New Build in NE FL

Thanks Sherry.

So a cover wont work apparently with the clean out pipe. Hubby just told me bc of the mess up with the height the beam was shot, the deck is below the level of the pipe so this ugly pvc pipe is going to stick up out of the deck, not be hidden under the pavers like PB said. Originally we were not extending the patio over that far bc of the pipe but he said it could be hidden under a paver. So yeah that stinks.
 
String.......So how does the other side away from the string look? MAYBE the string was to tell them to NOT go past it??? This is the hard part of watching "art" being done. You really cannot know what it will end up looking like until it is done :/ so............lets see what they end up doing.

air chisel! SWEET! Bet they would have just smashed it with sledge hammer and hit house side a time or two. Good move on their part! Glad that is over!

scratches-I would put blue tape on the bad ones and ask them to replace them. They can use the scratched ones to cut for the detail work

rocking ones-two pieces of blue tape to make them different than the scratches

pipe-shot us a pic and share it- I am SURE someone will have an idea or two to pretty it up!

That does look SO pretty! I am with you on the design..........NO way I could do it LOL

Kim:kim:
 
Good idea on the tape. Will go pick some up. It's 940 and no one is here though they made it seem like they were working all weekend but at least it gives me more time to find the rocking pavers.

Here is the line which I am assuming is for the drain. I don't see the pavers as being as noticeable that they are slanting but a drain that is more visible likely will. Hate to nit pick but $100k+ invested in this and I want it done as perfectly as possible. At the far end, the edge of the pavers is just touching the line. The only thing I can think of is that the footer qas not poured perfectly parallel to the wall opposite of it so the guys are going off how the pavers meet the outside edge instead of the house?
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The clean out drain.
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Good idea on the tape. Will go pick some up. It's 940 and no one is here though they made it seem like they were working all weekend but at least it gives me more time to find the rocking pavers.

Here is the line which I am assuming is for the drain. I don't see the pavers as being as noticeable that they are slanting but a drain that is more visible likely will. Hate to nit pick but $100k+ invested in this and I want it done as perfectly as possible. At the far end, the edge of the pavers is just touching the line. The only thing I can think of is that the footer qas not poured perfectly parallel to the wall opposite of it so the guys are going off how the pavers meet the outside edge instead of the house?
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The clean out drain.
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How much does that cap stick up above the pavers?
 
I have the skimmer lids Kim posted. They are very good quality. I bought the plastic since they would be close to my pool. If it's a high traffic area, I think the plastic would hold up for you. Really high traffic, and you might consider the metal if that won't cause a safety issue.

Check your scratches on the travertine. If you haven't already tried this - rub your finger over the scratch (don't spit of your finger). If it goes away then don't worry about it.
If you can still see the scratch, then slap the blue tape on it!

You will get scratches just from everyday use (sliding chairs, etc), but they're usually superficial and temporary like chalk. Walking on them or rain makes them go away.
 
The lid sticks up a good 1/2" if not more above the top of the travertine. I haven't been able to measure exactly but I cant put a flush cover over it like it was originally suggested.

I tried to rub the scratches out and nothing. Then tried wetting my finger and nothing. I am trying not to focus on the ones on the pavers bc they do have a lot of variation and hope they disappear. The ones on the coping however are deep and I can catch my nail on them. I def want them fixed.

What is standard with this installation process of travertine? I went out and walked on the deck they have laid down right now and many areas are moving, as in step on the left side and the right side lifts up, vose versa. They def are rocking and not just shifting bc they are new. In my mind, if you try to run the compacting machine over them, they will break bc of the unlevel base. But if this is normal and then a final step goes back and fixes this problem later, then I don't want to fuss about an issue that is going to be addressed later.

I saw a video onlime that said this string is ran to set the square line to ensure your pavers are being laid straight. Given that they have also extended the pavers all the way forward up to the coping, I am assuming this is also where the drain is going. The pavers are right at the line on the outside edge where they started and gradually move away from the line as the pavers move away from the outside edge, over an inch of drifting.

I also stressed that these were supposed to be graded away from the house and they kept saying Level! And I'm like no graded and gave up and told the construction manager who said he would take care of it but I watched them lay this base and only set to level, no grade at all.

I am being neurotic about the grading and such bc we are in a flood evacuation zone. We get a LOT of rain and water issues here so ensuring this deck is graded properly was my #1 concern when interviewing pool builders esp with having a large body of water being built close to the house. I know for a fact we will have times when the pool will over flow and need to plan for where the water will go. And if the deck is level, it can come to the house. I mean, I even had them grade my concrete in my barn so that it always ran water away from the center. It just seems like common sense.

