That's not how CYA works, at all. It doesn't just go away in an afternoon.
Dichlor: short for Dichloroisocyanuric acid.
1st Time SLAM
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Dichlor is not a chemical. It is a mix of chemicals. This is what you are putting in your pool for every pound of Dichlor...
What tool or app did you use to calculate this? Where can I find it for future use?
- Jul 21, 2013
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Note that Dichlor is 1:1 chlorine and CYA.
Using it for SLAM level FC will cause you to have very high CYA which will require draining your pool to lower it.
Using it for SLAM level FC will cause you to have very high CYA which will require draining your pool to lower it.
- Jul 21, 2013
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I successfully completed a SLAM using dichlor as of 2 days ago no signs of algae!!!! It is possible
I wanted to give an update, I have successfully completed the SLAM process using only dichlor, and some small amounts of extra stabilizer and ph down.. my readings my have not been exact using strips, but in my case they were close enough to accomplish my mission! It is possible! Please stop dismissing users because they don't have the money for or access to the fancy suggested pool tester. While I appreciated everyone's help.. I was working very hard on limited means, I feel as tho tfp dismisses anyone that doesn't follow their strategies exactly.. on another reply of mine .. on the liquid chlorine not working for me in previous years you stated that it's not due to luck just knowing what you are adding, while this is very true, my luck on that issue stemmed from the luck that my local supplier actually stored the liquid chlorine as should.. meaning my only supplier in my very remote area was not storing it properly, and i could test a brand new gallon of liquid chlorine (still in the jug) and it would read 0 chlorine...so lets not just dismiss ppl due to their means. Call me freelancer, but the dichlor worked for me.. because I could always trust that it actually had chlorine in it!
Ok so, idk what that even is... All I know is I no longer have algae growth.. my pool is back to being clear and blue!!
Also, I know that ppl in this group can be very helpful or very dismissive depending on what we are working with, yes I had limited means, yes I was working with what I had on hand, for the most, and yes I don't like ppl making me feel less than because, well I'm on a budget and refuse to spend outrageous amounts of money on a pool that will soon be closed for the season.. as helpful as many have been in this group I have noticed a complete dismissal or negative feedback just because I don't have the fancy tools that are suggested or implied that I would need in order to be helped..
You did not perform the SLAM Process. You dumped a bunch of dichlor in your water blindly until you felt it was clear enough and called it "Mission Accomplished".
You have massively raised your CYA, but you don't know how much because you are relying on extremely cheap and unreliable test strips. You did not maintain your FC according to the CYA since you didn't know either, nor did you adjust your FC due to your rising CYA. No, test strips are not "close enough", just this week we've had several examples of completely impossible readings from users including one who initially talked up their test strips got their kit and found the strips were off on their chlorine by some 3x. They are junk.
Just to conclude: anybody with a private pool is allowed to manage that pool as they see fit. I truly wish them the best with that pool because we've seen the unpleasant consequences that can come from swimming in unsanitary water and wouldn't wish that upon anybody. That said however, our advice here will always be regarding the TFPC method of water management and anybody requesting help will be pointed in that direction and required to provide the data from a kit necessary to manage a TFPC pool. We will correct misinformation, we will counter anybody saying things like "you can SLAM with dichlor!", and we will always recommend storing test strips at the bottom of the trash can where they belong.
You have massively raised your CYA, but you don't know how much because you are relying on extremely cheap and unreliable test strips. You did not maintain your FC according to the CYA since you didn't know either, nor did you adjust your FC due to your rising CYA. No, test strips are not "close enough", just this week we've had several examples of completely impossible readings from users including one who initially talked up their test strips got their kit and found the strips were off on their chlorine by some 3x. They are junk.
It's what the name links to. It's one of the criteria necessary to declare a successful SLAM.
How can you know that? Without passing an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test you cannot know if there's still algae growing.
Dichlor and algaecide and draining overstabilized pools all cost money. I am not dismissing anything except the attitude of "I did it my way and it worked" when you cannot back any of the success up. If the algae isn't gone then the chlorine demand will still be high and with the crazy CYA level you have you'll be dumping more and more chlorine in trying to fix it. Wasted money that could have been spent on taking actual control of your pool chemistry and permanently reducing the cost. Short-term thinking is more expensive than any test kit...
No suggestion or implication. Our advice is based on reliable data and those refusing to give us that reliable data do not get the advice those who do provide us that data will get. The advice given is only as good as the data we have to work on, so we're not going to offer that advice based on known poor testing because the advice will also be poor. Despite your repeated accusations this is nothing but making sure we help a person properly and do not accidentally make their situation worse (and more costly). Everyone here is very happy to help anyone who is willing to help themselves and equip themselves with the ability to give us the data they and we need to successfully manage a safe and clean TroubleFree Pool.
Just to conclude: anybody with a private pool is allowed to manage that pool as they see fit. I truly wish them the best with that pool because we've seen the unpleasant consequences that can come from swimming in unsanitary water and wouldn't wish that upon anybody. That said however, our advice here will always be regarding the TFPC method of water management and anybody requesting help will be pointed in that direction and required to provide the data from a kit necessary to manage a TFPC pool. We will correct misinformation, we will counter anybody saying things like "you can SLAM with dichlor!", and we will always recommend storing test strips at the bottom of the trash can where they belong.
