26' Intex - Planning, Install, Upgrades, and Landscaping Thread

jseyfert3

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Know what it *does* feel like ???? That you are saving a boat ton on labor costs VS hiring out all the projects. Make a mental tally anytime it seems slow. Let’s see........ I’ve spent $7k but not $22k. *happily goes back to whistling while chipping away clay*
Well that's totally true!

There is a compromise though, as in I could have rented a walk behind trenching machine and gotten this trench done in about 30 minutes to an hour, plus an hour to pick up and drop off the trencher, for $200. Still cheaper than hiring it out, but much less physical labor. If I have to trench again (such as for a gas line if we decide to add a heater at some point), I'll be renting a trencher! This is what I'm talking about:
 
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Newdude

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There is a compromise though, as in I could have rented a walk behind trenching machine and gotten this trench done in about 30 minutes to an hour, plus an hour to pick up and drop off the trencher, for $200
Preach. Feel free to buy/rent things as needed with all the savings. :)
 
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Newdude

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Ha. You’ve been filling us in during the journey. Nailguns and whatnot. And next time you already have them all.
 

jseyfert3

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Electrical inspector came out just now. I got a little worried when he tapped on the pool uprights and said "these are plastic then?" and I replied "no, powder coated metal". I thought he might say they need to be bonded, dispite NEC not requiring bonding on storable pools and our emails back in February (which I assume he wouldn't remember).

But, that was that, he made no other comments on it, checked the electrical wiring back to the main breaker panel, said all was good. I asked if someone else needed to come do the final pool inspection, and he said that no, he could do that and note that he had performed that. He checked all the gates were lockable, said everything was good and I could take down the permit from where it was displayed in our front window and file it.

Pool is back up to 80 today, and we've got some family coming for the weekend. Will be a good weekend!
 

krazykrames

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Problem I've discovered is that it works best with a circular water circulation from the pool pump, so the leaves get pushed around and have a chance at getting sucked in. But if I run my Intex auto cleaner, which is a pressure side cleaner, the water doesn't circulate in a circular pattern, and so the skimmer is much less effective. So as the cleaner is picking up leaves, it's making the skimmer less effective which means more leaves will end up on the bottom! Should have gotten a robot...
I have the same setup (skimmer and Intex cleaner). When I upgraded to a new filter and pump it moved enough volume to have 2 returns so I was able to run the Intex cleaner and an eyeball for circular water circulation at the same time. I don't know if the Intex filter and pump you have moves enough water to do that, mine didn't anyway.
The same goes for adding a second skimmer. There is a chance that having 2 skimmers and a small pump that there won't be enough flow to each one that they will pull leaves in.
 
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jseyfert3

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I think I'm going to get a manual vacuum for the pool. The Intex auto cleaner works okay, but can't get grit/small debris at the rounded edges of the pool (leaves at the edge eventually get "blasted" via the water jets that moves the cleaner and picked up when they settle in a different location). Plus after a storm there's a lot of stuff to pick up since it's under so many trees. People say get the roller vacuums, but are while fast, do they work okay at the edges of a round pool? Or should I just get one of those basic "triangle" vacuum heads? Or should I get two, the roller head for quickly cleaning the bottom after a storm, and a triangle or similar head for cleaning the edge of the pool?

Also any better or worse poles to get for a vacuum head/net or are they all about the same quality?

It took me 15 minutes to put the solar cover on myself the first time. I was trying from inside the pool the second time myself, and it wasn't much easier. While a reel is probably best, it also probably is at least a minor project to get it to work with an Intex pool. I've ran out of desire to add additional pool projects this year, so I'm pretty sure I'll just cut the cover into halves or perhaps even quarters, so it's easily managed. Otherwise without a reel it won't get used, which is a shame, as it's crazy how fast the pool cools off with the cover on cool nights. Cooling is drastically slowed with the cover, and hence the pool water stays much warmer.
 

