Oh! Good to know bc that will ABSOLUTELY happen. We got over 15" of rain in 10 days just 2.5 weeks ago. A simple afternoon storm brought over 3" and flooded the entire road and our front pasture 4 days ago. This will def be brought up!
New Build in NE FL
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Hubby caught the offending bull frog out of the pool and threw him over the fence to the jerk neighbors who are setting off illegal fireworks and terrorizing my horses. May he sing him the song of his people and keep them awake! :lol:
I am setting up everything I need here to help a couple of neighbors with their horses. There are three (2 at one house and 1 at another) that need help to get through the boom-booms. We have it down to a science now so it is much easier to do.
Go "sing" mr. bullfrog! Sing long and loud!
Kim
Go "sing" mr. bullfrog! Sing long and loud!
Kim
Mine are doing OK. It is SO hot and humid even at night that I worry they will get over heated. They can only cool themselves with sweating and once their body temp reaches 105, it actually starts cooking the proteins in their muscles. They run 99-100 degrees normally. I had to call an officer out bc of the illegal mortars last night. He came out and did a drive through bc the kids were in the woods where you couldnt see them with the mortars. He told me to call and request a drive through any time I needed it and remain anaonomys so they dont know its me (I fear retaliation from the kids). I asked if he could come out tonight too. So far we saw him at 630pm but not since but I know he is probably busy. So far neighbors across from the horses and neighbors next to the jerks were setting off legal ones and the higher ups along the river across the main road are setting off professional quality ones. The horses are pacing and trotting but not running. It hit 10 pm and all pretty much stopped except a couple random ones, thank god.
The deck guys were out today and got a lot of work done. We were watching how the guy cuts the pavers and after watching one, we had to stop! He has the same saw used to cut the concrete, so a huge hand held saw, but he had it on the ground and he was straddling it and holding the pavers right next to the blade. Obviously he does it all the time like that but eek! The blade was so close to the pavers that were already set.
They were already starting to brush sand into the joints. There are quite a few pavers that meet the coping that had the edge at the coping sticking up above everything and it is really sharp esp as people will be sitting on the edge of the pool. A few still move but they aren't done so I am waiting until they finish. It seems they set the outer edge in mortar. There is a piece around conduit that has a wide gap but seems to be set in mortar so not sure what can be done. I will just do a final walk through when they finish. I am guessing they come through and cut the channel for the deck drain after they finish?
Here is the clean out pipe. We are going to buy a flat lid to put on and if it doesn't come in grey we can paint it. It is only 3 or 4" so no skimmer covers but the fact a flat lid makes it flush works for me
Coping is the piece on the left and then the high edges and chunks missing at the edge. I think even with sand in these areas, that sharp edge sticking up poses a problem esp bc if there is anything that could cause someone to stub a toe or trip, I will find it
Wide joint by the conduit. I expected a tight joint like around the pipe. Am I being too picky? Seeing the pipe, I know they can do it the way I want.
Another wider joint.
One of our favorite pieces. It is so unique and right in the middle of the covered part of the patio
The deck guys were out today and got a lot of work done. We were watching how the guy cuts the pavers and after watching one, we had to stop! He has the same saw used to cut the concrete, so a huge hand held saw, but he had it on the ground and he was straddling it and holding the pavers right next to the blade. Obviously he does it all the time like that but eek! The blade was so close to the pavers that were already set.
They were already starting to brush sand into the joints. There are quite a few pavers that meet the coping that had the edge at the coping sticking up above everything and it is really sharp esp as people will be sitting on the edge of the pool. A few still move but they aren't done so I am waiting until they finish. It seems they set the outer edge in mortar. There is a piece around conduit that has a wide gap but seems to be set in mortar so not sure what can be done. I will just do a final walk through when they finish. I am guessing they come through and cut the channel for the deck drain after they finish?
Here is the clean out pipe. We are going to buy a flat lid to put on and if it doesn't come in grey we can paint it. It is only 3 or 4" so no skimmer covers but the fact a flat lid makes it flush works for me
Coping is the piece on the left and then the high edges and chunks missing at the edge. I think even with sand in these areas, that sharp edge sticking up poses a problem esp bc if there is anything that could cause someone to stub a toe or trip, I will find it
Wide joint by the conduit. I expected a tight joint like around the pipe. Am I being too picky? Seeing the pipe, I know they can do it the way I want.
