Kind of a newbie here but I have been browsing everyones builds for months. Short story long, Bought a house in the Obx last summer as an investment, ended up selling my business and actually moved from DFW (southlake, tx) to the coast to get away from the city.
The builder basically just said "whatever you want and however you want it done we will do it" So basically I can spec what I want but want to make sure im doing it properly. When I built the pool in tx I didn't know anything about pools and trusted the contractor. It was fine but I had annoyances, mainly that the spa was pathetic and I couldn't use any of the special features when in "spa" mode or if I used the water fountains and bubblers, the pump wasn't strong enough to send water out of the returns (which meant no real heat) It was a simple single pump to run everything system, and had a single speed 1.5 Hp pump that was most likely under powered, and/or undersized plumbing.
Latham 16x35 Cancun Deluxe fiberglass pool in "night sky g3" (was originally going to do ocean blue but its even more backordered lol) with attached spa and a little sun lounge type thing. 3' concrete boarder and a 500 sqft concrete patio on shallow side of pool. Doing pavers or stamped is out of the budget at this point as I would prefer all the other things getting done. I can live with broom finish concrete for now. Drainage is also included in the decking as right now gutters drain to the existing yard where the pool will go.
Water features include
2 Hayward color logic bubblers on sun lounge
4 Hayward laminar color logic deck jets
2 fire pit planters with water fountains.
Equipment.
Main circulation pump Hayward Omni 900 1.8hp VS pump
Hayward 520 Sqft Cartridge filter.
Hayward 400k BTU NG heater.
Hayward aquarite 40k salt cell
Full Omnilogic Automation
Auto fill with overflow
waste pipe for drainage if needed.
3 colorlogic Leds in pool and 1 in spa. Not sure specific specs PB uses the same ones on every build he said.
Spa jet pump Hayward Omni 950 2.7HP VS pump (vs for control on how powerful you want the jets)
2.0 hp spa blower
separate dual MD with 3" pipe to pump and direct 3" pipe back to spa jet loop.
Water feature pump Hayward Omni 900 1.8hp VS pump
separate dual MD setup in pool with 3" pipe to pump and 3" pipe to valve setup to individually control water features. All the water features only call for 1.5" plumbing to them so I think that's safe. Any recommendations or changes here? Also is the 1.8 hp pump big enough or should I go with the 2.7? It's a ~300 dollar difference. The idea is the VS pump can ramp up or slow down depending on how many water features are running.
I think that's everything equipment wise. Plumbing layout is where im getting a little over my head and the builder is as well as he admitted they dont build very many pools with attached spas most people get separate above ground ones. IMO they look kinda cheap and honestly I dont want to take up any deck space to have one installed which is why I went with an attached model. Im going to attempt to draw a plumbing layout with what I had in mind to help visualize what im trying to describe.
I told him I wanted 2.5" plumbing on the circulation system. At least suction side and return side to the return Loop. As I recall the pools show up plumbed with returns already as we had to pick were we wanted the returns on the order sheet. Do I want 2.5" for the skimmers as well or is 2" ok on those? I also asked for a second skimmer so the pool has two skimmers and dual MD suction, as well as individual runs for each skimmer for independent control.
My end goal is to have a no sacrifice/compromise build. Where everything works and I dont have to worry about turning something off to use something else.
Attached some of the preliminary plans just to help visualize it. the "3d" rendering is very rudimentary and was just for permitting. IM hoping for a more detailed one after contract is signed.
Thanks all! hope that wasn't information overload.
The builder basically just said "whatever you want and however you want it done we will do it" So basically I can spec what I want but want to make sure im doing it properly. When I built the pool in tx I didn't know anything about pools and trusted the contractor. It was fine but I had annoyances, mainly that the spa was pathetic and I couldn't use any of the special features when in "spa" mode or if I used the water fountains and bubblers, the pump wasn't strong enough to send water out of the returns (which meant no real heat) It was a simple single pump to run everything system, and had a single speed 1.5 Hp pump that was most likely under powered, and/or undersized plumbing.
Latham 16x35 Cancun Deluxe fiberglass pool in "night sky g3" (was originally going to do ocean blue but its even more backordered lol) with attached spa and a little sun lounge type thing. 3' concrete boarder and a 500 sqft concrete patio on shallow side of pool. Doing pavers or stamped is out of the budget at this point as I would prefer all the other things getting done. I can live with broom finish concrete for now. Drainage is also included in the decking as right now gutters drain to the existing yard where the pool will go.
Water features include
2 Hayward color logic bubblers on sun lounge
4 Hayward laminar color logic deck jets
2 fire pit planters with water fountains.
Equipment.
Main circulation pump Hayward Omni 900 1.8hp VS pump
Hayward 520 Sqft Cartridge filter.
Hayward 400k BTU NG heater.
Hayward aquarite 40k salt cell
Full Omnilogic Automation
Auto fill with overflow
waste pipe for drainage if needed.
3 colorlogic Leds in pool and 1 in spa. Not sure specific specs PB uses the same ones on every build he said.
Spa jet pump Hayward Omni 950 2.7HP VS pump (vs for control on how powerful you want the jets)
2.0 hp spa blower
separate dual MD with 3" pipe to pump and direct 3" pipe back to spa jet loop.
Water feature pump Hayward Omni 900 1.8hp VS pump
separate dual MD setup in pool with 3" pipe to pump and 3" pipe to valve setup to individually control water features. All the water features only call for 1.5" plumbing to them so I think that's safe. Any recommendations or changes here? Also is the 1.8 hp pump big enough or should I go with the 2.7? It's a ~300 dollar difference. The idea is the VS pump can ramp up or slow down depending on how many water features are running.
I think that's everything equipment wise. Plumbing layout is where im getting a little over my head and the builder is as well as he admitted they dont build very many pools with attached spas most people get separate above ground ones. IMO they look kinda cheap and honestly I dont want to take up any deck space to have one installed which is why I went with an attached model. Im going to attempt to draw a plumbing layout with what I had in mind to help visualize what im trying to describe.
I told him I wanted 2.5" plumbing on the circulation system. At least suction side and return side to the return Loop. As I recall the pools show up plumbed with returns already as we had to pick were we wanted the returns on the order sheet. Do I want 2.5" for the skimmers as well or is 2" ok on those? I also asked for a second skimmer so the pool has two skimmers and dual MD suction, as well as individual runs for each skimmer for independent control.
My end goal is to have a no sacrifice/compromise build. Where everything works and I dont have to worry about turning something off to use something else.
Attached some of the preliminary plans just to help visualize it. the "3d" rendering is very rudimentary and was just for permitting. IM hoping for a more detailed one after contract is signed.
Thanks all! hope that wasn't information overload.
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