Serious help needed
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I am seeing a faint dark patch in the middle of the shallow end. This is similar to the dark patch I reported on in the earlier post today. I am guessing that this is more of the dissolved liquified goop that is the culprit.
I am seeing what appears to be a "darkened patch" in the middle of the shallow end. The coloring of this patch is similar to the coloring of the area that I described earlier today, which was also in the shallow end, but was in a corner near the return. I can barely make out this patch, but it appears to be the pool bottom. My guess is that this "patch" is more of the liquified brown muck/matter that I found in the shallow end corner. If I am correct, then this "patch" corresponds to the almost exact location that contained some of the ugliest, and most dense organic matter.
One other thing that makes perfect sense. The pools' deep and intermediate areas contain the turquoise color. However, the shallow end remains mostly green. My hunch is that the areas that I (may) have discovered today contain enough foreign matter to cause the green color. Just a hunch.
In any event, I can't wait until the water clears more and I get a go ahead to vacuum.
One other thing that makes perfect sense. The pools' deep and intermediate areas contain the turquoise color. However, the shallow end remains mostly green. My hunch is that the areas that I (may) have discovered today contain enough foreign matter to cause the green color. Just a hunch.
In any event, I can't wait until the water clears more and I get a go ahead to vacuum.
I would vacuum now to get out what you can.
You will disturb some stuff but don't stress out. You can do a vac to waste if you want. You'll probably need to add a little water when you are finished.
If you vacuum today, you might wait a few days for stuff to settle so you can vacuum again.
You will disturb some stuff but don't stress out. You can do a vac to waste if you want. You'll probably need to add a little water when you are finished.
If you vacuum today, you might wait a few days for stuff to settle so you can vacuum again.
These photos were taken on July 13th. The first two show the darker area on the pool floor of the shallow end. The third photo shows the darker matter along the wall near the return. The latter was the matter that I disturbed with my leaf net, that I wrote about earlier today.
The good news here is that there is some visibility of the pool floor. Hopefully this will clear further in a couple of days to permit vacuuming to waste. In the meantime, I am not touching it. Please feel free to comment.
The good news here is that there is some visibility of the pool floor. Hopefully this will clear further in a couple of days to permit vacuuming to waste. In the meantime, I am not touching it. Please feel free to comment.
I'm going to wait a bit until I can see the bottom more clearly. I want to be able to see and then vacuum everything that is visible without risking stirring up junk, and then missing some stuff. If things progress, I would expect visual progress to be made within 36-48 hours.
As far as the corner area goes, I can see 3-4 distinct areas where junk is resting on the floor.
This evening the center spot was a bit more visible. In addtion, I was able to see a few more smaller spots adjacent to the larger spot. This is progress. I'm not going to vacuum until I have better visibility, and I certainly want Swamp woman's input that issue.
I'd start vacuuming the shallow end but move the vacuum very slowly. Move the vacuum near the dark areas & see if the debris gets pulled into the vacuum. You're getting there slowly but surely.
Good morning Richard. Today's the day of the big biz party I'm hosting so im about to be run ragged here prepping food for 72 but I just wanted to check in on your progress 
With the amount of silt you're dealing with due to that mesh cover straining those leaves for however long, I'd be inclined to keep letting it drift to the bottom before disturbing the water again. Its unsurprising to me that its collecting in drifts...that's how mine did.
(Mike, Richard is trying to let the water clear to help determine his filter function AND combat fine silt.)
So if you can stand the wait, I'd just keep keeping on a bit longer to have a clearer view for a very slow vac to waste. If you wanted to open the main drain just a wee bit more (provided it doesn't clog...and not full open, just turn the valve another inch) and then put a white sock over a return to see what it collects (just for a few mnutes), it might speed you up a bit on the filtering front and give us some useful information.
How much FC have you been losing overnight? And how much have you needed to add each day?
With the amount of silt you're dealing with due to that mesh cover straining those leaves for however long, I'd be inclined to keep letting it drift to the bottom before disturbing the water again. Its unsurprising to me that its collecting in drifts...that's how mine did.
(Mike, Richard is trying to let the water clear to help determine his filter function AND combat fine silt.)
So if you can stand the wait, I'd just keep keeping on a bit longer to have a clearer view for a very slow vac to waste. If you wanted to open the main drain just a wee bit more (provided it doesn't clog...and not full open, just turn the valve another inch) and then put a white sock over a return to see what it collects (just for a few mnutes), it might speed you up a bit on the filtering front and give us some useful information.
How much FC have you been losing overnight? And how much have you needed to add each day?
Good morning Richard. Today's the day of the big biz party I'm hosting so im about to be run ragged here prepping food for 72 but I just wanted to check in on your progress
With the amount of silt you're dealing with due to that mesh cover straining those leaves for however long, I'd be inclined to keep letting it drift to the bottom before disturbing the water again. Its unsurprising to me that its collecting in drifts...that's how mine did.
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(Mike, Richard is trying to let the water clear to help determine his filter function AND combat fine silt.)
So if you can stand the wait, I'd just keep keeping on a bit longer to have a clearer view for a very slow vac to waste. If you wanted to open the main drain just a wee bit more (provided it doesn't clog...and not full open, just turn the valve another inch) and then put a white sock over a return to see what it collects (just for a few mnutes), it might speed you up a bit on the filtering front and give us some useful information.
How much FC have you been losing overnight? And how much have you needed to add each day?
I have been adding about 1-2 gallons of 12.5 % throughout the day. It seems that I lose about 1-2.5 PPM of FC between 2 hour test intervals during the day. Less overnight. Yesterday was the first day that I could faintly see the bottom in the shallow end, and that's when I discovered these "pockets" of organic matter. As I stated, I thought they were larger solids; i.e. decayed leaves in various states of composition, but they were not. This stuff is a semi- liquified, semi-solid, dark brown matter, that when disturbed rises to the surface and dissipates like a powder. To vacuum, one would have to carefully move the head over the area slowly, lest the material be stirred up. It certainly can be done, as prior "braille" vacuuming has removed some of this.
I will take your suggestion(s), and open the main drain a bit, and test the return with a white sock. I am curious to see what the spotted areas look like this morning as well.
Thank you for helping me with this, it's much appreciated.
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My double hairnet skimmer nets are catching a tremendous amount of organic material, and they require changing 1-2X per day. The nets are filled with: "current" leaves, pine needle pins, current organic droppings from trees, and " a discoloring tan silt" that mars the nets.