Another wider joint.
One of our favorite pieces. It is so unique and right in the middle of the covered part of the patio
- Jun 18, 2015
- 712
- Pool Size
- 11000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
I went out and checked it. There is a slight grade after adding a little more material up by the house. You can see how the bubble is slightly off to the left of center here and then if you look at the concrete foundation under the sidong of the house, you can see like 3" of foundation up next to the house and up to 4" as it goes away from the house. To the left, which is towards the house, there is only about 2" of foundation showing (not in pic). So it was addressed the next day.
I contacted my friends dad again, the one who helped me with the concrete removal questions, and sent him the pics and he confirmed that was approx a 1% grade as the level was only 4' and still showed it being a slight drop.
I contacted my friends dad again, the one who helped me with the concrete removal questions, and sent him the pics and he confirmed that was approx a 1% grade as the level was only 4' and still showed it being a slight drop.
- Jun 18, 2015
- 712
- Pool Size
- 11000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Amy I was thinking the same question..........I went back and looked at the pictures and could see how more of the foundation was showing the further out from the house.
That decking is SO pretty! That one is very neat looking!! I can see why you like it so much.
I would have them redo that chipped/pointy one even if it is mortared in. Can't have you tripping or someone getting hurt by the point.
Those gaps could be closer. Can you get your hand on some of the sand to put there to see what they look like when "finished"?
Kim
That decking is SO pretty! That one is very neat looking!! I can see why you like it so much.
I would have them redo that chipped/pointy one even if it is mortared in. Can't have you tripping or someone getting hurt by the point.
Those gaps could be closer. Can you get your hand on some of the sand to put there to see what they look like when "finished"?
Kim
PB finally called and apologized for not coming out Thurs or after last week when he said he would. Apparently he had his kids this weekend (divorced) and there was drama with the ex. He said he is swamped and has asked the actual #1 owner to come out and see the tile and go from there. Of course he shows up 45 mins after I left to go to a concert (bucket list item complete: see Metallica in concert!). Hubby is here with him when he saw it and we really think they thought I was being dramatic about how bad it was bc apparently this tile guy has done all their tile work and never had any issues. As soon as the #1 PB saw it, he said it was hideous. So they want us to be happy so threw out some options but said if there was something else we wanted, let them know. I know hubby wants to pick whatever is going to get this pool finished so we can swim before Dec.
Regardless, the tile has to be removed. It is awful and just not done well. PB said they will gladly call and order more tile, pay for all of the new tile and shipping, and have it reinstalled and make sure it is done correctly.
OR
Another option, after removing the tile, is to not reinstall it and he will credit us so that money and then some and I can get my Tropics Blue plus glass beads and abalone shell at no cost.
I am seriously torn. Ever since I saw a picture of Lightstream tile, which happened to be accent tile on steps, I have been in love with how it looks. Esp given we have it in on the waterline and the wall, it seems like a given to have accents and also gives it that custom touch.
However, 4-6 weeks to get the tile (if we are lucky though I spoke to Brian at Lightstream today and they have their material issue sorted out and we can get more tile made no problem he says), then installing it again, and then waiting 3 weeks for it to set. So looking at min 7-8 weeks waiting on redoing the glass and proper cure time, maybe longer.
Next week should be the screen. Then final touch ups with lights, electrical, gas, etc. And then plaster. Like without redoing the glass tile, we could be filling in 2-3 weeks or less.
I am so torn. I want my glass but I dont want to wait that long. I know hubby doesn't want to either but will do whatever I want. But the current accent glass is done so poorly that there are concerns about it causing other major issues esp with the plaster if we leave them there and wait for them to pop off and break. Really asking for a can of worms if we do that so they have to go.
What do we do???
I don't get why we have had to have such bad luck with this. It has been one thing after the other. I never thought I would have to sit here and have to make this kind of decision. I had hoped we had enough left over to just redo it but we don't. Help!
Regardless, the tile has to be removed. It is awful and just not done well. PB said they will gladly call and order more tile, pay for all of the new tile and shipping, and have it reinstalled and make sure it is done correctly.
OR
Another option, after removing the tile, is to not reinstall it and he will credit us so that money and then some and I can get my Tropics Blue plus glass beads and abalone shell at no cost.