So do I just need to wait until they finish and then do a final walk through and pick out any scratched pavers and moving ones then?

Lastly, we are having the travertine laid outside the doors to the screen as little patios. However, we don't know where the doors are going until they bring the screen out here as it is custom assembled on site. Can they just prep the ground, add base, and lay the pavers after the fact?

935 and no one is here. We were told first the deck would be done Sunday. Then changed to Monday. Well it is Monday and no one here. Not sure how they plan to finish as this is over 1500 sq ft and they have laid maybe 100 sq ft.
 
Finally got our termite bond done. Speaking to the guy, who has worked for our pest company for 18 years, he said this treatment lasts 10 years. Also, given we have a monolithic slab foundation, we are much less susceptible to termites. They do inspections and unless we have signs of issues, they will not need to drill our pavers at all. So that is good to know.
 
So the pavers will move until they are all finished and sweep in the sand. Really you shouldn't be doing to much walking on them right now because you can shift them and now they are only laid down and tapped in with a mallet. Once they push the sand in and they are tight then you go walk for the loose ones and they guys can reset those ones if any. They will use a cool looking suction machine to pull them out.
As far as chipping corners we just had a discussion on azgun page or another one of the new Arizona builds ( I'll try to search so I can link for you later tonight). But you have a few options. 1. Have them switch it out right away. 2. Wait until it's all done and the sand is put in. Most of the time the sand matches your paver , however, I'm not sure there is a silver color.... I can tell you on mine that I had a few chips and the smaller ones are no long noticeable after the addition of sand and it blends right in. The bigger ones I had changed but at the end of the day it's what makes you happy.
As far as the scratches they may provide extra character but no way to tell until it's all done. I have a coping piece with a mark that looks like someone put a wet cup and I dislike it and didn't catch it until to late and I have other pieces with scratches that look normal and I like it. So basically if there is something you hate change it now and some of the other stuff let it ride for a few days and see how it turns out and if you still don't like or it doesn't flow mark it and have them fix
 

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Thanks Will. The movement I figured was bc they werent set but some are literally rocking back and forth with clearly unlevel base. These guys literally picked then up and set them down by hand, sometimes kicking them with their boot to shift them, but no mallets were used. I will wait to say anything until it is done and go from there.

I went out and looked at the scratched pavers again and while I see them, they could blend in with the pavers movement and variation so will wait and see once more are laid out. I def want the gouged coping fixed. As far as the corners, the sand comments make sense. I know travertine is perfectly imperfect so to speak and there are chips and holes and such which is why I wanted to see what others did with theirs. I will just keep note of areas that concern me and will wait until they are all done and go from there.

This feed back from others is exactly what I was looking for bc I didnt want to go out there and start nit picking if it is something that normally gets addressed at the end of the job.
 
The lid sticks up a good 1/2" if not more above the top of the travertine. I haven't been able to measure exactly but I cant put a flush cover over it like it was originally suggested.

There are extensions for the clean out which would bring it to the level of the pavers. The extension has a flat cap that would be flush with the travertine.

A plumber would know what to do.
 
Looking around and I found this. It is part of a Hayward skimmer. Not sure what it is technically. Thinking that would give a base for a cover to attach to? Then we could get the decorative cover Kim shared.
https://www.poolpartsonline.com/p-84335-hayward-sp1075-1075t-1076-1077-skimmer-parts.aspx

So get a different cover for the actual pipe so it doesnt stick up above the pavers, then get this part to give the cover something to attach to and the lower part can rest on the base. Maybe???
 
So smart!! Measure the decorative lid carefully. I assume my skimmer is just standard, but my decorative lid is a little small. I WASN'T careful with the measurements. Lol! Amazon should probably have the inner ring measurement - you know, in the questions section, if you don't find them in the specs or reviews of Amazon. Then match it up with the Hayward parts.
 
The lid sticks up a good 1/2" if not more above the top of the travertine. I haven't been able to measure exactly but I cant put a flush cover over it like it was originally suggested.

I tried to rub the scratches out and nothing. Then tried wetting my finger and nothing. I am trying not to focus on the ones on the pavers bc they do have a lot of variation and hope they disappear. The ones on the coping however are deep and I can catch my nail on them. I def want them fixed.

