Looking for replacement suggestions - broken Pentair SuperFlo SF-N1-1A
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- Start date
- Jul 21, 2013
- 53,100
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
That motor is beyond end of life. A long-time seal leak has destroyed it. The noise you hear is, most likely, the rotor being pulled into the stator because the bearings are so bad. This motor can replace it:
354805S - Pump Motor Square Flange 1 HP 3-Phase TEFC 208-230/460V Almond - Pentair
This is a Pentair Almond TEFC 3-Phase Square Flange Motor, 208-230/460 Volts, 60 Hz, 1 HP. This motor is used in the WhisperFlo pumps.Pentair replacement motors have been carefully engineered to meet the rugged demands of the pool and spa industry. Two sealed ball bearings (with large 304...
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If you decide to get a new SuperFlo VSP, be aware that you will need a very-difficult-to-obtain communication cable to operate it with your existing automation. The Whisperflo VST has the same issue. You will need to install a 20A Siemans GFCB in place of the pump breaker you now have.
You would be better off with an Intelliflo 011056. They are supposed to come with the proper communication cable. It will communicate with your automation.
There are still a few places that carry to exact pump you have, according to their website (Leslie's), but they won't be around for long as they are no longer DOE compliant. Existing stock can be sold, but they can no longer be made in or for this country.
This looks like a single speed 3 phase pump motor. 354805S.
It won't work for this pump.
pool360.poolcorp.com
It won't work for this pump.
| Brand | Pentair |
| EnclosureDesign | TEFC |
| FinishColor | Almond |
| FlangeType | Square |
| ForUseWith | WhisperFlo® High Performance Pumps |
| FrequencyRating | 60 Hz |
| HP | 1 |
| Item | Motor |
| NumberOfSpeed | 1-Speed |
| Phase | 3-Phase |
| VoltageRating | 208/230/460 V |
POOL360 - 1HP 3PH 230/460V ALMOND SQFL ODP MOTOR
1HP 3PH 230/460V ALMOND SQFL ODP MOTOR
pool360.poolcorp.com
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I don't think that the 354805S would work.
In any case, it does not come with a drive.
I would just get the whole pump.
In any case, it does not come with a drive.
I would just get the whole pump.
- Product # : PAC-101-9962
- Mfg : PENTAIR WATER POOL AND SPA INC
- Mfg # : 354805S
- Department : PUMPS
- Product Line : Motors, Commercial
- UOM ( Default ) : EA
- Obsolete : This product is not obsolete.
- Ship Weight (lbs) : 27.00
- Shipping Dimensions : 23.00x9.00x12.00
- Product UPC : 788379865368
It is, same as a VSP without the VFD. Used many of them, especially in some areas of my town that have voltage of about 208V (downtown). They work well.This looks like a single speed 3 phase pump motor. 354805S.
It won't work for this pump.
Brand Pentair EnclosureDesign TEFC FinishColor Almond FlangeType Square ForUseWith WhisperFlo® High Performance Pumps FrequencyRating 60 Hz HP 1 Item Motor NumberOfSpeed 1-Speed Phase 3-Phase VoltageRating 208/230/460 V
POOL360 - 1HP 3PH 230/460V ALMOND SQFL ODP MOTOR
1HP 3PH 230/460V ALMOND SQFL ODP MOTOR
208 is a three-phase voltage.
Unless you have 3 phase power or a drive, it won't work.
Three phase has three power wires.
Well, ya got me. Paid more attention to the picture than the specs. Looks the same. I meant this motor:
354823S - 1-1/2 HP Pump Motor Square Flange - 208-230 Volts - TEFC Almond - Pentair
This is Pentair 354823S 1.5 HP Pump Motor, Almond, Square Flange, 208-230 Volts, TEFC, 56Y Frame. This motor is for a WhisperFlo and SuperFlo pool pumps.Pentair replacement motors have been carefully engineered to meet the rugged demands of the pool and spa industry. Two sealed ball bearings...
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Too bad. There's 8 of the .75hp, 9 of the 1hp, 25 of the 1.5hp, 8 of the 3hp available here at just one supplier. Must be a California thing, though the last three aren't actually legal here and the box has that label on it (but they still sell them). Florida may be different and just use the DOE requirements.
There's nothing as good as new except new, and o_0 would be better off with a new VSP, but I have always been a fix before replace service guy if what the customer has works for them.
There's nothing as good as new except new, and o_0 would be better off with a new VSP, but I have always been a fix before replace service guy if what the customer has works for them.
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thank you everyone for the suggestions - just ordered a new IntelliFlo i2 and a new 20A 2 pole GFI square d breaker.
The SuperFlo VST would have been an easier swapout as the unions would have matched and now you will have to replumb.
Unfortunately, you likely will experience nuisance tripping with a SquareD GFCB. That's why Pentair has their own, a Seimans QPF2 with a Pentair label. Check Home Depot for the Siemans one.
Ok I’ll switch it for that one instead.
The pool company tech that came out to quote a repair said that the superflo would fit - but also advised that they don’t carry the cables necessary for automation so it wouldn’t have been able to communicate with our easy touch setup.
You can get the cable, but it is a bit pricy.
It should come with the pump, in my opinion.
www.inyopools.com
https://www.polytecpools.com/Pentair-SuperFlo-VS-WhisperFlo-VST-Communication-Cable_p_9177.html
It should come with the pump, in my opinion.
Pentair Superflo/Super Max Pump Digital Comm. Cable Kit - 353129Z - INYOPools.com
Superflo/Super Max Pump Digital Comm. Cable Kit
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https://www.polytecpools.com/Pentair-SuperFlo-VS-WhisperFlo-VST-Communication-Cable_p_9177.html