I am seriously torn. Ever since I saw a picture of Lightstream tile, which happened to be accent tile on steps, I have been in love with how it looks. Esp given we have it in on the waterline and the wall, it seems like a given to have accents and also gives it that custom touch.
However, 4-6 weeks to get the tile (if we are lucky though I spoke to Brian at Lightstream today and they have their material issue sorted out and we can get more tile made no problem he says), then installing it again, and then waiting 3 weeks for it to set. So looking at min 7-8 weeks waiting on redoing the glass and proper cure time, maybe longer.
Next week should be the screen. Then final touch ups with lights, electrical, gas, etc. And then plaster. Like without redoing the glass tile, we could be filling in 2-3 weeks or less.
I am so torn. I want my glass but I dont want to wait that long. I know hubby doesn't want to either but will do whatever I want. But the current accent glass is done so poorly that there are concerns about it causing other major issues esp with the plaster if we leave them there and wait for them to pop off and break. Really asking for a can of worms if we do that so they have to go.
What do we do???
I don't get why we have had to have such bad luck with this. It has been one thing after the other. I never thought I would have to sit here and have to make this kind of decision. I had hoped we had enough left over to just redo it but we don't. Help!
- Jun 18, 2015
- 712
- Pool Size
- 11000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
What about the Lightstream beach shells like Suz has? Apparently no wait time and they are amazing! Will try to insert photos here.
Here is my idea.........see if you can find a local glass tile that you like and use that as the accents. You have the lightstream on the wall and that will over shadow the accent tiles. Plus they will be in the water so will look different that the ones out of the water. Now if you can find something like Suz's beach tile........oh yeah!
Oh another idea!! Your non-lightstream water line tile......cut into fourths and used as the accents. Don't do all the way across, just every few inches or so. That will tie everything together!
Kim
Oh another idea!! Your non-lightstream water line tile......cut into fourths and used as the accents. Don't do all the way across, just every few inches or so. That will tie everything together!
Kim
For some reason, I feel strongly about this (me! Ms. Wishy-washy).
No way would I replace trim or step tiles with Lightstreams. As much as I love the Shell Beach LS tiles, I don't think they are right for your pool.
Look for a glass tile available that will go with what you have. It's not like your glass tile is only one color and 1 shade. You'll find something that will look great under water. Don't go expensive. As Kim said, under water they will just make an effect. Subtle, helpful in seeing the edges. They aren't a focus on your pool. Your pool is elegant.
Definitely get your Tropics Blue, glass beads, and abalone shells. OMG! That will be gorgeous, and you see the effect everywhere!!! I would pounce on that like a cat on a mouse! I think this is your angel giving you an opportunity to do something even better - the same as the paver issue turned into your gorgeous silver travertine.
Well, I gave you more than 2 cents worth, but that may be all it's worth. It's so hard to see when you're exhausted from the build and so close to it. To me... the choice seems as clear as TFP water!!
As they say, you gotta live with it. Let us know if we need to help shop for reasonably priced step tiles.
Hugs,
Suz
No way would I replace trim or step tiles with Lightstreams. As much as I love the Shell Beach LS tiles, I don't think they are right for your pool.
Look for a glass tile available that will go with what you have. It's not like your glass tile is only one color and 1 shade. You'll find something that will look great under water. Don't go expensive. As Kim said, under water they will just make an effect. Subtle, helpful in seeing the edges. They aren't a focus on your pool. Your pool is elegant.
Definitely get your Tropics Blue, glass beads, and abalone shells. OMG! That will be gorgeous, and you see the effect everywhere!!! I would pounce on that like a cat on a mouse! I think this is your angel giving you an opportunity to do something even better - the same as the paver issue turned into your gorgeous silver travertine.
Well, I gave you more than 2 cents worth, but that may be all it's worth. It's so hard to see when you're exhausted from the build and so close to it. To me... the choice seems as clear as TFP water!!
As they say, you gotta live with it. Let us know if we need to help shop for reasonably priced step tiles.
Hugs,
Suz
Thanks ladies.
I was looking at our ceramic and trying to think of how to incorporate it. I will try to cut some down and play with the look.
