New owner-builder (kinda) in Arizona

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Can anyone tell me if it's okay to manually turn a valve that has a valve actuator on it?
I can't get my returns to shut off all the way.
According to the plumber the bubblers & returns are on the same valve - the high one on the far left. The start up guy programmed a feature for bubblers, but nothing for returns. The start up guy also said the valve that controls my vac line also controls the returns. So, I think there is a discrepancy here.
Can anyone help me to figure out what the real story is by looking at pics?

So far nothing I do totally shuts off the returns, except shutting the pump off. The only valve I haven't messed with is the one with the actuator.



Thank you for any help solving this!
Sorry I'm so needy.
 
WOW - it looks AMAZING! Your travertine is so beautiful. What a difference with it installed! Hopefully they will replace for you. Love that you accommodated your corgi. I used to have a Pembroke. Hairiest little guy ever. [emoji4]
 
Sorry, I can't advise on exactly how to operate that valve actuator.... but no need to wait several hours between putting acid and chlorine in. Just allow 15-30 minutes between adding chlorine and acid. Leave the pump running from first add to 30 minutes after last add - at a minimum. And remember, you are presently maintaining the FC based on a non-SWG pool. Never let the FC get below the minimum on the Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart for your CYA level.
 
proavia said:
Sorry, I can't advise on exactly how to operate that valve actuator.... but no need to wait several hours between putting acid and chlorine in. Just allow 15-30 minutes between adding chlorine and acid. Leave the pump running from first add to 30 minutes after last add - at a minimum. And remember, you are presently maintaining the FC based on a non-SWG pool. Never let the FC get below the minimum on the Pool School - Chlorine / CYA Chart for your CYA level.
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Yes, I'm working up to 7. I just started up the pool, so I'm hoping I'm at 7 now. I will test again in a bit.
Thanks!!

I think I figured the bubbler/returns to some extent.
If bubblers are off, the returns are always on, when the pump is running, the way it's set up. When bubblers are on, the returns are off.

I'm just trying to see if there's a way to have both bubblers & returns off & just have the skimmer going.

This automation takes some getting aquatinted with.
 
You have to have something, bubblers or returns, that lets the water come out of the filter into the pool. Making sure you understand:

Water leaves the pool by way of the skimmer or main drain (bottom of the pool) to the filter..........water leaves the filter to return to the pool either through the returns and/or bubblers. If you close both the returns and the bubblers there is no where for the water to go out of the filter=not good!

Kim:kim:
 
kimkats said:
You have to have something, bubblers or returns, that lets the water come out of the filter into the pool. Making sure you understand:

Water leaves the pool by way of the skimmer or main drain (bottom of the pool) to the filter..........water leaves the filter to return to the pool either through the returns and/or bubblers. If you close both the returns and the bubblers there is no where for the water to go out of the filter=not good!

Kim:kim:
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Gotcha! So returns & bubblers can't both be off if the pump is running? Correct?
The pool is looking much better!!
 
The actuators have a little switch on them. Typically the side away from the valve end. Depends on how they set them up for your automation but you can move the switch to the opposite direction to drive your valve to move. Have to play with it to understand how it is set up.
 
mknauss said:
The actuators have a little switch on them. Typically the side away from the valve end. Depends on how they set them up for your automation but you can move the switch to the opposite direction to drive your valve to move. Have to play with it to understand how it is set up.
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Got it!!! Thank you!
It might take me a while to get used to some of this fancy stuff.
 

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Those pavers look great - I'd suggest that you take some time and look at every paver and check for things that shouldn't be there. The crew is going to be at your job for a few days and then they will move to the next job and never see your deck again. You will be looking at it every day so now is the time to speak up if something bothers you. I'd take a close look at the edges of the pavers that border you coping all around the pool. I had 5-6 pavers on mine that clearly got chipped during install, but if I hadn't flagged them they would still be there. I went around and put the same blue tape on every paver that I had an issue with. Keep in mind that travertine is a natural stone and some imperfections are normal, but if something doesn't seem right I would talk to the contractor about it. It's not too big of a deal to pull up the pavers at this point, so get it how you want it.
 
azgr said:
Those pavers look great - I'd suggest that you take some time and look at every paver and check for things that shouldn't be there. The crew is going to be at your job for a few days and then they will move to the next job and never see your deck again. You will be looking at it every day so now is the time to speak up if something bothers you. I'd take a close look at the edges of the pavers that border you coping all around the pool. I had 5-6 pavers on mine that clearly got chipped during install, but if I hadn't flagged them they would still be there. I went around and put the same blue tape on every paver that I had an issue with. Keep in mind that travertine is a natural stone and some imperfections are normal, but if something doesn't seem right I would talk to the contractor about it. It's not too big of a deal to pull up the pavers at this point, so get it how you want it.
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Did you have them remove some because they had deep holes, or even a small hole that went all the way through?
Did they have a problem with you rejecting some of them?
 
I had some issues with some of my coping pieces that had a lot of holes right on the bullnose edge, and a couple of pieces with a lot of deep holes. I didnt really reject any of my pavers that just had natural holes, but that gets pretty subjective. I had some challenges with my paver crew, but they eventually took care of everything I wasn't happy with so it turned out OK. I wluld just talk to your contractor about the pavers that are bothering you. If it comes down to it, you can always offer to pay for the extra material to replace the pavers that you don't like. Most likely it's only a handful of pavers and the cost of the material shouldn't be that much.
 
I had some holes but once they filled with sand you can't even tell unless I point it out and then still you can't see. I only know cause I was down there when they were installing them and I had the same concerns as you. It's easy for them to pull them up before the sand is down cause the have a suction tool that pulls it right out.
So if your really not happy just have them replace because it will give you piece of mind. Otherwise it will come out nice when they fill with samd
 
azgr said:
I had some issues with some of my coping pieces that had a lot of holes right on the bullnose edge, and a couple of pieces with a lot of deep holes. I didnt really reject any of my pavers that just had natural holes, but that gets pretty subjective. I had some challenges with my paver crew, but they eventually took care of everything I wasn't happy with so it turned out OK. I wluld just talk to your contractor about the pavers that are bothering you. If it comes down to it, you can always offer to pay for the extra material to replace the pavers that you don't like. Most likely it's only a handful of pavers and the cost of the material shouldn't be that much.
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Yeah, I'm gonna see how it goes. After what I've paid, it would be tough to pay more for replacement pavers.
 
Just stand there and look out over your pool and think..........."They better be glad Kim and Will are not there" if they start giving you grief LOL I would give them the "teacher stare" and Will would stand behind me with his arms crossed. They would be scrambling to fix each and every one of the ones your marked! LOL

Don't back down. State the facts without emotion. "The ones I marked need to be replaced." No please or anything. It is a statement of fact stated with a smile on your face with a cooler full of water and gatorade. It is YOUR money and YOU will get to look at it every day so get it how YOU want it!

:hug: we will be there in spirit!

Kim:kim:
 

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