Hello everyone!
I find myself here after buying a "new to us" home with a pool. I know...a novelty here I am sure! lol
If I get any terms wrong, please feel free to correct. I have thick skin.
I would appreciate some advice and here is some info I have compiled on what I think "can" be done. Pictures included.
The pool needed a liner severely, so I have been maintaining it as frugal as possible getting used to performing bare minimum maintenance to keep algae at bay until the pool is drained and the new liner installed. We are not currently swimming in it. It looked like lake water a short time ago, so I am getting the hang of balancing things.
Pool is 16x32, 3ft to 8ft deep @21120 gallons. Pretty standard old school pool I imagine.
1 HP single speed no name pump
(2 jets) 1 jet on each corner by the stairs.
Jet 1 @50FT from pump, Jet 2 @65FT from pump.
1 high pressure outlet by the pool ladder @45FT from pump currently attached to 3/4HP booster.
1 skimmer on the ladder side corner @34FT from pump.
1 main drain @50 from pump(adding in the 8FT depth, then 8FT over).
Once liner is installed, I have great aspirations of converting to salt water myself and replacing everything on the pad and cleaning up around the pad. As a firefighter, I am super efficient at tearing things up and somewhat dangerous putting it all back together. Depending on who you ask.
I have potentially selected the following components at $3060-$3335 + tax and shipping:
Pump: Circupool Smartflo 1.5 THP variable speed pump - *It is only $100 more for a 2 THP and "may" be useful for my goal*(I know, rookie assumption, but hear me out)
Chlorinator: Circupool CORE35 or CORE55 - 35000 or 55000 gallon max
Prefilter: Circupool TJ-16
Cartridge filter: Circupool CJ2750 - 270sqft - 34000 gallons max - 54000 combined with prefilter.
Here are the issues:
1. 1.5" plumbing - New equipment is set up for 2". Bet you never expected that and I have dumbfounded you all!
2. Jet returns not ran separately and are split I presume around the closest jet and not easily accessible without tearing up concrete that is 3x the cost it used to be.
3. The current pump does not hold a prime when turned off and I am thinking its because there does not appear to be a check valve?
4. Pressure cleaning port and booster pump not needed. I will use suction from skimmer with vac and brush until I financially recover and research a sexy bot.
5. Wall timer no longer needed. New pump has timer and will run 24/7.
Here are what I think are good solutions:
s1. Install new 2" plumbing above ground(pad).
s2. Dig as far as I can to concrete to see if returns happen to split before and make a separate run to pump. (doubt it, but digging is free)
s3. Install check valve before pump.
s4. Convert cleaning port to standard return Jet.
s5. Remove pins from old timer and leave manual turn off in place just in case and wire chlorinator to where booster is currently wired.
Questions:
A. Is 2" plumbing above ground with 1.5" in ground have any negatives to consider vs using reducers at all equipment inlets and outlets?
B. Any other place I need a check valve with the new equipment other than before pump?
C. I already have a waste pipe plumbed and plan to keep it, so just need a diverter valve before filter right?
D. Is conversion of pressure port to return jet as easy as changing the wall outlet and modifying the hose by booster to PVC?
E. What is a good choice for the valve on the suction side? Would it not be better to have a 3 port valve where the T socket is now vs each supply line having an individual shut off before the T as pictured? Is there a more efficient way/valve to mitigate T flow inefficiency?
F. Same question on return side. If I find and run a separate line for each Jet and include the converted cleaning port to jet, is there a more efficient 4 port valve?
G. Would it be better if I did not worry about the current 2 jets being split, roll with it and just stick with converting cleaning port so have 2 suction lines and 2 return lines with one of them being split to prevent return pressure issues?
H. In either return line scenario, going from a 1HP single speed to 1.5THP variable pump is probably not an issue, but should I spring another $100 for a 2THP variable and tune the RPMs or is it just a waste?
Thank you so much in advance if you made it this far and any assistance or other suggestions you can provide.
