Super 2 lid stuck!

[tkdb1089]

Recently replaced my very old super 2 lid with a shiny new one. Fresh o rings and lube, of course.

Now I can't get the darn thing off! And it's monsoon season in AZ... I've got both types of lid wrench, I've tried a rubber mallet, I've tried the WD-40 trick. Can't quite figure out how to effectively use a makeshift breaker bar with the lid wrench.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!

 

[ajw22]

Lets see what ideas @1poolman1 @Poolbreh have.

Post a pic of your pump so we can be sure we are all discussing the same pump.

 

[Poolbreh]

This is the tool I use

https://www.amazon.com/Pool-Tool-Strainer-Pump-Removing/dp/B002XNGQVE

If you have that and it doesn’t work, monkey wrench with pipe for torque or large channel locks. But you are risking cracking the lid at that point.

 

[tkdb1089]

Sounds good, thanks! Here is the pain in the butt in question.

 

[tkdb1089]

Man, I cannot budge this thing, even with a monkey wrench. I don't know if I should just wait for it to cool off outside (in Phoenix that means October maybe) or what. The only thing I can think of at this point short of cutting the Dang thing is to bolt some metal eyes to each end of the handle to put a long piece of pipe or rebar through as a perpendicular lever...

 

[JamesW]

Put a piece of pipe over the handle of the lid wrench.

Have someone turn the pump on and off as you apply torque to the lid.

 

[tkdb1089]

I'll give that a go, I'll have to go get a large enough diameter pipe

 

[JamesW]

Did it work?

 

[tkdb1089]

No dice. I still haven't gotten it off. At this point, I'm watching how much is in the basket, just a small number of leaves so far. It's fairly well protected by the rest of the equipment on the suction side. There's a basket on the suction vac line too. I'm trying to give the lid a few taps every day and get it to loosen up. If it doesn't work out, I'll going to get monster channel locks when I'm forced to get the lid off, and accept that it is probably going to break. I'm worried about torquing it too hard and breaking more of the equipment because the pump is not bolted to the pad, so I've got to stabilize it at the same time. Might need a buddy to come over and help. I'm hoping to get closer to the end of the summer before I create a situation where there's more plumbing work or a new pump housing because we had to cave man this thing, hah.

 

[Texas Splash]

Some other options I've seen:

1. I used large channel lock pliers on one side with cloth covering the plastic and
2. A rubber maillot on the other side
I was twisting and pounding at the same time on opposite ends if that makes sense.... and off it came slowly.

Alternate with hot & cold water

Tapping slowly with a 2x4 along the lid

Used a strap wrench around the circumference of the lid

Tap with two rubber mallets at the same time

 

[wireform]

Pardon my drawing capabilities. The green is 2x3 lumber and the red is blocking in between. Make sure blocking is same width as cover handle. This will do it but be careful as not to move the pump and just the cover.

 

[tkdb1089]

Well thanks to good advice, patience, and the largest channel locks I've ever seen I got the lid off today! Managed not to break anything in the process. Thank you all!

 

[wireform]

Well that's really a Cresent

 

[JamesW]

Well that's really a Cresent

 

[Ajayabb]

I can’t believe how difficult that was to remove

 

[Texas Splash]