- Aug 17, 2009
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For those that have these cleaners which do you like best. Dust and other small stuff is the main mess along with some light leaf work.
poolneophyte said:If you are considering a suction side cleaner, the manufacturer told me that the Tracker model pool cleaners that they used to manufacture for Jacuzzi (out of business) are identical to the Poolvergnuegen cleaners. Inyo Pools is still selling brand new Tracker models for significantly less than the identical Poolvergnuegen models. There will be no warranty but the parts are still available. If I were to buy a suction side model, I personally would consider buying one of the Tracker models. You may want to call Poolvergnuegen and discuss the Tracker models with them.
Sorry for hijacking your thread but I felt that this was pertinent to your question.
poolneophyte said:Chem Geek,
I'm also interested in buying an automatic cleaner and been researching both suction side and pressure side cleaners made by Poolvergnuegen (aka The Pool Cleaner). My pool has a dedicated pressure port controlled by a 3 port valve to use for an automatic cleaner. I had a lengthy conversation with the manufacturer who stated that the pressure side model is not nearly as good for picking up fine particles as the suction side model is. How well does your pressure side cleaner work for picking up small debris? Does it pick up sand or does this just pass through the bag? I don't have a tremendous amount of sand but I would like to know that it can pick up what may be present.
Sorry I didn't answer this earlier. I missed this post. Anyway, I don't get too much fine debris in the pool. It's mostly cedar needles (well, I should say it used to be cedar needles since we cut down that tree since it was just too much of a hassle cleaning off the cover so frequently). There are also some flower petals, but there is also some dirt that gets blown in so that's probably the smallest particles we get in the pool. The Pool Cleaner seems to do fine even with dirt, but quite honestly it's not a really big test. I'd trust what the manufacturer says -- if the suction model is better for fine debris, then I'm sure it is. Most certainly it doesn't just pass through the bag as the bag is fairly fine, but again we're talking about dirt and not fine sand.poolneophyte said:Chem Geek,
I'm also interested in buying an automatic cleaner and been researching both suction side and pressure side cleaners made by Poolvergnuegen (aka The Pool Cleaner). My pool has a dedicated pressure port controlled by a 3 port valve to use for an automatic cleaner. I had a lengthy conversation with the manufacturer who stated that the pressure side model is not nearly as good for picking up fine particles as the suction side model is. How well does your pressure side cleaner work for picking up small debris? Does it pick up sand or does this just pass through the bag? I don't have a tremendous amount of sand but I would like to know that it can pick up what may be present.
poolneophyte said:Chem Geek,
I'm also interested in buying an automatic cleaner and been researching both suction side and pressure side cleaners made by Poolvergnuegen (aka The Pool Cleaner). My pool has a dedicated pressure port controlled by a 3 port valve to use for an automatic cleaner. I had a lengthy conversation with the manufacturer who stated that the pressure side model is not nearly as good for picking up fine particles as the suction side model is. How well does your pressure side cleaner work for picking up small debris? Does it pick up sand or does this just pass through the bag? I don't have a tremendous amount of sand but I would like to know that it can pick up what may be present.
I stopped using my Polaris 280 last week when I realized how much it was costing me to run the booster pump for 10 hours a day. That's what it was taking to keep the water clear and fine and small particles up from bottom of pool. And it was stirring up so much stuff that I had to change out the skimmer sock twice a day due to it clogging with our microscopic dust.
So I hooked up my Tracker 4x. It is doing an amazing job and does it in 2-3 hours a day. I have gone 3 days without changing out the skimmer sock. I have an Intelliflo VF which I run on slow flow for 23/7 (saved $150 last month compared to year before but still running Polaris booster so will be saving a lot more). When I want to run the Tracker I just stop the pump, put the Tracker hose in skimmer and run the pump on manual vacuum. It is set to 120 minutes and that is usually enough.
I'm changing over my dedicated return for Polaris 280 to a vac port for Tracker and automating control valves pretty soon.
Dykes26,
If you are considering a suction side cleaner, the manufacturer told me that the Tracker model pool cleaners that they used to manufacture for Jacuzzi (out of business) are identical to the Poolvergnuegen cleaners. Inyo Pools is still selling brand new Tracker models for significantly less than the identical Poolvergnuegen models. There will be no warranty but the parts are still available. If I were to buy a suction side model, I personally would consider buying one of the Tracker models. You may want to call Poolvergnuegen and discuss the Tracker models with them.
Sorry for hijacking your thread but I felt that this was pertinent to your question.
I purchased the Tracker 4X from Inyo Pools last fall. Several of the hose sections had tiny punctures, in groups, and allowed air in. I worked on patching them with silicone stretch repair tape, but used up a bunch of very expensive rolls. So I put the Tracker up for the fall and was going to have to use the Polaris anyway because of the massive amounts of leaves beginning to fall.
Last week, when I switched over the the Tracker I still had to repair the hoses. I ran out of my silicone stretch tape so picked up some butyl repair tape at Walley's, which is less expensive.
I contacted Inyo last week. They have contacted the manufacturer, Poolvergnuegen, and they are sending me a whole new set of sectional hoses. :-D So it seems that the warranty has been honored in this case.
I've been thinking about purchasing another Tracker 4X, for parts, extra hose, etc. At the price of $239 it will certainly pay for itself when expensive parts are eventually needed.
poolneophyte said:Chem Geek,
Thanks for your response. In my conversation with Poolvergnuegen, they told me that they will be unveiling a "hybrid" cleaner at next falls trade shows which is both a suction side and a pressure side cleaner. They said that it will be the best of both worlds and that you could change the type of cleaner based upon the seasons and type of debris in the pool. I may hold off buying a cleaner until this proposed unit gets some reviews.