I find myself here after buying a "new to us" home with a pool. I know...a novelty here I am sure! lol
If I get any terms wrong, please feel free to correct. I have thick skin.
I would appreciate some advice and here is some info I have compiled on what I think "can" be done. Pictures included.
The pool needed a liner severely, so I have been maintaining it as frugal as possible getting used to performing bare minimum maintenance to keep algae at bay until the pool is drained and the new liner installed. We are not currently swimming in it. It looked like lake water a short time ago, so I am getting the hang of balancing things.
Pool is 16x32, 3ft to 8ft deep @21120 gallons. Pretty standard old school pool I imagine.
1 HP single speed no name pump
(2 jets) 1 jet on each corner by the stairs.
Jet 1 @50FT from pump, Jet 2 @65FT from pump.
1 high pressure outlet by the pool ladder @45FT from pump currently attached to 3/4HP booster.
1 skimmer on the ladder side corner @34FT from pump.
1 main drain @50 from pump(adding in the 8FT depth, then 8FT over).
Once liner is installed, I have great aspirations of converting to salt water myself and replacing everything on the pad and cleaning up around the pad. As a firefighter, I am super efficient at tearing things up and somewhat dangerous putting it all back together. Depending on who you ask.
I have potentially selected the following components at $3060-$3335 + tax and shipping:
Pump: Circupool Smartflo 1.5 THP variable speed pump - *It is only $100 more for a 2 THP and "may" be useful for my goal*(I know, rookie assumption, but hear me out)
Chlorinator: Circupool CORE35 or CORE55 - 35000 or 55000 gallon max
Prefilter: Circupool TJ-16
Cartridge filter: Circupool CJ2750 - 270sqft - 34000 gallons max - 54000 combined with prefilter.
Here are the issues:
1. 1.5" plumbing - New equipment is set up for 2". Bet you never expected that and I have dumbfounded you all!
2. Jet returns not ran separately and are split I presume around the closest jet and not easily accessible without tearing up concrete that is 3x the cost it used to be.
3. The current pump does not hold a prime when turned off and I am thinking its because there does not appear to be a check valve?
4. Pressure cleaning port and booster pump not needed. I will use suction from skimmer with vac and brush until I financially recover and research a sexy bot.
5. Wall timer no longer needed. New pump has timer and will run 24/7.
Here are what I think are good solutions:
s1. Install new 2" plumbing above ground(pad).
s2. Dig as far as I can to concrete to see if returns happen to split before and make a separate run to pump. (doubt it, but digging is free)
s3. Install check valve before pump.
s4. Convert cleaning port to standard return Jet.
s5. Remove pins from old timer and leave manual turn off in place just in case and wire chlorinator to where booster is currently wired.
Questions:
A. Is 2" plumbing above ground with 1.5" in ground have any negatives to consider vs using reducers at all equipment inlets and outlets?
B. Any other place I need a check valve with the new equipment other than before pump?
C. I already have a waste pipe plumbed and plan to keep it, so just need a diverter valve before filter right?
D. Is conversion of pressure port to return jet as easy as changing the wall outlet and modifying the hose by booster to PVC?
E. What is a good choice for the valve on the suction side? Would it not be better to have a 3 port valve where the T socket is now vs each supply line having an individual shut off before the T as pictured? Is there a more efficient way/valve to mitigate T flow inefficiency?
F. Same question on return side. If I find and run a separate line for each Jet and include the converted cleaning port to jet, is there a more efficient 4 port valve?
G. Would it be better if I did not worry about the current 2 jets being split, roll with it and just stick with converting cleaning port so have 2 suction lines and 2 return lines with one of them being split to prevent return pressure issues?
H. In either return line scenario, going from a 1HP single speed to 1.5THP variable pump is probably not an issue, but should I spring another $100 for a 2THP variable and tune the RPMs or is it just a waste?
Thank you so much in advance if you made it this far and any assistance or other suggestions you can provide.
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