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Also since I have a 8000 gallon pool (8333 to be exact) - most of the generators here Compare and Review Saltwater Chlorine Generator Prices and Features | DSP are well over that. I am considering switching jobs where I won't be home as much and need to ramp up my decision process. I goggled and youtubed pros/cons and it appears no pump changes (maybe additional wear) a potential scaling and high PH that you have to watch out for.

I have 2 15A 120V breakers to the pool pump and Polaris pump, The pumps themselves are 240 (as they are wired line to line vs line to common). I don't want a unit that is inline with the controls facing up for the elements to ruin over time and appears my only other choice is to wall mount.

I am also ok with paying extra for better unit features but don't need a "Star Wars" unit either.

Finally DIY or do turn key for a Pro. Money is not an issue really. Posting here and please let me know if I should post on another forum with new thread

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Thanks- that is an odd way of specing a system as standard. :) I have a couple questions
- Alot of folks praising SWGs have fiberglass- I have gunite- Anyone have gunite? It appears there may be a calcium scaling issue with SWGs - Any other issues? I have not checked my pool for phosphates but heard to keep those way down as well
- is there a need for K-1766 DROP TEST CHLORIDE if the cell has a meter
 
You do want the K1766 salt test, as the meters on the SWG's can be off on the salinity level. Not to mention all that chlorine you used to kill all that algae probably kicked up your salt level substantially already. before I got my SWG this spring, my pool already had 600ppm of salt from one season, and that was with little chlorine usage. You definitely want to test your salt BEFORE adding any. You'd be surprised how much may already be in there.

I think plenty of people with gunite pools have SWG's. From what I've read, it can harm limestone coping which is common in Florida, but I'll let the experts chime in on that.

As for me, I love the ease of use of my SWG, even if it takes a few years to pay for itself, Just not having to haul jugs of bleach is worth any extra $ to me.
 
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You do want the K1766 salt test, as the meters on the SWG's can be off on the salinity level. Not to mention all that chlorine you used to kill all that algae probably kicked up your salt level substantially already. before I got my SWG this spring, my pool already had 600ppm of salt from one season, and that was with little chlorine usage. You definitely want to test your salt BEFORE adding any. You'd be surprised how much may already be in there.

I think plenty of people with gunite pools have SWG's. From what I've read, it can harm limestone coping which is common in Florida, but I'll let the experts chime in on that.

As for me, I love the ease of use of my SWG, even if it takes a few years to pay for itself, Just not having to haul jugs of bleach is worth any extra $ to me.
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Understood that is why I am looking plus with a new job potentially, can't baby sit the pool. Any folks from Florida with gunite? I looked up Limestone coping- mine is concrete so no issue there but I do have tile on upper part of pool wall then the gunite
 
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Also since I have a 8000 gallon pool (8333 to be exact) - most of the generators here Compare and Review Saltwater Chlorine Generator Prices and Features | DSP are well over that. I am considering switching jobs where I won't be home as much and need to ramp up my decision process. I goggled and youtubed pros/cons and it appears no pump changes (maybe additional wear) a potential scaling and high PH that you have to watch out for.

I have 2 15A 120V breakers to the pool pump and Polaris pump, The pumps themselves are 240 (as they are wired line to line vs line to common). I don't want a unit that is inline with the controls facing up for the elements to ruin over time and appears my only other choice is to wall mount.

I am also ok with paying extra for better unit features but don't need a "Star Wars" unit either.

Finally DIY or do turn key for a Pro. Money is not an issue really. Posting here and please let me know if I should post on another forum with new thread

Thanks
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You want one rated for at least 2x’s your pool volume as the ratings are based on running it @100% 24/7 which isn’t really optimal for most people & the cells produce only a finite amount of chlorine in their life. The larger the cell, the less you have to run it, the longer it lives. So in your case a 15k gal cell is not quite enough but a 20k gal cell would be great. You can go bigger if your pocket book allows.
 
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You want one rated for at least 2x’s your pool volume as the ratings are based on running it @100% 24/7 which isn’t really optimal for most people & the cells produce only a finite amount of chlorine in their life. The larger the cell, the less you have to run it, the longer it lives. So in your case a 15k gal cell is not quite enough but a 20k gal cell would be great. You can go bigger if your pocket book allows.
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Pocket book allows. I like the wall mount vs a unit that is directly exposing circuitry to the elements - thoughts? Depending on what happens with job I may wait till spring and see what winter has in store for me in regards to bleach adds.

