Out of options have to raise 8"

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Jun 12, 2017
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Can't dig anymore it's not in the budget..... Got an Intex Ultra frame 32 x 16 if you had to fill 8" on one side what would you use to fill? I will water it down and compact before putting two inches of sand over the whole area.
Thanks!

I'm on very hard ground as we already dug 20"+ in some spots.
 
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An idea of what I'm working with.....
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The whole dig site is 40'x22'
Pool is 32'x16'
The string level measurements I did strictly just to see how far off it was from end-to-end and it ended up being almost 8" :/
 
You will need something like decomposed granite or crusher, which I believe is used for road base material. Either of these compress well and will be a much more stable base of support than dirt or sand.
 
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I'm embarrassed to put this on here lol but I figured what the heck.... Here are the measurements.

I just drove a stake down and ran a string from stake to stake and used a line level..... then went along with the tape measure from ground to string. This is as simple as subtracting the low end from the high-end to see how much I have to fill correct?

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Thank you! I will be looking into this I definitely wanted to avoid sand or dirt!
 
I cant run a bobcat..... I think they are a few hundred bucks a day around here.
How much do you think I'm looking at just for 2" of sand? 146.6 cu ft.... I wonder what a big tandem truck holds.

I got a tandem truck full of gravel one time for $90 delivered.
 
Is the bottom part level? Where the pool will be sitting?

Are you talking about what to put between the pool wall and "wall" of dirt that will be around the pool? I have a couple of ideas if so and they might even work LOL

Kim:kim:
 
Hey Kim, Its not level yet and I'm asking about fill for a base before sand to help get it level. But a "retaining wall" is definitely the next step and as you can see I dont have a lot of room on the long sides of the pool..... any ideas would be great. Thank you!
 
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I cant run a bobcat..... I think they are a few hundred bucks a day around here.
How much do you think I'm looking at just for 2" of sand? 146.6 cu ft.... I wonder what a big tandem truck holds.

I got a tandem truck full of gravel one time for $90 delivered.
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You are looking at 10 - 14 on a "dump truck". Tri axles or quads dont hold more material volume wise most of the time. It is the added load capacity that makes them different.


A yard of sand is one to 1 1/2 tons, you can run a a full tandem on that - also depends on state laws, and bridge loadings in the area.

You are looking at a LOT of fill.
 

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I'm not 100% sure I fully understand your drawing above, but I think you are 8" out of level on the 40 ft length edge with some dip in the middle based on the green numbers. Don't understand the blue numbers.

If you were to assume its a linear 8" over the 40 ft length and add 22 ft width, that becomes 293 Cu ft of fill needed which is 10.8 yards of fill. You will need to pack it down and the dips will require more, so 11-14 yards will be needed. The good thing is that you probably can get that much on a single dump truck load, but of course it would need access to your pit so it could dump straight in.

You pricing sheet above says its for self loading which I'm guessing is not realistic. You will have to get a price for someone to deliver.
 
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Ike you are right... You solved the puzzle! haha
Thats a terrible drawing but I had to throw something together incase the dogs ate my lines since thats their new play area.

The blue line are just three lines are ran the width of the pool. Luckily we got a 10ft gate and are location loads and delivers. Thanks again for all of your help I'd be lost with out it and maybe paying several delivery fees or moving fill I didnt need lol

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I've read post before about 3/8 for fill..... Is that the 3/8 pea gravel? I wouldnt think pea gravel would compact well.
 
I'm not a base expert, but I think crusher is what you want. Its probably called a few different things, but Lowes sells bags of Paver Base which is what I think you want. Not saying to buy the bags, just that is what I call crusher. It compacts really well and is almost like concrete when it sets up.

I used it for my paver patio project a few years ago and compacted by hand with a tamper (to cheap to rent a compactor). The pavers are still rock solid.

Here is a link for a bunch of questions/answers on pool bases. Above Ground Pool Base
 
Awesome..... Sounds alot like aglime/barnlime. Thats what my Dad also recommended and said once you compact it and get it damp its like concrete. And its only 5.95 a ton.

Guess I should be thinking about drainage too.

We had a good rain last week and the area didnt hold any water but the one low corner was a little damp the next morning.

Definitely going to Menards to compare the two before I buy but I think that's what I'm going to do..... Its time to get something done it will be 2 weeks since we dug Friday lol
 
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Actually went and got prices today...... Thanks Dave, Are you thinking by the time its done it will be about as much as getting a bobcat? Last time I had 500 tied into equipment.
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Those are FOB Quarry prices. FOB is free on board, quarry means at the quarry. Basically it means they will load it onto YOUR truck at the quarry for free for that price. Unless you happen to own a trucking company, you are going to have to pay somebody to haul and deliver it for you.

You could get a walk behind track loader for somehwere around $300 for a days use (8 hours) - at least around here

I don't know what sort of equipment you have available to you, but many landscaping places will sell small (1/2 yard) quantities of material to you, and the mark up is not that bad. I have a small (8 x 10) sigle axle trailer that I use. It will hold a yard (maybe a year and half if you push it) of material, but the only thing I buy a full yard of is mulch. I have bough many yards of 3/4" clean, pea gravel, top soil, paver base, Eastern Surise rock, 3" river rock, and assorted other products - all 1/2 yard at a time. I picked upa yard of 3/4" clean once, and will never do it again. I thought I was going to snap the axel and leave it on the road.

If you only need a small quanitiy to do some final grading, a landscape yard may be a better place to look, but if you are going ot buy the amountof fill you originally looked at, then it most likely would be cheaper to hire a trucking company. Around here ther are trucking companies that you can call, and you tell them what you want and where you want it, and they will figure out the cheapest place to get it. Certain quarries may be cheaper, but if they have to make multiple trips because of the road weight limitations, or maybe there is a lot of traffic, they will go somewhere else. Call the trucking company, tell them you want XXX yards of YYY and let them quote you the price.

-dave


-dave
 
You also don't want to just dump all the crusher onto the pool site. You will need to do this in 3"-6" lifts which basically means, laying down 3"-6" at a time and compacting with a plate until you achieve level.
 

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