I am bummed bc I had this vision of the pool and the glass on the edges was part of it. From what the PB told me, when I brought up the fact that they set the glass the same way as the ceramic so I wasn't sure why we were paying so much for glass install, but he said anything other than a 6" ceramic tile cost more to install. So if we found a local glass, we would be paying the same amount to install, and then wouldn't get the credit of the tile towards the plaster and glass etc.
I have 6 full sheets of Lightstream left over. It isn't enough to run even one strip of glass on all areas but maybe if the individual tiles are spaced..... But again, that takes away the plaster upgrades.
I know the accent tile isn't what MAKES the pool. We have the waterline, we have the stunning wall, not to mention the deck now. So foregoing the accent to get the entire pool finish with glass and abalone BLING well, that might have a bigger WOW than just accent tiles.
So maybe bright blue glass beads, maybe a little more black than they normally add to make the Tropics Blue just a touch deeper, and then 2? bags of abalone hand casted? I did confirm there is some already mixed into that plaster.
I will need to cut some ceramic tile down and see how that could look or play with the idea of a few of my remaining Lightstream dotted at least along the steps? Just need to see what it looks like and then also talk with PB and see how much he is willing to give us to "make sure we are happy" like he said.
I was looking at our ceramic and trying to think of how to incorporate it. I will try to cut some down and play with the look.
I am bummed bc I had this vision of the pool and the glass on the edges was part of it. From what the PB told me, when I brought up the fact that they set the glass the same way as the ceramic so I wasn't sure why we were paying so much for glass install, but he said anything other than a 6" ceramic tile cost more to install. So if we found a local glass, we would be paying the same amount to install, and then wouldn't get the credit of the tile towards the plaster and glass etc.
I have 6 full sheets of Lightstream left over. It isn't enough to run even one strip of glass on all areas but maybe if the individual tiles are spaced..... But again, that takes away the plaster upgrades.
I know the accent tile isn't what MAKES the pool. We have the waterline, we have the stunning wall, not to mention the deck now. So foregoing the accent to get the entire pool finish with glass and abalone BLING well, that might have a bigger WOW than just accent tiles.
So maybe bright blue glass beads, maybe a little more black than they normally add to make the Tropics Blue just a touch deeper, and then 2? bags of abalone hand casted? I did confirm there is some already mixed into that plaster.
I will need to cut some ceramic tile down and see how that could look or play with the idea of a few of my remaining Lightstream dotted at least along the steps? Just need to see what it looks like and then also talk with PB and see how much he is willing to give us to "make sure we are happy" like he said.
And lets just add to the pile bc why not....
All the paver crates are empty. They have the remaining pavers over by the spa and are finishing up the deck. That means the extra that was ordered specifically for the little patios outside the screen enclosure doors is gone.
When the estimate was being made for TM, I was on the phone with PB making sure we had enough product for the stairs, the coping, the deck, AND the 2 patios outside the doors. We even ordered less than a full crate to get the extra needed for the patios.
How do we order 10% extra to cover breakage (which there were less than 8 pieces of broken pavers) and the extra 64 square feet for the patios and after just putting in the deck, not have enough left over? I specifically asked to make sure there was enough to cover cutting and breakage and was assured yes we would have enough. I was willing to order more just in case and PB insisted we were fine. Esp bc TM will cover any breakage over 4% even though we expected 10%.
Back in Jan, before we even broke ground, I made up a Word document with pics and thorough explanations of the ideas I had and expectations. Included in that was the patios.
I am getting so beyond frustrated. Because of either the PB or subs, we are having to either settle or completely change our plans for the pool, it is costing either more time or more money and at this point, time is more valuable. We started Feb 16 and the contract says 70 working days. Now if I want my accents, I have to wait at min 7 weeks or settle and not get them. And now to get the patios??? Lord knows.
When I was on the phone with PB on Wednesday, hearing the options for the glass and finish, I mentioned to him that it didnt look like there was going to be enough pavers for the patio and he had no answer.
And here's a fun tid bit - when the spa walls ended up being super wavy after the shotcrete, it was discovered that in order to make a level surface for the stone on the spa, they had to float out the walls so much so that the 12 x 24 coping that was ordered specifically for the spa would no longer work bc the spa wall is now too wide. So I mentioned to PB about this and how more coping would be needed and he said he wanted to wait and see how much of the pavers were left over. My issue with that was that the TM travertine and local travertine look different so they would have to make sure to mix them well. He also wanted them to use the left over pavers for the wall coping. Guess what??? No pavers left over for the spa. None left over for the wall. And none for my patios.
