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I am unable to draw a little sketch right now. Can someone help me out here and sketch the three-way valves plumbing or is there a link there too?
 
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Why is the capacity of the CCP420 the same as the capacity of the CCP520 yet the filter area is more on the latter unit?
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Turnover capacity is based on flow rate, not filter area.

You are not going to be pushing maximum flow rates through those filters anyway. They are theoretical number.
 
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Got it. So Normally Open is pump to filter and Closed is pump to waste.

One more question. Which Model Micro Brite Lights The Micro Brite Lights are all the same except for the cord length? They do white and a range of colors?
 
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One more question. Which Model Micro Brite Lights?
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There are only two model Microbrites - White or Color changing

Pentair LED Pool Lights - Further Reading

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Ordered today through the plumber..

1 PENTAIR HTR 400 MASTERTEMP NA
HEATER PENTAIR MASTERTEMP 400K BTU LOW NOX NATURAL 460736

2 PENTAIR PMP INTELLIFLO VSF
PUMP PENTAIR INTELLIFLO 2 VSF VARIABLE SPEED 011056 (Backordered until??)

1 PENTAIR XFMR 120 TO 12 13 14 VAC 100W
TRANSFORMER POOL RATED 12-14V 100W 619962 PENTAIR

1 WATERWAY VAC LOCK 1 12"/ MPT GRAY
GREY VAC LOCK

1 PENTAIR INTELICTR SYS LDCNTR SLT I5PS
CLC - 5PSIC40 INTELLICENTER PENTAIR POOL/SPA I5PS W/ SALT
IC40

1 PENTAIR FLT CNC PLS 420
FILTER PENTAIR CARTRIDGE 420SQFT CLEAN & CLEAR PLUS

1 PENTAIR MICROBRITE COLOR 50FT
LIGHT PENTAIR MICROBRITE COLOR 50FT CORD

4 PENTAIR MICROBRITE COLOR 100FT
LIGHT PENTAIR MICROBRITE COLOR 100FT CORD

1 PENTAIR MICROBRITE COLOR 150FT
LIGHT PENTAIR MICROBRITE COLOR 150FT CORD

Here's all the items included in the plumber's quote (parts and labor):

1 Base Pool And Spa Plumbing Up To 6 Jets Including 2 Three Way
Valves Pentair Or Jandy ,20' of 2" pvc pipe for pool return 20'of 2"
pvc pipe for pool main drain, 20' of 3/4" pvc pipe for fill line

1 Spa By Pass Loop With 3 Port Jandy & Pentair Valve
1 Pool Cleaner Valve
7 Jets Extra in Booster Pump Total Of 13 Jets
1 Raised Spa Check Valve
5 Bonding (Extra ) One For Salt System 4 For Predeck
1 Auto Fill Pour & Lid With Regulator 3/4" If Needed
3 Slab To Set Equipment
1 Pump Set buster jets
1 Chlorinator Set Or Stub For salt
1 Water Bond For Low Voltage Lights (Not sure if required for MicroBrite Lights, leftover from GlobeBrite's possibly?)
4 Bolt Equipment To Slab (Each)
1 3" Overflow Pipe
1 Extra Pour & Lid Clear For Skimmer
1 3/4" Vacuum Breaker Valve For Fill Line
1 Check Valves ( Extra) Salt System
2 2 Port Jandy & Pentair Valve 2" By 2 1/2" Booster Jet Inlet & Outlet
30' Pool Return 2" PVC Pipe (Per Foot)
20' Pool Return 1/12" PVC Pipe (Per Foot)
20' Pool Return 1" PVC Pipe (Per Foot)
35' Pool Cleaner 2" PVC Pipe (Per Foot)
55' Spa Run 2 1/2" Suc. 2" Ret. 1 1/2" Air
55' Booster Jet Run 2 1/2" Suc. 2" Ret. 1 1/2" Air
100' 2" PVC Pipe (Per Foot) 2 Solar Lines
50' 3/4" Electric pipe Conduit Solar Sensor
90' 11/2" Poly Gas (Per Foot)
 
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Talking to the guy at the jobber warehouse, he's telling me that cartridge filters are harder to clean than DE filters. I know how much of a PITA it is to clean a DE filter but have no experience with a cartridge filter.
 
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I know how much of a PITA it is to clean a DE filter but have no experience with a cartridge filter
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It will take you 45 mins the first time and then 30 everytime after that. With a 420 Sq ft on 11k gallons you could go seasons without cleanings.

We recommend at least once per season if you never reach the 25% PSI increase that others do.
 
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Talking to the guy at the jobber warehouse, he's telling me that cartridge filters are harder to clean than DE filters. I know how much of a PITA it is to clean a DE filter but have no experience with a cartridge filter.
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SW,

I have two DE filters and a larger cartridge filter.

I'd say it takes me about the same amount of time to clean either of them, but it is much harder to clean a DE filter. Then you have to have a place for the old DE to go, and you have to add DE when you are done.

I'd had both and I will never buy another DE filter again. In fact, the two DE filters that I have at rent house pools no longer have MPV valves and they get cleaned twice a year. Once they die, they will be replaced by larger cartridge filters. The cartridges should last 7 to 10 years.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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Electrical Quote:

Base Pool Electric Include
VS Pump & Master Temp Hook Up
110V Outlet at Pool Equipment
Install Pool & Spa Light J-Box at Pool Equipment
1 Return Trip After Gunite

Intellicenter Hook up
Chlorinator Electric Hook up
Wireless Interface Hook Up
220V Gfi Single Pump Protection
Add'l Motor Hook Up
Transformer Hook up
Light hook up
Additional Pool Light Juntion Box
240V Main to Pool Eq Approx 15 ft
Misc Conduit With Wire @ Eq
Pool Light Run #1.2.3, 3
Reef Light Run #1,2 2
Spa Light Run #1
 
Any thoughts on this?

1 Water Bond For Low Voltage Lights (Not sure if required for MicroBrite Lights, leftover from GlobeBrite's possibly?)
 
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Any thoughts on this?

1 Water Bond For Low Voltage Lights (Not sure if required for MicroBrite Lights, leftover from GlobeBrite's possibly?)
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There's no place to bond the microbrites. there's no niche for them. I'd have to double-check my transformers, but I only recall that they are grounded, not bonded.
 
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Any thoughts on this?

1 Water Bond For Low Voltage Lights (Not sure if required for MicroBrite Lights, leftover from GlobeBrite's possibly?)
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You need an alternative water bond to the pool since LED lights cannot do it.

I think your electrician is saying he will provide and alternate water bond. You should ask where that is going to be installed.
 
Interestingly enough it is in the plumber's quote but the plumber and electrician basically work together as a team so that's probably why. At any rate it is $55 on an estimate a couple orders of magnitude higher so it probably isn't worth the worry..
 

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