Advice Needed: New Pool Plaster Cracking

obscurethings

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Jan 16, 2024
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Southern California
Hello, thank you for taking the time to read this. I wanted advice on our pool plaster situation.

When our pool was replastered in late April 2023, the company that did it forgot to put in our tile trim. So, 4 days after the new plaster was done, the pool was drained and workers were walking on it to do the tile. We live in southern California where the weather was mild but warmer than other areas so this may factor in to what happened next.

Anyway, my mom noticed cracks that have been steadily expanding in the shallow end a few months after the job was done. They span several feet and in some areas there are dark/black spots with some residue (calcium build up?) emerging from the cracks. The company has delayed coming out to address it, so we had a few pool companies come over to give us their opinion and a quote.

All the pool companies agreed it should be replastered completely. They said a patch would be discolored and the pool needed to be redone. One wasn't sure if the staining was from rebar surfacing (we hadn't drained the pool at this point yet), but all of them agreed it was very premature and almost unheard of to drain the pool after 4 days since the plaster wouldn't be fully cured.

Anyway, we just had the company that did the plaster job over to assess our pool after draining it. The owner is trying to blame these cracks on improper calcium levels. Over the phone before he even saw the job, he exclaimed it would cost him so much money to redo it. He is actually the one who referred us to our current pool service that balances the chemicals in our pool, and the only reason we've kept them is because they came through the company that did our plaster.

Fortunately, my mom had the water chemical levels tested right before we drained the pool. The calcium hardness levels were normal (254), but the PH was high (8.3) and the alkalinity was low (77), and the cyanuric acid was just slightly high (102), the copper was high (0.4), and the phosphates were high (452, but we were advised this was acceptable).

Could the calcium hardness (that was normal), cause the delamination and cracking? The owner of the plaster company knocked on the tiles and said it sounded hollow. He is trying to blame these problems on the calcium hardness and acid/the pool water levels, acting like he is doing us a favor to even consider doing a patch.

Does anyone have any advice or opinions on what is going on with this plaster? I feel like he is lying to save himself the cost since the other companies assessed the pool and felt it needed to be redone, but since they didn't see the cracks with the water drained I have a margin of doubt.
 

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Welcome to TFP.

Your pool company is full of you know what. The water chemistry did not cause the problems. The draining after 4 days may have contributed to it.

You are in CA that has strong consumer protection laws. @Dirk can tell you how he handled similar problems in CA. And @onBalance may have advice as our plaster expert.

Pool Water Balance is Not (Always) the Problem The Bottom Line - Maintaining slightly aggressive water (LSI or CSI of -0.1 to -0.5) is acceptable. It does not cause rapid plaster deterioration and discolorations problems on quality applied pool plaster. The plaster problems mentioned in the thread are prevented by following good workmanship standards. Right now, there are none.
 
First, I believe that you will have enough supporting information to demand a new re-plaster job. The water chemistry did not cause the cracking. But more info is needed to help you get this resolved.
Is the plaster a normal smooth white plaster job? Or a quartz or pebble finish?
When the pool was drained the first time after 4 days of being new, how long was the pool empty without water?
Who tested the pool water?
What was the TDS level or salt level of the pool water? Is this a Salt pool?
In regards to the "pool companies" that came out to inspect your pool, were they service and maintenance companies, or plastering companies? And how many companies came to inspect your pool?
How long has your pool been empty now?
 
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Do you have a warranty, in writing, from the plaster company? Or do they mention a warranty on any literature you received, or on their website? You won't need a warranty to get this corrected, just curious, as that would make the necessary steps a little less involved. Do you have a written contract with the plaster company?

Was the total cost of the replaster more or less than $12,500 (the CA small claims court limit)?

Does the plaster company have a CA Contractor's License number? It should be on anything they handed you (business card, contract, etc).
 
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