One leg starting to come off of paver!

Ebburns

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Guys please help!

One leg is started to come off my paver. It was suggested to place another paver behind and try to "cushion" this one somehow. What do you guys think of that idea?? I DON'T want to drain please....

My 2nd leg that is in question is at the very edge is on the side that had to be dug down and we could have QUITE a lot of work to put another paver behind it. Our ground prep was horrendous with many boulders that had to be pulled out. Apparently our ground was a rock quarry originally. Here are pics of both legs.
 

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For the first pic/leg that is really slipping, I think the only thing you could do is dig down about 2" or so and place another paver right next to it. Not to lift or pull the leg onto it, but just to have it there just in case the leg slips more so it will have more paver to slip-over to. But there's still the chance the new paver might tilt the other way (towards the pool) with the leg sliding over to its edge. Next to draining water to lift the leg that's all I can think of.

In the second pic the leg seems to be more stable, so are you saying it's slipping just as bad? I don't see it from the pic. Are you planning to drain in Sept or do you just lower a bit and cover?
 

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is this a round pool? is it full? you are probably fine. slip another pavor or even a red brick behind those just in case, but if it is full it probably won't move much more unless you have REALLY rowdy people/kids in there. I would be a little more worried about the edges rubbing on the liner...
 

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is this a round pool? is it full? you are probably fine. slip another pavor or even a red brick behind those just in case, but if it is full it probably won't move much more unless you have REALLY rowdy people/kids in there. I would be a little more worried about the edges rubbing on the liner...
Yes it's round. On the low side of full. Yes, I'm very concerned with the rub as well. I kind of did something that might be good or bad in our set up that might save a bit on the front edge of the paver... but I sliced a cheaper pool noodle in half a used the half circle (moon shape) to buffer the front edge in case it wasn't flush with the ground which is now burried under the liner. It seems to have creaped another hair back so I am in panic mode and husband is at work for days!!
 

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pool noodle was a good idea and it should be fine. these liners are pretty tough anyway. if you cant fit a whole paver next to the existing one, find something you can put there just in case the leg slips all the way off.

unless this is different than your signature, your pool is pretty small and you should be able to lift that leg even when full with a couple of strong people, one inside and one out using a digging bar or other strong length of something that will fit under the T, through the liner hole, or can rig up a little harness and lift from above. search you tube for lifting intex pool legs. then a third person can adjust the paver.
 

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For the first pic/leg that is really slipping, I think the only thing you could do is dig down about 2" or so and place another paver right next to it. Not to lift or pull the leg onto it, but just to have it there just in case the leg slips more so it will have more paver to slip-over to. But there's still the chance the new paver might tilt the other way (towards the pool) with the leg sliding over to its edge. Next to draining water to lift the leg that's all I can think of.

In the second pic the leg seems to be more stable, so are you saying it's slipping just as bad? I don't see it from the pic. Are you planning to drain in Sept or do you just lower a bit and cover?As f

For the first pic/leg that is really slipping, I think the only thing you could do is dig down about 2" or so and place another paver right next to it. Not to lift or pull the leg onto it, but just to have it there just in case the leg slips more so it will have more paver to slip-over to. But there's still the chance the new paver might tilt the other way (towards the pool) with the leg sliding over to its edge. Next to draining water to lift the leg that's all I can think of.

In the second pic the leg seems to be more stable, so are you saying it's slipping just as bad? I don't see it from the pic. Are you planning to drain in Sept or do you just lower a bit and cover?
I am in Ohio... and that is actually one of my questions is can I winterize it? It's just liner hanging over the metal (somewhat coated frame I guess). The manual says if temp gets below freezing to drain, but what do you experts say? Will ice punching the liner? Is that the concern? Or is it the ice covering or expanding in the frame the issue? It's a pain when you open up your pool area for the elements to "unlevel things again". So it would be awesome if I could just ignore that it says to take it down. So it will at least be a partial if not full drain possibly mid September yes.

The 2nd leg might hang on It's just right there at the edge and no earth at all behind it... and I was preparing for what you mentioned some rowdy friends swimming in the pool. The 1st leg is horribly coming off and I guess I'll go buy another paver or maybe I could do a partial drain to get it light enough to relocate things. It's just finding a day the kids will "let me drain the darn thing". Good thing I haven't added the salt yet because a drain would have me starting that all over $$$. I'm still just using liquid chlorine and adding my granular stableizer (cya I think it's called).

