I wanted to document my audio build out for my backyard. It was suppose to be a continuation of my whole home Nuvo Grand Concerto system, but because of wires I forgot to run when finishing my basement and the fix I had in place for it did not pan out to what I thought was suitable I am updating my Nuvo to the new Profile line and eventually the rest of the legacy setup I have. The backyard will be my experiment to see how I like it and how robust it is vs other solutions out there.
I know alot of guys love Sonos here, but I have been in the Nuvo camp for 10 years along with installing them for over 15 years. They are one of the most rock solid system I have ever used along with support that is second to none.
Some of the highlights which separate Nuvo Profile from Sonos is:
1. zone players which can be more than 1 zone in 1 box. They sell 3 zone units.
2. zone players also come in diff amp power handling and can handle speakers down to 2 ohm. this is impt for zones with more than 1 pr of speakers to get proper power output.
3. physical keypads which give full feedback. they are modified android tablets which get thier power due to no battery over ethernet. (POE) they run a modified version of android built for Nuvo's app but also can run other apps so my hope is to tie other present automation into thee keypads where used for ease of not having to go to a tablet as much.
I am just a fan of physical keypads. it's kinda like the debate of those who need to use a traditional remote for tv vs a app which had no hard buttons. I like being able to get in the shower and not have to grab a phone or tablet first. I just walk over to the keypad and I'm off. Same when we are cooking in the kitchen. It's just easier in our lives.
So the plan is add 2 players for 2 zones in basement rack out to pool house. the other zone is the outside patio which is actually on the grand concerto inside but it is getting moved over to a zone player so all outside zones are on 2 echosystem for ease of coordinating music outside and inside.
I also need to start adding POE switches to run keypads. 1 larger POE switch will be with the Legacy equipment due to the fact that 10 of the keypads will be in that rack. another POE switch will be placed in basement rack to control keypads used for pool zones.
So here is what my buddy was suppose to order this morning when placing other job orders.
zone players for 3 outside zones 3 of them cause they r in 2 diff locations:
P200 Wireless Player | Legrand
android keypad for main control of system. 1 will be in pool house. others will be placed in home where full control for main zones are needed. prob 1 per floor of the house.
7 Android PoE Touch Screen, BLACK | Legrand
these are secondary keypads which are married to a zone for vol and on and off for easy control. these will only be used in rooms where music is only used once in a while because music is running in another room. example at a holiday kitchen is playing and main area but we go to sit to eat so one in dining room where we can adjust volume only pretty much. these run over POE also not battery like other ones and are wired communication not wireless wifi like others out there for sonos control for example. that way u get no signal drops.
Nuvo P10 Keypad | Legrand
so that's what i got for everyone now. once i get everything in house we can learn together.
yes they are more than sonos players, but again i wanted physical keypads with feed back. only way to do that with sonos is with mounting a tablet and having to keep it charged and use it over wireless wifi. didn't want that route. i can go buy poe tablets from companies but i didn't want to worry about software issues down the road and support. Nuvo is committed to keeping their custom software updated which i know they will do cause of thier track record. also i wanted to go this route cause i needed the amp power for multiple pair of speakers on a zone. sonos technically can't handle it without an additional amp hooked up and at that point the price point is very similiar.
would love to know what you guys think.
Russound has a similiar system but their support is horrible. Their support of legacy product does not exist. So i didn't even consider them.
jim
I know alot of guys love Sonos here, but I have been in the Nuvo camp for 10 years along with installing them for over 15 years. They are one of the most rock solid system I have ever used along with support that is second to none.
Some of the highlights which separate Nuvo Profile from Sonos is:
1. zone players which can be more than 1 zone in 1 box. They sell 3 zone units.
2. zone players also come in diff amp power handling and can handle speakers down to 2 ohm. this is impt for zones with more than 1 pr of speakers to get proper power output.
3. physical keypads which give full feedback. they are modified android tablets which get thier power due to no battery over ethernet. (POE) they run a modified version of android built for Nuvo's app but also can run other apps so my hope is to tie other present automation into thee keypads where used for ease of not having to go to a tablet as much.
I am just a fan of physical keypads. it's kinda like the debate of those who need to use a traditional remote for tv vs a app which had no hard buttons. I like being able to get in the shower and not have to grab a phone or tablet first. I just walk over to the keypad and I'm off. Same when we are cooking in the kitchen. It's just easier in our lives.
So the plan is add 2 players for 2 zones in basement rack out to pool house. the other zone is the outside patio which is actually on the grand concerto inside but it is getting moved over to a zone player so all outside zones are on 2 echosystem for ease of coordinating music outside and inside.
I also need to start adding POE switches to run keypads. 1 larger POE switch will be with the Legacy equipment due to the fact that 10 of the keypads will be in that rack. another POE switch will be placed in basement rack to control keypads used for pool zones.
So here is what my buddy was suppose to order this morning when placing other job orders.
zone players for 3 outside zones 3 of them cause they r in 2 diff locations:
P200 Wireless Player | Legrand
android keypad for main control of system. 1 will be in pool house. others will be placed in home where full control for main zones are needed. prob 1 per floor of the house.
7 Android PoE Touch Screen, BLACK | Legrand
these are secondary keypads which are married to a zone for vol and on and off for easy control. these will only be used in rooms where music is only used once in a while because music is running in another room. example at a holiday kitchen is playing and main area but we go to sit to eat so one in dining room where we can adjust volume only pretty much. these run over POE also not battery like other ones and are wired communication not wireless wifi like others out there for sonos control for example. that way u get no signal drops.
Nuvo P10 Keypad | Legrand
so that's what i got for everyone now. once i get everything in house we can learn together.
yes they are more than sonos players, but again i wanted physical keypads with feed back. only way to do that with sonos is with mounting a tablet and having to keep it charged and use it over wireless wifi. didn't want that route. i can go buy poe tablets from companies but i didn't want to worry about software issues down the road and support. Nuvo is committed to keeping their custom software updated which i know they will do cause of thier track record. also i wanted to go this route cause i needed the amp power for multiple pair of speakers on a zone. sonos technically can't handle it without an additional amp hooked up and at that point the price point is very similiar.
would love to know what you guys think.
Russound has a similiar system but their support is horrible. Their support of legacy product does not exist. So i didn't even consider them.
jim