What is standard with this installation process of travertine? I went out and walked on the deck they have laid down right now and many areas are moving, as in step on the left side and the right side lifts up, vose versa. They def are rocking and not just shifting bc they are new. In my mind, if you try to run the compacting machine over them, they will break bc of the unlevel base. But if this is normal and then a final step goes back and fixes this problem later, then I don't want to fuss about an issue that is going to be addressed later.

I saw a video onlime that said this string is ran to set the square line to ensure your pavers are being laid straight. Given that they have also extended the pavers all the way forward up to the coping, I am assuming this is also where the drain is going. The pavers are right at the line on the outside edge where they started and gradually move away from the line as the pavers move away from the outside edge, over an inch of drifting.

I also stressed that these were supposed to be graded away from the house and they kept saying Level! And I'm like no graded and gave up and told the construction manager who said he would take care of it but I watched them lay this base and only set to level, no grade at all.

I am being neurotic about the grading and such bc we are in a flood evacuation zone. We get a LOT of rain and water issues here so ensuring this deck is graded properly was my #1 concern when interviewing pool builders esp with having a large body of water being built close to the house. I know for a fact we will have times when the pool will over flow and need to plan for where the water will go. And if the deck is level, it can come to the house. I mean, I even had them grade my concrete in my barn so that it always ran water away from the center. It just seems like common sense.

So do I just need to wait until they finish and then do a final walk through and pick out any scratched pavers and moving ones then?

Lastly, we are having the travertine laid outside the doors to the screen as little patios. However, we don't know where the doors are going until they bring the screen out here as it is custom assembled on site. Can they just prep the ground, add base, and lay the pavers after the fact? Yes but screen guys will simply adjust doors if necessary.

935 and no one is here. We were told first the deck would be done Sunday. Then changed to Monday. Well it is Monday and no one here. Not sure how they plan to finish as this is over 1500 sq ft and they have laid maybe 100 sq ft.

Travertine will scratch. Do you plan to seal? If so that may resolve the loose ones if the sealing company knows what they're doing. Use the seal n lock method they will wet sand the joints.
If you are not happy with coping better change it now on the deep scratches. In Florida travertine is laid on crushed concrete. They will settle and get loose over time.
Adding additional deck drain may solve your flooding issues.
Did you not get an overflow line from skimmer installed? Request it now prior to them laying pavers. With all the rain we had my new pool doesn't overflow with it. I had 1600 laid in a day depends on the crew...
 
Travertine will scratch. Do you plan to seal? If so that may resolve the loose ones if the sealing company knows what they're doing. Use the seal n lock method they will wet sand the joints.
If you are not happy with coping better change it now on the deep scratches. In Florida travertine is laid on crushed concrete. They will settle and get loose over time.
Adding additional deck drain may solve your flooding issues.
Did you not get an overflow line from skimmer installed? Request it now prior to them laying pavers. With all the rain we had my new pool doesn't overflow with it. I had 1600 laid in a day depends on the crew...

I have no idea about the overflow line on skimmer. How would I know?

I wanted to seal the travertine just bc I prefer how it looks when it is wet. At this point, I have more faith in my own abilities than these subs.

Looking around where they took their 2.5 hour siesta in the van the other day, I found multiple packets of mayo, hot sauce, mustard, and tons of cigarette butts. Yesterday hubby found the dog running around with a cottage cheese container. I get construction debries but all this food and trash just thrown on the ground?! If we lived in these uppity neighborhoods, no way that would fly.

In regards to that ring I found, I posted a question asking for the actual diameter. All it lists is it is 3 inches high. I found 2 skimmer lids. One is 7.1" and the other is 9.1" so will see what will work. One part I found, an extender, was 8 7/8" diameter so would likely work too.

In other news, we have a flipping bull frog in the pool. I caught one a few weeks ago on the back porch and sent him over the fence to the neighbors pasture and huge pond and seems a smaller one has moved in. Sucker doesn't realize he cannot get out of the pool and once the sump pump is back on, eventually he will run out of places to hide. Sent the German (our German shorthair pointer) in after him but he was more interested in grabbing the smaller frogs. Stupid thing makes an awful noise and keeps me from sleeping without ear plugs. Anyone want some frog legs???? The one we got out of the pond 2 years ago was BIG and even louder than these 2.
 
The overflow line is a simple solution to prevent overflowing. They attach PVC pipe to rear of skimmer(usually a punch out for it) and it drains the pool when too full--kinda like a sink. Ask your pool builder it should be included. You have to do prior to pavers though
 

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