Do you know what the pipe does? I looks like it might be a fill line. If it is, you'll want to shut off the supply upstream before starting any repairs.
Return pvc pipe leak at the joint, how easy is it for zero plumbing exp guy?
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judging from the equipment and pipes, that seems to be the pipe sending water back to pool, as both water after filter and polaris pump discharging into it.
ferretbone
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Thats a much better picture than the first one. That is 1.5 inch pipe your trying to replumb.. Flex glue will buy you a little time or last a good bit. I have 50 50 results when I use it on the return side.
The thing with plumbing you can cut back as far as you want or not. Just remember from the bottom down there is no flexing. You should have some flex on the top of that coupling because the return line is so long it looked shorter in the first picture. If you cut out 6 inches now you have to replace those 6inches plus the socket length of both couplings. You need good flexablity for that because what your adding is longer than what you cut out. If you have no flex, then my way was easy, because it requires no flexing.
You can take the lid off the pump and pull the basket out then suff a rag in the throat of the pump to slow the water down. You will need to stuf one in the suction side too. sometimes putting it in backwash helps sometimes it doesnt. You may not have to much water pouring on you while you plumb if you do that. I do plumbing while water is pouring out on me all the time. Prime as much as you can even where water is and glue like you nornally would and you will be ok. Just hold your fitting you glue for about a minute for the glue to dry, it will try to spit of some for a few seconds. Even when water is pouring on you take your time, your already wet. I use a rubber mallet to tap things in they are a most for me on many jobs I do.
Lot of edits, i thought that suction jandy went somewhere else use it to turn off the suction side.
The thing with plumbing you can cut back as far as you want or not. Just remember from the bottom down there is no flexing. You should have some flex on the top of that coupling because the return line is so long it looked shorter in the first picture. If you cut out 6 inches now you have to replace those 6inches plus the socket length of both couplings. You need good flexablity for that because what your adding is longer than what you cut out. If you have no flex, then my way was easy, because it requires no flexing.
You can take the lid off the pump and pull the basket out then suff a rag in the throat of the pump to slow the water down. You will need to stuf one in the suction side too. sometimes putting it in backwash helps sometimes it doesnt. You may not have to much water pouring on you while you plumb if you do that. I do plumbing while water is pouring out on me all the time. Prime as much as you can even where water is and glue like you nornally would and you will be ok. Just hold your fitting you glue for about a minute for the glue to dry, it will try to spit of some for a few seconds. Even when water is pouring on you take your time, your already wet. I use a rubber mallet to tap things in they are a most for me on many jobs I do.
Lot of edits, i thought that suction jandy went somewhere else use it to turn off the suction side.
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ferretbone
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Oh I just saw the part about your valve. open it beofre you glue it. I would have used a differnt valve but no worries. Maybe lube inside it real good. Don't use pool lube, it will get tough on you real quick. I use pentairs rainbow chlorinater lube.
Cut the return line below the coupling, while shut the jandy valve (180 degree, supposedly shut off both inlets), plugged both skimmers and three return outlets, but water still gushing out from that pipe above from concrete and does not seem to stop (already 15mins). Can the oatey primer+cement be used in this case? Please help.
Put a shop vac at that opening after cut, water backfills up quickly still.
Put a shop vac at that opening after cut, water backfills up quickly still.
Which direction is it gushing from ? Hopefully the pad and it’s just filter water. That could take a while to drain.
Note that those Jandy valves are backwards from most 1/4 turn shutoff ball valves. Usually to stop the water flow you turn the handle perpendicular to the water flow, but Jandy does it opposite. Those the handle kinda points to the part of the pipe you want to block off. Just thought I’d share that in case it wasn’t obvious.
Gushing upwards from that return pipe. The shop vac has been running for an hour, not seeing the water stopping.
There is one outlet port for the polaris as well, do I need to block that? From my picture you can see that the polaris pump is in the way as well. I could not find anything that can block the polaris port.
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i loosen the screw on that valve and lifted the handle to turn it away from the inlet pipe leading into the filter pump. The pool guy told me that is to shut off both skimmers
It appears so
so in theory it will leak until it empties to that spot. In the pool you shouldn’t need much to hold in place because the pool water will push on anything you block there. Try making a mushroom out of seran wrap. Make the stem a little larger than the pipe so it fits snug and the cap of the mushroom much larger than the pipe so there is no way it can be pushed in. It may take a few tries to have enough seran wrap in one piece to make it work. Or better yet, make a pool noddle that tapers down on the pipe side but the fatter side simply can’t be pushed into the pipe.
Was it because I did not plug the ports right? I used those rubber plugs.
The water is not stopping... From the pix, you can see the water came back up from the return pipe, also from the upper part I have small streams of water from pump side, not as much as the return line.
What do I do from here?
The water is not stopping... From the pix, you can see the water came back up from the return pipe, also from the upper part I have small streams of water from pump side, not as much as the return line.
What do I do from here?
That would be fine if you got them all. But if the vac return is still open and bridged to/through the leaking pipe, it needs a plug too. A rubber stopper would be awsome if you have any extras. Or most hardware stores / home centers carry them if any are close.
My polaris port looks like this. What do I use to block that? Or is it polaris? I assumed it was because the rest three I can feel water pushing out when my filter pump is on, not this one.
Probably the filter overcoming the vacuum and slowly draining. If you have an air relief valve you can open it to speed the process. Once you let air into the filter it will beer bong itself empty in 4 seconds
Ooof. MacGuyver it with seran wrap thats bigger on the pool side. Smush enough in there to plug it but make sure there is a big enough mushroom cap that you can pull it out / it doesn’t get sucked in the pipe
What is seran wrap? Bear with my ignorance. I do have extra rubber plugs but not in that shape, have pool noodles too.
I used some bubble wrap to plug that hole as much as I can.. Not seeing slow down of water coming out from the return pipe yet.
Now looking at the setup, I do not think that polaris opening is connected to the pipe I cut off. Looks like that port is connected to the pipe up from concrete in front of the polaris pump. The inlet for the polaris is branched out from the pipe coming out of the filter, the other branch goes to the cut off portion return line back to the pool. If that hole is the problem, the water should coming out from the horizontal pipe opening, instead of the vertical return pipe upwards.
Now my question, where did all these water come from now that I plugged off all return line ports, suction ports and even shut off the Jandy valve for the inlets connected to both skimmers.
Now looking at the setup, I do not think that polaris opening is connected to the pipe I cut off. Looks like that port is connected to the pipe up from concrete in front of the polaris pump. The inlet for the polaris is branched out from the pipe coming out of the filter, the other branch goes to the cut off portion return line back to the pool. If that hole is the problem, the water should coming out from the horizontal pipe opening, instead of the vertical return pipe upwards.
Now my question, where did all these water come from now that I plugged off all return line ports, suction ports and even shut off the Jandy valve for the inlets connected to both skimmers.
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Cling wrap, renyolds wrap…. The clear plastic stuff you cover leftovers in the fridge with.
Another thought. The waterproof gorilla tape would definitely work but the regular gorilla tape may work long enough to get the job done
If that is the return to the pool, then one of the return ports in the pool is not plugged. Check the skimmers and main drain.
Both my skimmers are plugged. I can't to find any valve/control for the main drain. I was told that the main drain was connected to the deeper end skimmer (not sure if the pool guys opened the main drain while the old water was drained out entirely). I only see four other holes on the pool wall, three of which I tested with my finger while filter pump was on, and they had pressure. I plugged them all, but not sure how tight I should plug, I feel they are plugged pretty well.
I also turned that Jandy valve handle away from the filter pump, which supposedly shut off both inlets from two skimmers.