Right now it's 120oz 7.5% a day FC ranging 11-6ppm and CYA 50
 
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Also here is my piping- looks like I may have to go before the filter?View attachment 362584
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You want the swg to be the last in line before the water returns to the pool.
There are units with vertical mounting options. It doesn’t look like u have much space after the filter so u will need to reconfigure a little.
 
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Mdragger88 said:
You want the swg to be the last in line before the water returns to the pool.
There are units with vertical mounting options. It doesn’t look like u have much space after the filter so u will need to reconfigure a little.Thnaks looks like I would get a pro in to move the filter
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Thanks- looks like I would need to just redo the whole pump discharge then and put the filter on the back leg and the SWG on the line where the polaris is currently plugged into. UGH!

On the bright side- my FC only dropped 2.5ppm all day (1/2 sun) but may have been a bogus AM test- heading back out of town and will check Thursday again
 
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Hi Guys- I am deciding on going SWG- given my set up I am thinking I can do this myself with a vertical installation of the cell and rejiggling the filter back to accommodate the extra length. Circupool sells a vertical kit I will have to adapt to a 1 1/2" pipe I have. I really don't like all the bends as this will reduce pressure of flow to polaris and the jets. Anyone have experience with a vertical installation? My only other alterative is to install it before the filter which would be super easy and logically can't really see why I can't do this. Decided to go with a mambo RJ-60+

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Yikes, you really don't have much room after that filter. That's where it needs to go for sure though. Others here have the vertical install, I just don't remember who. But it's fairly popular. Looking at your current set-up, I wonder if it wouldn't be better for you in the long run to reposition your filter by turning it about 90 degrees clockwise? The input would be facing the pump better, then you would have plenty of room on the left to route the output from the filter to the left before coming back to the 3-way in the ground? Just a thought.
 
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Yikes, you really don't have much room after that filter. That's where it needs to go for sure though. Others here have the vertical install, I just don't remember who. But it's fairly popular. Looking at your current set-up, I wonder if it wouldn't be better for you in the long run to reposition your filter by turning it about 90 degrees clockwise? The input would be facing the pump better, then you would have plenty of room on the left to route the output from the filter to the left before coming back to the 3-way in the ground? Just a thought.
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I considered that and will again- the issue is did they leave me enough free pipe to redo it. and can I get the filter connections somewhere if needed. More research. Thanks for the advice- I have bids out of install only and turn key and see what they come back with. I would really rather do it myself- plan wait maybe another month for the heat to break then go for it
 
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Question (I am "engineering" the retrofit)- On the current Filter, there are what looks like black adapters to connect to the filter One is 2" on inlet and 1 is 1.5" on outlet.

Should I get these ordered or are they reusable. I can't tell if the connecting nuts are part of the glued part

Thanks
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That's a nifty little drawing you have created. :goodjob:

Unions at the critical places is probably the only thing you might want to order. Everything else should be at your local hardware store. The SWG should come with its own unions, but you would need a couple for the filter so you can disconnect easy in the future. If you re-route from the pump outlet, perhaps a new slip union for that outlet as well.
 
Texas Splash said:
That's a nifty little drawing you have created. :goodjob:

Unions at the critical places is probably the only thing you might want to order. Everything else should be at your local hardware store. The SWG should come with its own unions, but you would need a couple for the filter so you can disconnect easy in the future. If you re-route from the pump outlet, perhaps a new slip union for that outlet as well.
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Thanks!- Is there a good site to look these parts up (slip joints for Pentair filter)- I goggled and nothing really stood out. Also another question- is it better to mount the control unit indoors to protect the electronics from the heat ?
 
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While you can often times find unions and fittings on pool sites online, Amazon often times has them as well. If you know the dimensions you need they have many of them. If in doubt, Inyopools has a good selection and they can assist on the phone. For the SWG control unit module, they are designed to be outside, however if you have the ability to give it some protection I think that's a great idea. I put mine under a small lean-to which protects it from direct sunlight and rain. Others have even gotten creative here and made a tint enclosure for it.
 

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