It should at least be marked on both ends.
Someone might find the other end and assume that it is a neutral that they can use for some reason.
*Shallow end, being shocked when grabbing railing*
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Someone might find the other end and assume that it is a neutral that they can use for some reason.
Is this the wire going to your ground rod?
Can you have the electrician break this wire and check for voltage between both ends?
Or disconnect at the ground rod and test between the rod and the wire.
Check for voltage, amperage and frequency on the scope.
Reconnect after test.
Can you have the electrician break this wire and check for voltage between both ends?
Or disconnect at the ground rod and test between the rod and the wire.
Check for voltage, amperage and frequency on the scope.
Reconnect after test.
What does this GFCI go to?
Does your PowerBlaster power monitor show you the voltage and current on both legs of the power?
If yes, is the voltage on each leg the same?
Does your PowerBlaster power monitor show you the voltage and current on both legs of the power?
If yes, is the voltage on each leg the same?
Another white wire used for power.
At least it is taped black on this side.
The other side might not be taped black, which risks someone using it as a neutral.
At least it is taped black on this side.
The other side might not be taped black, which risks someone using it as a neutral.
I agree with you, and will do this from now on.
I always measure with the deck wet, and I double check using the deck anchor for the cover.
I don't believe there is any way a hot could be hooked to a neutral and still hold. Neutrals are tied to the EGC at the panel and would instantly trip. Also it would make a direct short across the transformer which would also trip the breaker.
Of course. When I’ve seen it in the past they usually taped the last inch with electrical tape so the end was ‘black’ on both ends. This one evidentally didn’t care.
That GFCI goes out to the pump and the GFCI outlet.
This makes me want to scream because of the all inconsistencies in the panel. Multiple labels are incorrect because of all the additions over the years. I'll need to find out where this goes.
Thank you @JamesW for seeing this.
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It looks like it has a neutral. What does the neutral go to?
Most likely, it isn't a problem because it would instantly trip as was pointed out.
In any case, I automatically discount the quality of work when I see things like that.
In my opinion, a good electrician has plenty of wire in all types and colors to do the job correctly.
So this one has the pump and the GFCI outlet outside. The neutral is screwed into the one pole with the Test functionality, and then the second white under it is running to the ground bar.
General contractor BS. This is wired to a secondary HVAC unit. It has more black electrical tape going up the wire apart of the same wire run as the hot.
You are correct, the same set of troubleshooting processes needs to be followed with thorough documentation.
Can you put the pump on the breaker by itself and feed the GFCI outlet from a single pole breaker?
You really don't string GFCIs in series.
In this picture, the bottom breaker is a two-pole 230 breaker and the one above it is a single pole 115 volt breaker.
Does the wire with a red arrow pointing towards it go to the single pole breaker or the double pole breaker?
Does the double pole breaker have both poles being used or just one?
What is the power rating of the HVAC unit?
Does the wire with a red arrow pointing towards it go to the single pole breaker or the double pole breaker?
Does the double pole breaker have both poles being used or just one?
The wires look too small for a HVAC unit.
What is the power rating of the HVAC unit?
You don't normally have 120v outlets on a 240v circuit to a piece of utilization equipment. The pump circuit is sized for the motor and when tossing random outlets into the mix you no longer have control over what runs on that circuit.
That 15 amp breaker looks unused, if it is can you fish another hot and neutral, if it is all in conduit? Never mind about running new wires right now. Are there any other receptacles on that 240v pump circuit. It's just weird to do that.
Have you turned off that pump breaker and tested the receptacles for power?
This is normal IF run in romex. If in conduit then a hot can not be white taped black, it has to be a color.
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the 3/8 nut will release both the ground and the buried service wire sheath bond
the 3/8 nut will release both the ground and the buried service wire sheath bond
How is it attached ? Or is it even attached ? I’m not seeing screws (which is good). If I saw that one in the field, I’d expect to see it zip tied or taped to the electric conduit.
This entire thing looks sketchy.
You have a bunch of loose wires, dirt and corrosion.
It would be interesting to see the voltage and waveform on the scope of the power from the phone company.
You have a bunch of loose wires, dirt and corrosion.
It would be interesting to see the voltage and waveform on the scope of the power from the phone company.
I hooked it up to oscilloscope very quickly, it was intermittent voltage and frequency. Then.... It started to rain
Lol. It’s 40 year old outdoor copper. It should be Statue of Liberty green and look like wire spaghetti from all the times it’s been played with / modified. All things considered it’s not too bad. (Although certainly not ‘neat’ or showing worker pride).