Intermatic Timer Dead

David0408

Well-known member
Oct 16, 2017
105
San Antonio, TX
What 3 breaker boxes?

Why is insurance going to pay?
So the breaker that went out was on one of four breaker panels that I have throughout my house. The technician was concerned that he saw some damage from arcing and overheating and that my insurance company would pay to have them all replaced. That is not going to happen. Once the $30 breaker was replaced everything works fine. Clearly, my insurance company would only pay in the event that there was some damage and not because an electrician wants to land a big job.
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
17,330
At this point, has the electrician said that everything is safe or are they saying that work needs to be done?
 

David0408

Well-known member
Oct 16, 2017
105
San Antonio, TX
No immediacy. They of course want to do the work, but, they never said that it was critical that it gets done now. Not to mention that I have HVAC guys come over twice a year and they’ve never said anything.
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
17,330
Who originally wired the timer?

The timer is missing the ground wire.

The green wire being used for the power connection is very troubling. No electrician would do that.

Is the new pump breaker a double pole gfci breaker?
 

JamesW

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Mar 2, 2011
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That's a single breaker. I don't think that it goes to the pool subpanel.

You should have a regular double pole breaker from the main panel to the pool subpanel and then a double pole gfci breaker to the main pump and the Polaris booster pump.
 

Rattus Suffocatus

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Jun 5, 2019
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Corona de Tucson, AZ
I would at least mark both ends of the green wire with black or red tape as much as you can if it is indeed carrying a hot line. Not code, but at least it indicates the issue to the next guy. The green is probably being used because whatever that run was before was probably a 110V run, and that was converted to the second hot, or was done by an idiot. No bueno if so.... If there isn't a separate ground going to the sub panel then the GFCI is probably ineffective. Does the "test" button work on the GFCI? A single pole GFCI in a pool sub panel is usually used for 110V lights in the pool.

And for a pump you should have a dual pole 220V breaker somewhere but it could be in the panel that supplies the sub panel. They are expensive (like near $100) and many of electricians leave them off the pumps... If you have one upstream you are pretty safe even with that mess but it should be fixed eventually.