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I did not blindly (dump dichlor) blindly as you put it.. I kept my eye on every test that I did take( multiple times daily), with my so called unreliable test strips, altho they do not provide an exact precise amount, technically you can't tell me that I'm unhelpable .if my numbers were so far off I wouldn't have been able to rid the algae...it would continue to grow like it did in past years when i relied on liquid chlorine, in my case the supplier did not store it properly and upon open straight out the jug had a 0%chlorine.( Actually got a refund on 10 gal)so I refuse to do liquid chlorine this year..what I am saying is that no, test in strips are not 100,,% accurate but it is workable... You can't just dismiss ppl because they are working with test strips.. YOU CAN NOT REFUSE TO HELP SOME ONE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU A 100%ACCURATE READING.. we are here for advice, not dismissal because we aren't working with what you are! And other than my algae outbreak, that was technically my fault due to using my old hoses from last year in a pinch.. the dichlor has been a godsend in my case , never had a clearer pool, and after my as you call it (pretend) slam well I'm back up and running from a yellow mustard algae to a clear blue pool again. All I'm saying, is don't doubt ppl no matter their means!!
Also my chlorine demand is not high at all, just re read your comment.. and felt I had to let that be known..
Another thing, the whole reason I did a ( I did it) post is because when I asked about question on a different subject, I get no help.. no answers. No replies at all. I feel like I am completely dismissed since I told the world I use test strips, lol.. like it's an std or something ..
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Please assume positive intent on my part when you read this response. My intention is entirely positive.
In a word, we can, and we do, defer providing advice based on test strips or pool store test results, but not for reasons you may think.
Without accurate results, we can actually do more harm to your pool, equipment, your pocketbook and most importantly to the health of our pool owner members. A simple example would be pool store results that indicate an FC that is appropriate for your CYA, sufficient to kill bacteria. If your test kit measured CYA higher, and your FC was lower, it could be that it is actually unhealthy to swim.
The LAST thing any of us want to do is to harm pool, equipment, your $$, and your health and well being. That is the reason behind our insistence on a test kit. We know, with proper testing, we won't be doing harm. That cannot be said for using pool store testing and test strips.
Using a professional quality recommended test kit is the cornerstone of TFPC. It is our DNA.
What is TFPC?
We believe any pool owner can achieve and maintain safe, crystal clear pool water, by using the science-based, Trouble Free Pool Care (TFPC) methodology.
www.troublefreepool.com
Please understand, all the Mod/Experts/Guides on TFP are volunteers. We contribute our time to help others.
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And I do and have appreciation all your help,.you my friend have been very helpful with all your knowledge. but this late in the year, being told I did it wrong and will not achieve results by others..but yet I actually did.. my last few years I had to completely shut down my pool.. I am able to keep it up and running for what I have left in the year 3-4 weeks tops if that, next year I can have a have the proper testing equipment, but this late in the season,not happening ....yes I was very proud that I achieved something I never could in previous years with junk liquid chlorine..also, i feel like any new thread's i have made are completely ignored and I'm sure it's due to the fact that I can't properly test, and it is now known to the tfp community .. this community did help me with a ton of knowledge that I did not have before .. but I also felt very attacked and dismissed at the same timePlease assume positive intent on my part when you read this repones. My intention is entirely positive.
In a word, we can, and we do, defer providing advice based on test strips or pool store test results, but not for reasons you may think.
Without accurate results, we can actually do more harm to your pool, equipment, your pocketbook and most importantly to the health of our pool owner members. A simple example would be pool store results that indicate an FC that is appropriate for your CYA, sufficient to kill bacteria. If your test kit measured CYA higher, and your FC was lower, it could be that it is actually unhealthy to swim.
The LAST thing any of us want to do is to harm pool, equipment, your $$, and your health and well being. That is the reason behind our insistence on a test kit. We know, with proper testing, we won't be doing harm. That cannot be said for using pool store testing and test strips.
Using a professional quality recommended test kit is the cornerstone of TFPC. It is our DNA.
What is TFPC?
We believe any pool owner can achieve and maintain safe, crystal clear pool water, by using the science-based, Trouble Free Pool Care (TFPC) methodology.
Please understand, all the Mod/Experts/Guides on TFP are volunteers. We contribute our time to help others.
- Jun 24, 2021
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You have a clear pool, but you don't know if you still have algae. I think that was the point that folks were making. Without performing an Overnight Chlorine Loss Test, with a proper test kit, you can't declare the algae is gone. Algae can still be present, even if you can't see it.
I think you are taking it to the extreme. Your threads have not been "completely ignored." You had 17 responses to your first thread, and 38 posts in your second thread. That doesn't seem to me to be "completely ignored." Maybe, if you view it as people have your best interest at heart, and it's a bit of tough love, it might change your perspective.
I think if you polled our members, you would find an OVERWHELMING majority would say that the kit saved them more money, time, aggravation and heartache, than the price of the kit.
I have a thread to demonstrate it...https://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/i-knew-i-was-pool-stored-when.272640/
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Thank you for the polling, I am was talking about a new thread I made, but boy i sure got many comments on an old one.. not a one on a new question (thread) I made. Also, as to weather or not I know if IV got algae or not, I believe my filter cartridge would be the first to tell me.. am I wrong on this assumption? If I'm pulling clear cartridges as opposed to the slimy yellow cartridges.. I have had 3 clear cartridges no yellow sludge. Sorry if I'm being a bit rude I didn't mean to, just still dealing with Mr donoldson who has my feathers in a ruffle .. not intended for you at all.. I'm sry