Deck guys are here now finishing up I guess. Hubby said he saw coping pieces that have saw marks all over them. Ughhhh
Electricians just showed up to install pool lights. When we mentioned that there are spa, pool, bubbler, sheer decent, and lights on the deck, they were totally caught off guard. Now they are trying to put the lights in the bubblers and the wrong size conduit was installed and the lights won't go in. Lord geezus....
I know my patience is wavering right now as this is a very bad time of year for me. A few days ago, it was 1 year since I had to have THAT TALK with my dads oncologist and be told he had 3 to 6 months left. And then 3 weeks later he died. So yeah, I am more on edge than normal but this shouldn't be this stressful.
All the paver crates are empty. They have the remaining pavers over by the spa and are finishing up the deck. That means the extra that was ordered specifically for the little patios outside the screen enclosure doors is gone.
When the estimate was being made for TM, I was on the phone with PB making sure we had enough product for the stairs, the coping, the deck, AND the 2 patios outside the doors. We even ordered less than a full crate to get the extra needed for the patios.
How do we order 10% extra to cover breakage (which there were less than 8 pieces of broken pavers) and the extra 64 square feet for the patios and after just putting in the deck, not have enough left over? I specifically asked to make sure there was enough to cover cutting and breakage and was assured yes we would have enough. I was willing to order more just in case and PB insisted we were fine. Esp bc TM will cover any breakage over 4% even though we expected 10%.
Back in Jan, before we even broke ground, I made up a Word document with pics and thorough explanations of the ideas I had and expectations. Included in that was the patios.
I am getting so beyond frustrated. Because of either the PB or subs, we are having to either settle or completely change our plans for the pool, it is costing either more time or more money and at this point, time is more valuable. We started Feb 16 and the contract says 70 working days. Now if I want my accents, I have to wait at min 7 weeks or settle and not get them. And now to get the patios??? Lord knows.
When I was on the phone with PB on Wednesday, hearing the options for the glass and finish, I mentioned to him that it didnt look like there was going to be enough pavers for the patio and he had no answer.
And here's a fun tid bit - when the spa walls ended up being super wavy after the shotcrete, it was discovered that in order to make a level surface for the stone on the spa, they had to float out the walls so much so that the 12 x 24 coping that was ordered specifically for the spa would no longer work bc the spa wall is now too wide. So I mentioned to PB about this and how more coping would be needed and he said he wanted to wait and see how much of the pavers were left over. My issue with that was that the TM travertine and local travertine look different so they would have to make sure to mix them well. He also wanted them to use the left over pavers for the wall coping. Guess what??? No pavers left over for the spa. None left over for the wall. And none for my patios.
Deck guys are here now finishing up I guess. Hubby said he saw coping pieces that have saw marks all over them. Ughhhh
Electricians just showed up to install pool lights. When we mentioned that there are spa, pool, bubbler, sheer decent, and lights on the deck, they were totally caught off guard. Now they are trying to put the lights in the bubblers and the wrong size conduit was installed and the lights won't go in. Lord geezus....
I know my patience is wavering right now as this is a very bad time of year for me. A few days ago, it was 1 year since I had to have THAT TALK with my dads oncologist and be told he had 3 to 6 months left. And then 3 weeks later he died. So yeah, I am more on edge than normal but this shouldn't be this stressful.
And now the electricians are leaving with nothing being done. AGAIN. This is the 2nd time they have come out and nothing was done bc parts are missing or things were done wrong.
- Oct 18, 2009
- 3,648
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- 6000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
We feel your pain. I remember that our pb over ordered our pavers and we were freaking out but he said that he rather have too much because he did not want the subs to run out of material. He also said that he could return unopened crates as tremron was a local company.
Nothing..............I have lots to say but nothing that would be allowed gurrrrrrrrrrrrrr UNREAL!
I'm sorry that you are dealing with so many issues at once! I get the difficult time of year thing too... it's coming around to that time for me as well [emoji20]
I think you need someone (PB) to supervise the subs. It should be his responsibility to make sure these things are getting done correctly.
I hope that it gets corrected and that you get a big credit, so you can do extra beads & shells in your finish!!
