Stever's Pool Build

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Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Deck Pictures!)

Stever,

I just finally got my stamped concrete sealed with the rhino grip/rhino tooth non-skid. It's a white powder that feels like rough ground sea salt. It just mixes into the clear sealer as it is rolled on. It is not visible in the completed product unless you put way too much in the mix. It's a little rough to the touch but not at all hard on your bare feet. I walked all over it the next day and I'm a pansy foot. No problems. I would definately recommend having this mixed in. There are a couple places where the rhino grip didn't get spread evenly and it is definately slick when wet without the added texture. That sealer puts an almost plastic like finish on the concrete when it's done. I'll update my build pics with some finished examples as soon as I can get the pics uploaded.

Jim
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Deck Pictures!)

Thank you all for your support. I can't wait for it to be done! Today the solor went on mostly. The south faving roofs only got about 70% of the pool area (estimate was 80% by solar company). I decided to leave it at 70% instead of going east face up to 85%. The east face is very visable from the pool, while the south side really can't easily be seen from anywhere.

Steve
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Deck Pictures!)

OK -- fence is mostly done. There's an area that can't be put in final until after the landscaping walls are in. I had to convince the fencing contractor to put in a temporary segment. Overall, though, he did a really good job. He welded it all together -- I've seen the California wrought iron (hollow) being bolted together (cheezeball).

I feel the space is very closed in -- feels like I'm in jail (not that I'd know what that was like). I'm sure it'll be better with landscaping. Also I'm used to is being wide open. A friend said I should have fenced the yard -- not the pool, and then put a smaller (but functional) barrier around the pool. Here in California to meet code the fance has to be 5'-0" high. In some areas the fence is close to 6'-0" because the CMU starter-wall is a foot or so.

I really like how the 36" rail worked. I was able to do this because the CMU wall is 5'-0" -- that became my barrier.

There's a lot of steps in the height of the fence.... I might adjust some of it later. (Oh, but I hate to pay to have things re-done.... :x )

The curved-top gate comes in Tuesday -- I'll call for Inspection Wednesday. Plaster is unlikely to be Thursday -- hopefully Monday then we'll be swimming by the 12th!

Here's some pics:


Lots of steps in height:
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Low 36" rail :-D
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Solar Installation:
Except for some pipes on the roof, I can't see the solar from 90% of my yard -- it's invisible!
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Steve
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Fence & Solar Pictures!)

I think it looks great so far. You'll get used to the fence and once your landscaping is in and there is water in the pool it will all look fantastic. We had a fence around our last pool, and when the girls were older we took it down. It looked sooo different and took getting used to the pool without it!
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Fence & Solar Pictures!)

Vegasmom said:
I think it looks great so far. You'll get used to the fence and once your landscaping is in and there is water in the pool it will all look fantastic. We had a fence around our last pool, and when the girls were older we took it down. It looked sooo different and took getting used to the pool without it!
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Thanks, It'll look much better all planted up. I have a huge landscaping job for a big portion of the rest of the yard. I have a chunk of grass planned with most of the area down near the house being patio and small planters.

cobra46 said:
And think about the unintended benefit of solar. Every BTU pumped into the pool is not going into your house.
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You're right -- I only wish it would keep the house cool instead of 'not as hot' We have a ton of west facing windows that just soak up the heat in the afternoon. The pool, of course, will help -- as we will not be in the house at all!
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Fence & Solar Pictures!)

I had inspection yesterday - -failed :cry: Here's the issues:

1) install bond to diving board. (how?)

2) install bond to pool fencing. (how?)

3) complete pool fence at north -- install top bar and pull tight. (I guess tghey don't allow chainlink without a top bar...?)

4) complete burial of trench of elect at pool "J" box. (seems reasonable -- I had not noticed)

5) install stairs to access pool gate. (can they make me do landscaping outside of the fence? May be months before the decorative steps are in place....)

6) install landing in front of the gate. (I see their point, I'll build up a dirt landing for now... hopefully that will satisfy).

7) finish grade at north of pool. (I had stacked 100 lb keystone blocks to block a hole under a section of fence. They will not allow 'temporary' solutions. If they tried to lift these blocks, they'd see how 'temporary' this is not. This is indeed temporary until the landscape walls go in, but again... may be months before landscaping is done.)


Bummer. I am not the friend of the family now. Not that it's my fault.

Any ideas on (1) (2) and (5)??

Thanks!

Steve
 

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Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Failed Inspection)

So sorry you failed. :(
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Failed Inspection)

Steve,

Sorry to hear about your inspection. I can't believe they are worried about things that are outside the pool fence. Do you think there is a code that says that there must be stairs to access the gate? Try taking a trip down to the city during business hours to discuss the failures. Chances are your inspector won't be there but his boss will. You may learn the easiest way to pass.

I don't have any ideas about the bonding as this should have been addressed before the deck was laid so you can tie into the rebar. I'm sure you know the difference between bonding and grounding.

