ScreenLogic Users Assemble!

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KDpoolguy

KDpoolguy

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Palm Desert, CA
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Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
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Hayward Aqua Rite (T-9)
Hi there,
I’m new to automation with my EasyTouch. My neighbor, who happens to be a pool company owner in Oregon, has a lightly used Screenlogic2 kit that was removed after a customer didn’t want to pay for it. He offered it to me for $250, which is a good deal. I’m finding my in-home EasyTouch controller is sufficient and still a monster leap from the headache I was accustomed to (see below) and am wondering how happy the Screenlogic2 users on TFP are relative to the cost of it?

$250 is better than $400, but I ultimately am unsure of how much I’ll use it. How do you utilize the mobile abilities? For away control to turn on the spa/heater before you get home? Remote monitoring of pool functioning?

What I won’t miss: Decades of manually turning valves and my unenthusiastic headache as my body aches to deciding to turn on the spa for relief—turning valves, pump on, heat on, jets on...then...turning valves, pump off, heat off, jets off.
 
I don’t have it, I make fun of those that cheerlead for it (@Jimrahbe) and I’m happy with my RF EasyTouch 8 remote .... BUT ..... at $250 you’d have to be crazy to pass on that deal....

Jim will be by shortly to sing the praises of ScreamLogic :kim:
 
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KD,

Not having ScreenLogic is like taking a math test with just your fingers, when you could have used a calculator... :)

Seriously, I think Pentair should have been giving it away as it would have been offset by the increased ET sales.. It makes using and programing the ET about 10 x easier and much more fun..

And no matter what that old curmudgeon Matt says, ScreenLogic is better than any Pentair remote... :whip:

In truth it just a matter of what works for you.. I love mine. I have it on my phone and on my PC... I rarely use the phone app.. I use my PC about 99% of the time.

Here are a couple of screenshots...

Programing is simple because everything ties together.. Notice the pic below shows how the Circuit, the Circuit Name and the Circuit Function all tie together..

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Here is a look at schedules..

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Here is the main page...

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The pump control page..

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And the IC40 page...

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If I gave you ScreenLogic for free, and you used it for a month, I'd have to kill your to get it back.. :)

Oh!! And once you get it installed, you can thank Matt... :goodjob:

Jim R.
 
? I just can’t get enough of you two. That’s a great pitch. Okay, Okay, it’s silly to pass on it, but honestly Jim your description of the computer benefits sent me over the decision line. My thoughts where purely the phone-app benefits and then also in reality it’s a nightmare punching away at the ET8 board or remote. I’m looking to push the uses of this panel and I now see the Screenlogic is the way to get there. Getting more of a programming ability on a full computer screen is much preferred to the tiny 4 line backlit LCD panel.
I texted my neighbor and he said he’d get it down to me (it’s in Oregon) and even offered to install it. That’s really cool. Probably won’t have it for a couple weeks but I’ll let ya know how it goes.
I use an Apple Mac now and found this so they appear to have a Mac-based program.
 
Hey KD,

Not sure what your plans are for the old indoor controller but I would keep it... indoor and wireless controllers will store a copy of the programming you create using it, the screenlogic mobile/pc apps, or the outdoor controller. (screenlogic does not do this)

If at some point your outdoor controller dies, the replacement will copy the program from the indoor unit... so in addition to being a functioning controller, the indoor unit is a backup device of sorts. You can certainly manually (and pretty easily) reprogram a replacement controller with screenlogic... but since screenlogic doesn't store the program, the replacement cannot automatically copy the program from it - like it would from an indoor unit.
 
KD,

Ask Tom how he found that out... :p

It is even worse than that... ScreenLogic saves "something", because if you install a new blank main board and then connect to ScreenLogic it "appears" that the programming is all there.. but it is not. The displays all look ok, but none of them work. In my case, I had taken screenshots of all the programming pages so the entire reprogramming process was pretty quick.

Tom's idea to have an old remote store a backup copy of the programming sounds like a good idea to me..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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HA Jim, yes indeed! but you forgot to mention what happens when you first install a replacement board that should have been cleared :rolleyes: but still had some "test programming" on it :eek:
 

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Brian,

I really appreciate you worrying about my unnamed circuits, but you can put your mind at rest.. They are all legitimate now..

Unfortunately, the screenshots in the TFP files have yet to catch up... :(

I now even have a spillway circuit, which is looking for a good home as I don't have a gunite spa.. :)

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Jimrahbe said:
In my case, I had taken screenshots of all the programming pages so the entire reprogramming process was pretty quick.

and reentering data by hand is soooo much fun and super-futuristic ....
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There Jim, I fixed it for you....:epds:I prefer enter data using punch-cards and 8-bit binary code, but that’s just me.....

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Matt,

You are just trying to remind me of the good old days... I have an Osborne computer and remember sending it in for a modification to double the floppy disk space.. From 25K to 50K.. Man, all on one disk!!! :laughblue:

Jim R.
 
I remember programming my first computer-an IBM 8088 and it had an ancillary 8” floppy. I feel many of these companies software could be more streamlined, but pool tech isn’t a $500 billion dollar industry.

I have the Intelliflo VS and a Hayward Tristar VS at the old home. Comparing the the Status screens the wattage use for each RPM speed is quite different and I wonder why?
Right now if I run the Pentair and Hayward pumps at identical speeds (2000 rpm), the wattage use is quite different:
Pentair Intelliflo: 2000 rpm, 540 watts
Hayward Tristar: 2000rpm, 275 watts
 
kd,

I suspect we are not comparing apples to apples... How the pumps measure watts, the impeller size, the amount of water moved, the amount of head could all be different.

I am most certainly not a pump guy, but would assume that it takes the same amount of energy to move the same amount of water to the same height.

Maybe @mas985 would like to chime in..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
KDpoolguy said:
I have the Intelliflo VS and a Hayward Tristar VS at the old home. Comparing the the Status screens the wattage use for each RPM speed is quite different and I wonder why?
Right now if I run the Pentair and Hayward pumps at identical speeds (2000 rpm), the wattage use is quite different:
Pentair Intelliflo: 2000 rpm, 540 watts
Hayward Tristar: 2000rpm, 275 watts
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They have completely different wet end designs. It is like comparing a 1.5 HP pump to a 3 HP pump.

When comparing VS pumps, you need to compare them at the same flow rate on the same plumbing (i.e. same operating point), not the same RPM. Otherwise, it is not a fair comparison. RPM is related to performance but does not dictate it.
 

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