I think you need someone (PB) to supervise the subs. It should be his responsibility to make sure these things are getting done correctly.
I hope that it gets corrected and that you get a big credit, so you can do extra beads & shells in your finish!!
Deck crew has finished. As a whole, everything looks lovely but there are areas that need attention. Some of the coping has saw cuts into the surface, quite a few areas are significantly raised which will catch a toe or shoe, one outer edge piece which I assume is supposed to be set in a mortar bed to keep its place is shifting and loose, lots of areas where the sand only fills the bottom half of the joint or no sand at all, and the deck drain is only half way across the deck (thinking that they didnt have a long enough drain so just installed what they had). I am not even picking out the pieces that have tons of scratches all over them.
There were 10 actual pieces of travertine that were broken in the shipment (out of over 1600 sq ft) so not a concern. However, there are like 8 pieces of 8x8 and 3 pieces of 8x16 pavers left over. We also laid out all the 12x24 bull nose pieces that the coping guy cut into small strips and there aren't enough to cover the spa, much less the wall. So all those pavers he was counting on using to make up for the lacking coping is gone. Along with my patios.
I have tried calling PB twice and have been sent to voicemail. We voiced our concern about getting more coping travertine from the local store as they were the ones that took 5 weeks to send us the correct stone and we were worried that they would take that long again if more travertine was needed yet PB insisted on waiting until the deck was done. And here we are. Out of product and sitting here.
Shall continue to try to call him....
Here are pics of the deck and some problem areas. It is bright and sunny today so a little blinding. The screen will help from us potentially signaling a plane from the reflection! Haha but as a whole, it is stunning.
Where they cut the edge of the coping with the saw and left jagged edges
Saw mark deep into coping
High spots. Most of these I found on accident bc my flip flop got caught on them and I almost tripped
Chipped and no sand
Wider joint and no sand
They put sand in a lot of areas and then were using the water hose to rinse and maybe hope the sand packed in? Lots of places look like the top half of sand was washed out. Quite a few spots look like they can be fixed with just adding more sand. Then other areas just need to be leveled bc of high spots (one area next to the drain sticks up 1/4"). Sadly, if I wanted the scratched pieces fixed, it wouldn't matter bc there is nothing left. Just add that to the list....
These are just a few right by the patio doors. I can't get them to disappear. This is just a 6 foot area. These circular scratches and other ones are ALL over. $10,000 in travertine and they scratch the snot out of it before we can even enjoy it. These scratches just happened too bc I have pics from 2 days ago and they weren't there.
There were 10 actual pieces of travertine that were broken in the shipment (out of over 1600 sq ft) so not a concern. However, there are like 8 pieces of 8x8 and 3 pieces of 8x16 pavers left over. We also laid out all the 12x24 bull nose pieces that the coping guy cut into small strips and there aren't enough to cover the spa, much less the wall. So all those pavers he was counting on using to make up for the lacking coping is gone. Along with my patios.
I have tried calling PB twice and have been sent to voicemail. We voiced our concern about getting more coping travertine from the local store as they were the ones that took 5 weeks to send us the correct stone and we were worried that they would take that long again if more travertine was needed yet PB insisted on waiting until the deck was done. And here we are. Out of product and sitting here.
Shall continue to try to call him....
Here are pics of the deck and some problem areas. It is bright and sunny today so a little blinding. The screen will help from us potentially signaling a plane from the reflection! Haha but as a whole, it is stunning.
Where they cut the edge of the coping with the saw and left jagged edges
Saw mark deep into coping
High spots. Most of these I found on accident bc my flip flop got caught on them and I almost tripped
Chipped and no sand
Wider joint and no sand
They put sand in a lot of areas and then were using the water hose to rinse and maybe hope the sand packed in? Lots of places look like the top half of sand was washed out. Quite a few spots look like they can be fixed with just adding more sand. Then other areas just need to be leveled bc of high spots (one area next to the drain sticks up 1/4"). Sadly, if I wanted the scratched pieces fixed, it wouldn't matter bc there is nothing left. Just add that to the list....
These are just a few right by the patio doors. I can't get them to disappear. This is just a 6 foot area. These circular scratches and other ones are ALL over. $10,000 in travertine and they scratch the snot out of it before we can even enjoy it. These scratches just happened too bc I have pics from 2 days ago and they weren't there.