I did not think about it tipping forward but that is definitely a concern. Ugh... if I drain like 2 thousand gallons I could probably get it where I could shift the legs a bit. I wonder if I could pack clay there where that one is at (ugh probably not because the weight of the pool would be on top... but if I did that maybe and get the paver to slide back. If not my only option Is adding something in the back of it and hoping the liner isn't going to get punctured and the back one doesn't tip.
 

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You certainly can close the pool for winter. See the link below. It's used all the time.

 

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You certainly can close the pool for winter. See the link below. It's used all the time.

I still not sure of the best option to do? Partial drain and try to move both pavers out and slide some clay under that void best we can or put a 2nd paver behind. What do you think is the best choice?
 

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I would think it would be a safer idea to put 2nd paver behind the ones you have now. You dont want to try to put dirt back wehre they are now as that could lead to the new paver placement shifting to unlevel as you refill with water. If that happened it would make your pool more likely to be unlevel or to cause other issues. Just my thoughts on it.
 
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I would think it would be a safer idea to put 2nd paver behind the ones you have now. You dont want to try to put dirt back wehre they are now as that could lead to the new paver placement shifting to unlevel as you refill with water. If that happened it would make your pool more likely to be unlevel or to cause other issues. Just my thoughts on it.
You don't think the pool sitting on top of a 1st paver is a even worse idea though? That's what I'm afraid of. I had also thought of partial drain prior so I could add clay easier. I also had the idea of buying a few larger pavers as mine are 7x7. I should have from the beginning but because our ground was a rock quarry we had TONS of work which we only used a tiller and rest by hand.
 

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Chad1979

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Those pavers are flush with the ground and you dod say you put some pool noodle between the liner and paver block so i dont see any issue with liner rub from the paver. These intex liners are pretty robust from what ive done to mine.
 
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Those pavers are flush with the ground and you dod say you put some pool noodle between the liner and paver block so i dont see any issue with liner rub from the paver. These intex liners are pretty robust from what ive done to mine.
Thank you.
 

Chad1979

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Hes asking what happens to clay when it gets wet. It isnt a good material to put under the pool as when it gets wet it turns into a slimy mushy mess and wont stay where you want it to.
 
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I'm confused?
exactly what Chad1979 said. clay turns to mud when it is wet. like around a pool. best to use concrete paver, brick, or even a smooth rock under or next to the leg you are worried about. if the leg were to slip off the paver onto a "clay" surface and that got wet, the leg would sink into the mud.
 

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Sorry
I'm confused?
Sorry I'm slow. But I thought the clay was best because that what I was supposed to put the pool on anyway (compacted soil). Which I thought was sometimes clay. Mostly with the depth that I'm at anyway. So what I went with was the same width paver I found but 3.5 inches longer and drained down to about 8 inches or so. Pulled out 4 very concerning pavers where pool leg was almost going to fall off with rowdy kids swim and replaced with the longer ones. Shifted 2 or 3 others just a bit. I built up one that was showing like an inch lower on level check and I used clay and packed it under. Hope that wasn't a big mistake. Kept chlorinating and skimming the pool while the water was below the pump level and hopefully that kept down anything growing.

We were somewhat close we thought on level and it's filled back up now with pump running. It's not perfectly level probably with in 1.5 inch at worst spots. Figures crossed to get through my 2 month left season left. For 2 VERY amateurs me and my husband did pretty good I think. For my level I used mainly a water level which works AMAZING!! I made one for $10!! Used masking tape to tape clear tube to 2 yard sticks!!

I did pack clay behind where I shifted and moved pavers around. Hope I did right. Tried to fill the voids that I created behind the new paver placement. Put more sand by hand, then back my little peice of cut pool noodle and something kinda thin that was like a foam padding I bought. I triple folded it and wedged in on top and laid liner back down.

Thanks to this group once again for talking me off a ledge... I mean taking my pool down lol...
 
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I think it will be fine, the concern was something like the leg with a small "pointy" foot print sinking in the mud. the whole point of using the pavers is to distribute that weight so it doesn't sink. adding a little under the paver to make it sit even is fine. these pools have a lot of tolerance for imperfection, don't worry and enjoy. there are videos of bears climbing in and out and playing in them!
 
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