Replacing Intellichlor salt cell reusing wiring

[PSCel]

I’m preparing for the inevitable end of life of my salt cell as we approach year 5 of its use. One issue I have is my cell wiring runs from the cell and underground a few feet via PVC conduit to the panel. It’s bundled with the pump wiring, so extracting the IC40 cable and running the new one back to the panel is a non starter. Judging by the availability of replacement salt cell cables, I’m guessing there’s a way to reuse mine. Can anyone shed some light on how complicated that can is to do and whether there are any parts diagrams of the cells or instruction manuals that would show how to get to the connector I see on the other end of the replacement cables? The thanks much!

 

[Jimrahbe]

PSC,

The cell and the cable are one piece..

Only and idiot installer would tie the SWCG to anything underground..

Are you sure the cable can't be removed?

The only other option would be to cut the cable and then splice the new cell into the old cable.

Keep in mind the cell uses pretty high DC current, so you'd have to use some real cable splices and not just try to twist the wires together and cover it with electrical tape..

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[ajw22]

Show us pics of the route from your SWG to your panel.

Figure out how to abandon the wire in the PVC pipe and get the new cell wire to the panel by a different route.

 

[PSCel]

I appreciate everyone’s input. My installer actually did a really nice job of allowing us to keep the sidewalk along the back of our property by popping the conduit under it. I have attached a pic (red line more or less shows the cable route), as well as a pic of the IC40 replacement cable from Pentair. The pin end obviously goes to the power center but where is the other end intended to land if not somewhere within the cell? The availability of this cable is what gives me hope but I don’t want to tear my cell open without knowing what I’m getting into.

 

[mknauss]

That cable is not from the cell to the automation box. That cable is the one inside the automation box.

The connection is potted inside the cell. You cannot do what you want to do reliably.

 

[Jimrahbe]

PSC,

That cable is an 'extension' cable.. It does not replace the cable that is attached to the cell.

The cable you have is the connection between the bottom of the EasyTouch and the Surge card (Cell power supply) when inside the EasyTouch.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[proavia]

Since the cable end attached to the cell can't be disconnected from the cell, the connector end that attached to the panel had to fit thru the conduit to begin with.

Does the wiring for the valve actuators also go thru that conduit?

Are you sure the installer didnt just remove the cracked pieces of concrete between the panel and equipment?

Post a picture from the far side of the sidewalk so we can see when all the wiring enters the conduit.

Is it even code legal to run 220v AC in the same conduit as the DC powered cell cable and possibly the valve actuator wiring?

 

[PSCel]

To clarify, the pump electrical is in its own conduit but the salt cell cable along with actuators and a cable from the pump I assume is probably the technology interface are bundled in a conduit travelling underground and popping back up at the panel as seen in the attached. I tugged on it and it’s pretty tight, would be super risky to replicate so I guess my next option is to either run a new conduit or splice the cell cables within a weatherproof box.

Since the cable end attached to the cell can't be disconnected from the cell, the connector end that attached to the panel had to fit thru the conduit to begin with.

Does the wiring for the valve actuators also go thru that conduit?

Are you sure the installer didnt just remove the cracked pieces of concrete between the panel and equipment?

Post a picture from the far side of the sidewalk so we can see when all the wiring enters the conduit.

Is it even code legal to run 220v AC in the same conduit as the DC powered cell cable and possibly the valve actuator wiring?

 

[proavia]

Ok, so separate conduits.

You will need to determine if the connector on the cable end will fit thru the conduit. If it doesn't, consider installing a larger diameter conduit for the salt cell wire/connector.

It would be better NOT to splice the cell cable.

It looks like the concrete was initially removed to run the conduits from the panel to the equipmemt pad. Thise small sectikns of concrete may need to be removed to run a new conduit.

 

[ajw22]

Is it even code legal to run 220v AC in the same conduit as the DC powered cell cable and possibly the valve actuator wiring?

The cable carries 24V - 40V from the panel to the cell, not 220V.

 

[proavia]

The cable carries 24V - 40V from the panel to the cell, not 220V.

OP initially stated the cell wiring was bundled with the pump wiring. It wasn't clear if in same conduit or separate conduits.
OP later clarified that there are separate conduits - see second set of pics.

 

[ajw22]

OP initially stated the cell wiring was bundled with the pump wiring. It wasn't clear if in same conduit or separate conduits.
OP later clarified that there are separate conduits - see second set of pics.

Too early in the morning for that reading comprehension.

 

[proavia]

Too early in the morning for that reading comprehension.

Ha - don't I know it. And I'm 3 hours earlier than you.
Where's my third cup of coffee?