up the water was terrible and green. When I can SEE the water I'd catch that before it got so bad. I have developed better habits over the last two years though.

 

[guinness]

Even the robot manuals state that they shouldn’t be run when the water temps are below 60F.

I wonder how many owners are ignorant of that fact and leave their robot in the pool 24/7 year round and therefore risk water intrusion with the seals in cold water? A warning label on the exterior of the robot would be nice.

 

[Flying Tivo]

Time for Maintenance of "Robotina" Maytronics S200

A little history, Robotina was bought 3 years ago from a seller on Ebay. He listed it as a Refurbished unit and got about 200 bucks savings from a new one. At first few months Robotina would live 1-3 days underwater. I got lazy and let her live 24/7/365 except for few minutes while wash down and...

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[JoyfulNoise]

I wonder how many owners are ignorant of that fact and leave their robot in the pool 24/7 year round and therefore risk water intrusion with the seals in cold water? A warning label on the exterior of the robot would be nice.

Well, their instructions are not very coherent. In one part they imply that automation mode means you can leave the bot in the water all the time and then another part they say you should take it out of the water and let it dry out. So I don’t think they even know what to do …

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I think it's ridiculous to produce an automatic pool cleaner and then expect it to be removed from the pool when not in use and actively cleaning...but what am I to do? It will still beat manually vacuuming and still be many times more convenient.

They might as well remove the ability to set it on a timer.

 

[Flying Tivo]

another part they say you should take it out of the water and let it dry out

I like to think about it as old school suction carburators. Seals will last longer if kept wet or dry but not made for repetitive wet/dry cycles. So i opted for wet since dry wont do much for the pool.

 

[Apsuhead]

Congrats! Pentair sent me the motor assembly and I switched it out no problem. Take your old motor assembly apart and see if there is water in there. I assume the impeller motor is full of carbon dust like mine with worn brushes. Show us pics

 

[mwemaxxowner]

Time for Maintenance of "Robotina" Maytronics S200

A little history, Robotina was bought 3 years ago from a seller on Ebay. He listed it as a Refurbished unit and got about 200 bucks savings from a new one. At first few months Robotina would live 1-3 days underwater. I got lazy and let her live 24/7/365 except for few minutes while wash down and...

www.troublefreepool.com

I thought maybe I'd go through my new motor unit the way you did and seal everything up.

 

[Flying Tivo]

Sealing is the most important part, wear items like the carbons(breake pads on a car) are consumables and cant do much about it. Just try to make it last longer. I will be doing maintenance every year.

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I'm going to attempt to find brushes for the motor and replace them, and have it rebuilt and ready to go if it's ever needed (if that is the problem).

Maybe between having a rebuilt impeller motor on standby and sealing the motor unit up better I'll get a good second lifespan out of it.

 

[JoyfulNoise]

I'm going to attempt to find brushes for the motor and replace them, and have it rebuilt and ready to go if it's ever needed (if that is the problem).

Maybe between having a rebuilt impeller motor on standby and sealing the motor unit up better I'll get a good second lifespan out of it.

Look at the thread in my signature. Around page 18 is wheee I detail how to rebuild the impeller motor. Bearings and carbon brushes are easily acquired but most brushes are square so you’ll have to sand down the standard 6mm to 4x5 mm. Easy to do.