It may be cheap to temporarily install some railroad tie steps and it would only take a couple of hours. I think these would pass the 'not temporary' criteria.

Good luck and let us know what you come up with.
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Failed Inspection)

cobra46 said:
Steve,

Sorry to hear about your inspection. I can't believe they are worried about things that are outside the pool fence. Do you think there is a code that says that there must be stairs to access the gate? Try taking a trip down to the city during business hours to discuss the failures. Chances are your inspector won't be there but his boss will. You may learn the easiest way to pass.

I don't have any ideas about the bonding as this should have been addressed before the deck was laid so you can tie into the rebar. I'm sure you know the difference between bonding and grounding.

It may be cheap to temporarily install some railroad tie steps and it would only take a couple of hours. I think these would pass the 'not temporary' criteria.

Good luck and let us know what you come up with.
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Thanks for the advice -- I like the idea of the temporary RR tie steps -- but only if i HAVE to do it -- I plan to fight this one. What if I wanted to access the pool from the other side? They cannot control my landscape design! I understand that there must be a landing at the gate -- it must be safe. I'll get the (dirt) landing pad build up right away.

I filled in the J-Box trench this morning. I know this is the PB's job, but anything i can get done will help things go faster.

I also found a picture (I took loads of pictures for just thjis reason) showing the bonding wire from the pool reinforcing to the diving board anhcors. I figure that'll make them happy. But what if I had not had a picture? We did not skip an inspection.... would they have had me break out my deck to prove it to them?

I don't know what will be required for the fence bonding. Just a single copper wire to the equipment pad from the closest part of the fence? Some portions are black chainlink -- not likely very conductive form one segment to another.

Steve
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Failed Inspection)

stever said:
I also found a picture (I took loads of pictures for just thjis reason) showing the bonding wire from the pool reinforcing to the diving board anhcors. I figure that'll make them happy. But what if I had not had a picture? We did not skip an inspection.... would they have had me break out my deck to prove it to them?

I don't know what will be required for the fence bonding. Just a single copper wire to the equipment pad from the closest part of the fence? Some portions are black chainlink -- not likely very conductive form one segment to another.

Steve
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That is surprising that the bonding wire was connected to the diving board platform and they didn't inspect that before you laid the concrete. With my install they came out and approved the bonding before I went any further. The code is very clear about what needs to be bonded, and if the fence is metal, then it needs to be bonded. I would think just a #8 with a the correct lug attached should do.

BTW - your pool looks great!
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (Failed Inspection)

Nod said:
That is surprising that the bonding wire was connected to the diving board platform and they didn't inspect that before you laid the concrete. With my install they came out and approved the bonding before I went any further. The code is very clear about what needs to be bonded, and if the fence is metal, then it needs to be bonded. I would think just a #8 with a the correct lug attached should do.

BTW - your pool looks great!
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The diving board was bonded -- found a photo from before the deck was poured. The fence is not bonded -- any metal within 5 feet of the pool. This is only a small segment of fence.

I had a ramp and dirt pad created to access the pool -- that did the trick there.


I passed Inspection today! Plaster is scheduled for Monday. Filled by Tuesday. Swimming by the weekend :party:

I can focus on the landscaping, etc now!

According to TFP tradition (with a nod to Vegasmom) I won't post pictures again until there be water in that there hole!

Steve
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (PASSED Inspection !!)

Congratulations on passing! You have done an amazing job with the challenges you had, and in a relatively short time. Can't wait to see it filled..it's going to be beautiful. And I am jealous of where you live..it is soooo hot here now. We're finally getting out of town after almost 3 years. Won't be too far from you!

Good luck on Monday 8)
 
Re: Stever's Pool Build - (PASSED Inspection !!)

frustratedpoolmom said:
My daughter wants to know if your house is for sale! :mrgreen: :goodjob:
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Not after all I have gone through to get this pool in! I had more soil perk tests, test tenches, surveys than I ever want to see again. Took 4 years on and off (mostly periods of dejected 'off' and short periods of hope) to find a way to get a pool on this property.

Housing here is very depressed. Lost 20% of the house value easily in the last year. No matter to us, as we intend to stay and bought before it went up in value, but I feel for those who bought a year ago with an interest only 105% loan.... they're really stuck. :(

Thanks anyway!

Vegasmom said:
Congratulations on passing! You have done an amazing job with the challenges you had, and in a relatively short time. Can't wait to see it filled..it's going to be beautiful. And I am jealous of where you live..it is soooo hot here now. We're finally getting out of town after almost 3 years. Won't be too far from you!

Good luck on Monday 8)
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Thanks!

Time is relative -- to the rest of the family, this has taken forever -- I should relay your story to them!

Where are you moving to? Hopefully somewhere where the water gets worm by itself but never needs to be cooled down.

Steve
 

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