Newdude

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People say get the roller vacuums, but are while fast, do they work okay at the edges of a round pool? Or should I just get one of those basic "triangle" vacuum heads?
I have heard just as many yays as nays with the roller vacs. I went with the triangle and it works for me, just slowly.
Also any better or worse poles to get for a vacuum head/net or are they all about the same quality?
There is a huge difference. The freebie that came with the pool (well, for $60k) was utter garbage. Weak and bendy and it snapped on year 2. You won't be nearly as extended as me, but still, get a HD one from the start and it will last forever. I got mine from the pool store and its the one their guys use. Its aluminum so still lightweight VS the HD fiberglass pole, but its twice as thick as the cheap one. I'm sorry I dont have a part # but search for HD.
I'm pretty sure I'll just cut the cover into halves or perhaps even quarters, so it's easily managed.
Cut strips and not Pizza slices. You'll have to get in for pizza slices and good luck getting out without messing up the middle.
Cooling is drastically slowed with the cover, and hence the pool water stays much warmer
Everyone agrees they work great and most agree they are a PITA. 5 years was enough for me. :)
 
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Newdude

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Also I was just reminded due to another thread, The triangle vac has brushes and more often than not it kills 2 birds with one stone. I almost never have to brush because of it. Squeaky clean all the time.
 

jseyfert3

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I have not brushed since I set the pool up in June. Don't even have a brush yet...

Cut strips and not Pizza slices. You'll have to get in for pizza slices and good luck getting out without messing up the middle.
Speaking from experience? I'm not visualizing how strips would work better than pizza slices. I am hoping that just cutting in half makes it easy enough that that's all I need to do. I wrestled it back on this morning so that hopefully I could trim/cut it this evening, man what a pain that was!
 

Newdude

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Speaking from experience? I'm not visualizing how strips would work better than pizza slices
You can tug them from either side to make the seams line up. Once the pizza point goes in it will float where it wants to and you can no longer reach it if need be. 2 pieces is probably prefect for you. I have big pool brain and naturally think that direction. Sorry. Lol.
Still need to brush the walls though
Great point. Again I have big pool brain and vac my walls too. Wasn’t even thinking it wouldn’t work for all. My bad # 2.
 

jseyfert3

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Another day, some more progress. Worked more on filling up the trench. Nearly all full, mostly just cleaning up the last of the loose dirt now, spreading it evenly, and planting some grass seed. Oh, and then trying to keep out dog out of it while it grows...
 

jseyfert3

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There is a huge difference. The freebie that came with the pool (well, for $60k) was utter garbage. Weak and bendy and it snapped on year 2. You won't be nearly as extended as me, but still, get a HD one from the start and it will last forever. I got mine from the pool store and its the one their guys use. Its aluminum so still lightweight VS the HD fiberglass pole, but its twice as thick as the cheap one. I'm sorry I dont have a part # but search for HD.
The "freebie" that came with my pool from Intex is too short to reach the center of my pool without getting in, so it's kinda worthless. At least yours was usable for 2 years. :p

Do you know what brand it is? I'm seeing an ad on amazon for a ProTuff 16' one. Looks like it's built heavier and instead of twist lock it has spring loaded pins and holes for extending and retracting it. But it's $150, or 3x more than the US Pools "regular" 16' pole. But if it lasts forever then I suppose it's worth it.

How extended is your pole normally? Are you normally on one side? I need at least a 16' pole myself, to reach the middle, and I'd still have to walk around the sides. I figure with a 16' pole I could vac maybe to half the pool without moving.

Also I need to get a leaf blower so I can blow leaves off the solar cover before removing the cover.
 

Newdude

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The "freebie" that came with my pool from Intex is too short to reach the center of my pool without getting in, so it's kinda worthless. At least yours was usable for 2 years. :p
:ROFLMAO:
Do you know what brand it is
It has no markings so I have no idea. When the old one snapped I just went to my store and told them to order me the one they used that I saw the startup guy with. It was $100 (double) and i was happy to pay it. It has a twist lock but its bigger and beefier, about 4 inches long.
Also I need to get a leaf blower so I can blow leaves off the solar cover before removing the cover.
The rechargeable ones have come a long way if you dont have extensive needs for it in the rest of the yard.
 

JoeSelf

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I have an older 40 volt Kolbalt blower and weed wacker (same battery). But I like them a lot. The new ones look different. Use them because of a rotator cuff tear. That's what happens when your blower & trimmer won't start and you get mad and just pull away.