2 year old Warrior SE not working

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Some testing out of the water tells me that the impeller motor is, indeed, bad. I can sometimes start it by "flicking" it with my finger, and it will suddenly start spinning. Even when I do that though, it still fails the test cycles and shuts down.

However, there seems to be another problem. Sometimes it doesn't even get that far and shuts down as soon as it reverses direction the first time.


There seems to be a lot of play in the one drive wheel that has the gear inside it, and sometimes that seems to get in a bind. When testing out of water you can hear the motor under extra strain when that happens. Other times it is fine. Also, while turning the roller by hand, when I turn it that direction I can feel the resistance and see things sort of bind up, and if I try to force it it jumps a tooth or something to relieve the extra tension.

Is this unheard of? And what parts are available to fix that?

Seems like for forever it would occasionally fail for seemingly no reason, or not run a scheduled cycle like it was supposed to. That was only occasional and I never thought much of it, but I wonder if that has been happening with it all along. I'm not totally sure that it's abnormal, because the opposite side has the same amount of play on the idler wheel (checked with the tracks off).

Kind of looks like these things are general junk and should cost more like $200 new.
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That’s tread skipping and I detailed it in my robot thread (link in signature). Pull the wheel covers off and look at the wheel bushing. It’s possible the either the bushing or the wheel hub are warped (not circular) or both are damaged. Tread skipping will definitely put extra torque onto the motor and will cause the drive motor to fail.
 
I have given up. The first pool store Pentair sent me up with never returned a phone call, and I can only assume is now dodging my calls after leaving a message.

So, Pentair set me up with another pool store, had me call them, and they said they don't work on robots.

Now Pentair isn't responding. 😂😭

At this point I'm exhausted on trying, it's easier to just fork over the cash I'm afraid and order the motor assembly myself.
 
If you use Twitter or Facebook, try messaging Pentair. I have had better success contacting companies that way than phone calls or emails lately.
 
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@JoyfulNoise my pool is equipped with a booster pump and a port for a pressure side cleaner. Once upon a time it was serviced by a Polaris pressure side cleaner.

Do you have any pressure side cleaner recommendations?

I gather that they don't clean as well as a robot, which is why I went with a robot to begin with.

However, part of the problem here is probably that I ran my robot year round. Perhaps I need to consider running a pressure side cleaner in the off season, and I'd also have it as a backup all the time. I'm vacuuming the pool almost daily right now the hard way...and I remember why I bought the robot. 😂

Also, if the Polaris 360 will do the job without requiring me to run the booster pump ($$ on electricity) that would be great.
 
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@JoyfulNoise my pool is equipped with a booster pump and a port for a pressure side cleaner. Once upon a time it was serviced by a Polaris pressure side cleaner.

Do you have any pressure side cleaner recommendations?

I gather that they don't clean as well as a robot, which is why I went with a robot to begin with.

However, part of the problem here is probably that I ran my robot year round. Perhaps I need to consider running a pressure side cleaner in the off season, and I'd also have it as a backup all the time. I'm vacuuming the pool almost daily right now the hard way...and I remember why I bought the robot. 😂

Also, if the Polaris 360 will do the job without requiring me to run the booster pump ($$ on electricity) that would be great.
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I do not because I run a suction cleaner. I have been able to get my Pentair Sandshark to do just as good a cleaning job as my robot did. I still need to automate the valve for it but that's work I'll doing in the off season when it's cooler out.

Like you, I had the thought that if I could rebuild my S300i, then what I would do is use the robot during the summer and then the suction cleaner in the off months in order to reduce the amount of wear & tear on the robot. But alas, Maytronics has thwarted that plan since their drive motors are all but impossible to source. So my robot is currently a pile of disassembled junk and I'm going to just go back to using my suction cleaner year round (although I may take it out and store it during the deep winter as I recall that the cold water seems to mess up the flexibility of the suction hoses and causes them to retain permanent bends). Adding a hairnet to the Hayward leaf canister has recreated what the fine pleated filter elements did in my robot - sand, pebbles and silt are all captured now in the inline leaf trap along with the big stuff (leaves, twigs, bugs and hair).

So, if you happen to get both cleaning options running for your pool, I agree that running the pressure cleaner in the off season will take a lot of the wear & tear off the robot.
 
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@JoyfulNoise my pool is equipped with a booster pump and a port for a pressure side cleaner. Once upon a time it was serviced by a Polaris pressure side cleaner.

Do you have any pressure side cleaner recommendations?

I gather that they don't clean as well as a robot, which is why I went with a robot to begin with.

Also, if the Polaris 360 will do the job without requiring me to run the booster pump ($$ on electricity) that would be great.
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The post below might be interesting regarding running costs. Maybe get a used Polaris 280 on eBay for cheap that is being replaced with a robot.

Cost per hour of pressure side cleaner (boost pump) vs. electric robot

Hello all! I have read several comments on here about the significant cost of running the boost pump cleaner vs the power consumption of an electric robot so I had been pondering switching out. I attempted to calculate the power consumption cost of running my boost pump and come up with about...
www.troublefreepool.com www.troublefreepool.com
 
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I saw that post...it actually swayed me more towards not using one. 😂

My pool is surrounded by Leland Cypress trees and Crepe Myrtles. I run it daily so that breakdown for me told me running the booster pump daily will get expensive.
 
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My pool is surrounded by Leland Cypress trees and Crepe Myrtles....
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I have a single crepe myrtle waaaay across the yard from my pool and IT STILL MANAGES to dump flowers into my pool :mad: If it were not for the fact that it provides the only shade for my oldest son's room (western windows exposure), it would have had a date with my chainsaw loooong ago ...
 
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Kinda what's going on in my head right now... repairing this robot will cost $450.

I'd be willing to spend approximately that amount on a pressure side cleaner and test through the off season. I'd know by spring how much it truly runs my bill up, and if it cleans well enough to satisfy me or not.

At that point in time, if I decide I still want the robot to be my go to, I repair it, and I have the pressure cleaner to take some load off of it and help extend the life of the robot.

One of the cleaners Polaris offers they say doesn't require a booster. I'm just curious if it's worth a hill of beans. I have a Hayward single speed 1hp pump.
 
Not yet, because the pump works well and I imagine the energy savings aren't enough to warrant scrapping a perfectly good (and fairly new) pump.

That'll be the kind of thing that I upgrade when replacement is necessary.
 
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Assuming your electrical kWh is 14¢ and you run your pump for 8 hours a day you could save approx. $100 / year.

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A replacement V-Green VS is $600, so it would take around 6 years for payback. Since you have a ¾ HP the savings are marginal.

Century (A.O. Smith) 1.65 HP Motor, V-Green, Square Flange 48Y, Variable Speed - Model ECM16SQU - INYOPools.com

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My power bill at the pool house is about $70/month. I feel like it's pretty reasonable (that's a fully equipped structure with bathroom and kitchen along with pool equipment) so I'm not actively trying to reduce the consumption. That's just always a consideration when I do something new, add equipment or make changes, etc.

So *if* a rover designed to run sans booster pump would perform decently I'd opt for that over one that requires a booster pump.

I do have the booster anyway and if it performed suboptimally I could boost it anyway.
 

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